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<aaabbb> yrc: those are some pretty aggressive parameters, and when also using nlmeans it's gonna be slow asf
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<ano> https://stackoverflow.com/q/33725214 why ffprobe shows the same data twice (1st program/stream, 2nd just stream) while especially selected only stream section via -show_entries stream=... ?
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<yrc> Hello! New question today :-) Now I’m done with 2001 S.O., next is Abyss (dark too, lol). It’s a DVD, and I see there is “Theatrical Version” and “Special Edition”. I remember when I authored DVDs with dvdauthor: using assembly-like instructions, I could enable extra chapters, and thus get such a setup (short/long version). Is there anyway it can be done with MKV or another container?
<Marth64[zzz]> yrc: Hi, in theory there is ordered chapters concept with MKV
<Marth64[zzz]> but I don't think anything supports it well
<Marth64[zzz]> if at all
<Marth64[zzz]> my approach has been to mux separate files, takes more space, but compatibility is good
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<yrc> Hi Marth64[zzz], ok. I feared it would be so. Still, I’ll read a bit about ordered chapters. Thank you!
<Marth64[zzz]> np, it's interesting
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<ano> yrc: https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/blob/master/DOCS/edl-mpv.rst mpv edl fmt can be used for that, 2 diff edls for 1 file included all scenes, not sure if there is some portable fmt
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<ano> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edit_decision_list hmm edl isn't mpv only and kinda portable
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<Pharmacom> Hi all, I'm looking for some support please. I am a DJ and regularly create mixes that are saved as one .mp3 file, I was recently told that I could use ffmpeg to split the mix based on a text file with the mix timings inside. Using ChatGPT (possibly my mistake) I learnt of the command ffmpeg -i input.mp3 -f concat -i list.txt -c copy output%d.mp3 however when doing this I get the error [concat @ 000002cbd5525ac0] Line 1: unknown keyword '00:00:00' Is
<Pharmacom> anyone able to point me in the right direction please?
<Pharmacom> .list
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<BtbN> That command makes zero sense
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<BtbN> you use concat to read multiple files like they're one
<BtbN> And combining that with opening a flat file as first input? Yeah, just complete nonsense.
<Pharmacom> Perks of using ChatGPT I guess :-/
<BtbN> I'm not immediately aware of a native method to split by a list of timestamps
<BtbN> pretty easy to just write a shell script that does that though, and just invoked ffmpeg multiple times
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<Pharmacom> To be fair I was going to do it through Audacity but the time it takes is significantly longer and I've 50+ mixes I'm looking to split (was hoping to create a script to do it in the background on my server)
<BtbN> splitting an mp3 file should be near instant
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<Pharmacom> The problem with auacity is you have to create labels so it knows where to split which is the time consuming part. There is no option to split based on a text document with mix timings.
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<BtbN> The segment muxer has a -segment_times options
<BtbN> you can probably just throw your list of timestamps in there, and call it a day
<BtbN> don't forget -c copy
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<Pharmacom> Will give that a try @btbn, thank you.
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<yrc> Thank you ano. But edl is not what I need: If I use that, I’ll have both version of Abyss in my MKV. What I need is instead to have all segments/cells/whatever in the MKV, along with 2 kind-of playlists that pick and play the segments associated with this or that version. This is what MKV Ordered Chapters is about.
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<yrc> Problem is, I did not manage yet to put all the pieces together…
<yrc> 1/ With beandog/dvd_info, I can get in JSON the list of titles, for each title its chapters, for each chapter its cells, and for each cell its sectors. For some reason cell 1 for title 1 and cell 1 for title 2 is not the same; e.g. for Abyss, t1c1 is spans sectors 0-12107, while t2c1 spans sectors 109-9442 (so a subset). OK, why not. But for Ordered Chapters, I need to tell the beginning timestamp of the
<yrc> chapter… So, what timestamp is sector 109? :-/
<yrc> 2/ Before I can even write the Ordered Chapters XML, I need to get and encode all the video pieces from tracks 1 and 2 into a single video. But if I encode title 1 (special edition), I might miss some pieces that are only in title 2 (theater edition); and if I encode title 2, I will miss parts that are only in title 1. So how do I get all the raw material from titles 1 & 2 (i.e. the needed sectors) so that I
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<yrc> can later refer to them in the Ordered Chapters?
<yrc> That’s where I’m stuck for now. And that’s only for DVD; I fear it will be a nightmare for blurays :-o
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<furq> yrc: dvd_info -g
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<furq> also mkvmerge can read chapters directly from dvd so maybe it can handle this for you
<furq> i think you'd need to use mkvmerge for editions anyway
<Marth64> re: chapters: do not expect either tool to be precise, your mileage may vary, the dvd headers often are wrong
<furq> bluray is actually a lot easier to deal with because they split all the nav stuff out into some ghastly java nonsense that nobody has even tried to implement
<furq> so by making it much more complex they made it simpler
<Marth64> you will have a very hard time with dvd
<Marth64> i just spent ~1 year studying it
<furq> this dvd_info deal looks pretty nice
<furq> i've been looking for something to replace tccat
<Marth64> ditto. thanks for sharing. ive been using lsdvd
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<furq> shame the progressbar tramples on ffmpeg's but i guess you can't have everything
<Marth64> progressbar eye candy is great
<Marth64> makes waiting less painful
<furq> sure but two is too many
<Marth64> it has 2? haha
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<furq> dvd_copy | ffmpeg has two
<Marth64> ahh
<Marth64> i would be careful with that implementation
<furq> probably makes sense to disable it for -o -
<Marth64> it is not complete
<Marth64> they are missing the dvd vm
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<Marth64> probably works for 80% of discs fine ho
<Marth64> tho*
<furq> i don't think i've ever encountered a disc that actually needed dvdnav
<furq> at least to get what i wanted off there
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<Marth64> they exist, sadly, i have many and they are super strange
<furq> yeah i'm sure
<Marth64> i don't know how anyone would go through that pain lol
<furq> the worst i've ever had to deal with is multiangle
<Marth64> yes i hate it now but thinking back to 1997(?) honestly kinda respectable for the time
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<Marth64> furq: thx interesting fact on bluray .. i never really put much time into it but even from looking at libbluray it just seemed so much easier
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<Marth64> i always wondered if the java was just for show
<furq> you can deal with bluray entirely with mkvtoolnix which is nice
<furq> but they won't touch dvd beyond reading chapters
<furq> probably sensible
<Marth64> yeah makes sense
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<furq> and bluray audio is just a regular bluray instead of being an entirely separate format
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<Marth64> oh wow. and it's just plain old mpeg-ts
<Marth64> i would have expected something crazy
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<Marth64> (just googling now and learning)
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<minimal> Marth64: I *think* dvd_info started as a fork of lsdvd
<Marth64> ahhh
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<Marth64> yrc: circling back to your topic
<Marth64> i did not mean to be discouraging. but truly it will be a painful journey IMO
<Marth64> with limited application support
<Marth64> and endless nights of wondering why the !#$% dvd does things the way dvd does
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<Marth64> it's all miserable and i would never go through it again
<Marth64> 4-8gb isn't worth the hell
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<Marth64> if you really want to do it though, there is still an option technically
<Marth64> i have been working on a dvd demuxer for ffmpeg ... if you merge the patch, you can in theory rip each part of title (PTT chapter) 1 at a time from the different angles
<Marth64> and then you are on your own to stitch them together
<Marth64> but this is only assuming that the dvd doesn't do angles at a cell level (again its an endless spiral)
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<Marth64> the demuxer will cover all your basis with respect to navigating the disc (as it uses dvdnav)
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