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<remiliascarlet>
SiFuh_: "Bit extreme for a virus mostly transmitted through consumption of dog poo" That's because of the permanent brain damage Bill Gaytes caused during the scamdemic. The word "virus" is now considered scarrier than a zombie trying to catch you and eat you alive.
<SiFuh_>
But remiliascarlet there are zombies everywhere
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<remiliascarlet>
I mean the Hollywood style zombies.
<remiliascarlet>
Not the real life ones.
<SiFuh_>
Nuy Hollywood zombies are based off of the real like zombies
<ukky>
It is time to install OpenBSD
<SiFuh_>
Oooohhhh
<ukky>
I had to repair CPU fan yesterday as it generated excessive noise
<SiFuh_>
Rpleaced the bearings? Changed the fan? Or just cheated with some WD40?
<ukky>
I never use WD40 to repair anything, only when I need to unlock bonded surface
<SiFuh_>
The best is bicycle chain grease that dusts attract dust
<ukky>
I unassembled fan and added some solid (automotive) grease
<SiFuh_>
It is like WD40 but nothing sticks to it.
<SiFuh_>
Ewwwwww. Was there a temperature change? Is the fan spinning slower?
<ukky>
It was just a tiny drop, like 0.25 sq.mm
<SiFuh_>
dusts attract dust/DOESN't attract dust
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Still, it is a but automitive greases is generally thicker and slower for the fans to spin. Also they can seize if the fan is powered off abruptly.
<ukky>
Long time ago I used to add generic oil (like for sewing machines), but I think it is too liquid for a fan.
<SiFuh_>
If I chose anything from the automive world, I'd choose copper grease or white silicon grease.
<SiFuh_>
Copper grease <-- This one is the god of all light weight greases. Also exceptional for battery terminals.
<SiFuh_>
Sewing machine oil also attracts lots of dust and clogs up the fans eventually
<ukky>
I did not apply a lot of grease, just tiny bit. Blades rotate freely. And starting fan noise is good.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Yes, but over time the seizing is can become an issue.
<SiFuh_>
The don't like to cool down very fast because they can solidify
<ukky>
I use generic auto grease (it is red). And I am pretty sure it will not seize the fan shaft (there is no bearings).
<SiFuh_>
Number 3?
<ukky>
No idea what type of grease, but I remember it was gneral use.
<SiFuh_>
Send us a photo when you can
<ukky>
I have to remove tube from a gun to see grease type (and I don't want to do that).
<SiFuh_>
EP grease number 3 is generally red and is used under high temperature. Sucks when it is cold.
<ukky>
Fan is already assembled and PC is ready for OpenBSD
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Cool.
<SiFuh_>
Well if you did use the grease I was thinking of. As long as the machine never shuts down, it should be fine
<SiFuh_>
Vaseline is a lower temperature grease but it also attracts dust
<ukky>
I am glad I choose NUC with optional SATA holder. Now I just can remove my NVMe and install SATA SSD for OpenBSD install.
<ukky>
I experimented with a lot of different oils/greases and found generic auto grease the best
<SiFuh_>
But there are hundreds of kinds of grease for cars and trucks ;-)
<ukky>
Though, I have white grease too, but I don't like it.
<SiFuh_>
That's usually Silicon grease. Very messy
<ukky>
Yes, I experimented with high pressure, high temperature greases. Generic is the best for household use.
<SiFuh_>
I recommend the copper grease. Just don't spill it on circuit boards because it also can conduct electricty
<SiFuh_>
You can use this grease for connectors too, it protects them from corrosion or rust.
<SiFuh_>
Fscking expensive though here
<SiFuh_>
0.25 sq.mm should be fine though. It is a miniscule amount
<ukky>
Yes, that amount even did not fill up the hole where the shaft is rotating. And the shart is about 7 mm long
<SiFuh_>
I am pretty picky about which grease and oils to use in my truck. The fsckers here try to put LSD oil in my differentials. I have to make sure it gets tunnelled into their brain that I don't want LSD I want STD.
<SiFuh_>
That's sounded weird. LSD STD hahaha
<ukky>
s shart/shaft
<SiFuh_>
I think it was plenty. Grease thins out a long long way
<ukky>
Exactly. It speads evenly after a few full rotations
<SiFuh_>
LSD can be used in all differentials. But STD is recommended for Standard Differentials and LSD can ONLY be used in Limited Slip Differentials. So LSD is the most commonly sold here. But the problem with LSD is it has a very short life span.
<ukky>
Short, like, a year?
<SiFuh_>
ukky: I wonder what temperature the shaft of the fan gets.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Around 2 years you should change it if used on a normal basis. LSD uses synthetics that break down very quickly over a short period of time.
<SiFuh_>
STD is a bit thicker and doesn't work well on Limited Slip Diffs. But you can run that for your entire life without a change but that isn't recommended. I know people whom have never changed the oil in a STD diff and their trucks just keep on going without any issues.
<ukky>
Hard to tell what temperature. The shaft seems like made of steel, and it rotated in a brass holder
<ukky>
And the whole assembly is so fcking tiny.
<ukky>
The blade span of a fan is about 30 mm
<SiFuh_>
Yeah, probably need to whip it part and quickly attach a temperature probe on it but that would be a pain in the ass
<SiFuh_>
ukky: duckduckgo says about 65 Celsius
<SiFuh_>
That's only 15C higher than a bath I take ;-)
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Today I only sanded back one of the fender flares I was painting that my wife inconsiderately destroyed. It took almost 6 hours. Tommorow I will do the other one.
<ukky>
I have some silicone grease too (for lubricating sliding gun parts). That might have worked too.
<SiFuh_>
And when I thought it was perfect after 6 hours work. I did one layer of primer and I can see my sanding job sucks.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: I have it here for super special purposes. Works well with plastic parts.
<ukky>
Sanding to remove old paint, or rust?
<SiFuh_>
New paint
<ukky>
Removing new paint (damaged)?
<SiFuh_>
It was wet when she stuffed it up. She dumped all her work shit on the table outside that had two auto parts freshly sprayed. Final coat. Each coat was applied after 30 minutes so none were full dry.
<SiFuh_>
I just don't understand why she'd even do that. The table is covered in paint and metal and rust and I had been using it for 2 days and she just decided it to be a good place for her junk.
<SiFuh_>
By the way, that table is only outside because I set it up for sanding and painting.
<SiFuh_>
I found an old flap disk I bought that fits my grinder. So tomorrow, I am going to use the grinder and take it all back to bare metal and start again. Screw sanding by hand. I hate that.
<ukky>
Did you setup a sign 'Wet paint' in multiple languages?
<SiFuh_>
I had been painting for two days. I told her it will be complete on day three. Day two is when she fucked it up
<ukky>
I used heatgun and some flat metal scraper tool to remove old paint
<SiFuh_>
ukky: True story for you. Zuan wanted to build drones and bought a soldering gun. He asked me if I knew how to solder. I said of course I know. Dad taught me in 1988 and I have been soldering regulary since. He asked me to teach him. I was shocked. "You don't know how to solder?" He said "Nope." So I sent him some youtube videos. Any way. He went about soldering with his shitty solder gun and when the
<SiFuh_>
job was finished, I had come home and seen it on the table. I was FREAKING surprised! I took a photo and sent to my friends and said "He has never soldered before in his life. CHECK THIS SHIT OUT!" Everyone was surprised too. It looked it was done by a robot in a factory. It was flawless.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: That ain't a gun dude. That's a wand/stick/iron
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Weller Soldering Irons are awesome. I have several in AU and my first one was a Weller and it died like 30 something years later. But I repaired it.
<ukky>
I have also switchable 15W/30W, but I never use it
<SiFuh_>
I think my receipt was 1994 or 1996. It died around 2016. I repaired it and it was stilling going when I last used it in 2018
<ukky>
100W is perfect for me. I could even solder 4AWG wire in a car.
<SiFuh_>
Wouldn't use that on a computer though :-P
<ukky>
Haha
<ukky>
I don't do PCBs anymore
<SiFuh_>
https://s3.amazonaws.com/i.snag.gy/1BEgr0.jpg <-- These are the two cheap Chinese shit versions I have here in Malaysia. I use the yellow one for melting plastic and the blue one for soldering
<ukky>
Mine (15W/30W) is similar to yours
<SiFuh_>
You are using a chisel tip?
<SiFuh_>
I have a soldering iron a friend gave me. He walked out of his shed and shoved into my chest and said "You do electronics. This fucking thing I don't want it anymore. It is useless to me" It's a massive soldering iron. Can melt Tin and 10mm Diametre Solder
<ukky>
On my smaller iron I have pointy tip, like yours.
<SiFuh_>
How do you find chisel tips?
<ukky>
Chisel tips are the best for non-PCB work, when you need to heat-up large surface.
<SiFuh_>
Tried them once hated them. But I was working on smaller stuff.
<SiFuh_>
And one of my irons in Australia has a super fine tip. I found it gets cold too quickly on contact. So I changed the tip to a custom homemade tip that works better
<ukky>
Chisel tips should not be used on PCB. You can lift copper traces off PCB easily.
<SiFuh_>
Actually with the exception of the soldeirng station and that huge poof my friend gave me. All my irons have custom homemade tips in Australia.
<SiFuh_>
My station came with a chisel tip. Never used it
<SiFuh_>
I only use the sized tips you see in my photo
<SiFuh_>
I usually use a copper rod and use electrolosys to coat it apart from the tip and then just tin the tip.
<ukky>
But it is hard to solder 16AWG wire (and larger) with pointy tips.
<SiFuh_>
Electrolysis
<SiFuh_>
ukky: You mean all at one time right? I usually spin the wire and coat it.
<SiFuh_>
I coat both the wires the second I strip them to stop air from screwing my my solder joint. I also heat only the wire from the bottom and put the solder on the top and let it run down.
<ukky>
Coating is different from soldering two 16AWG wires together
<SiFuh_>
Understood
<SiFuh_>
I have a friend who wants solder everywhere inside it and around it.
<SiFuh_>
Also one other thing I hate. Electrical tape. That is aweful shit. I prefer heat shrink
<ukky>
That's how I want to do it too
<SiFuh_>
When I worked on cars. My friend always wanted me to pull out his other big iron to melt the solder through the wires
<ukky>
Never use electric tape. Heatshink or some plastic tape with Zip-tie on top to hold it in place
<SiFuh_>
His iron was massive. We use to solder the main wires together that are used for battery terminals. I found it loses heat really fast on contact
<SiFuh_>
Heat shrink is the best. I even use that for fixing fishing rods.
<SiFuh_>
Cover a small metall rod with super glue (Loctite glue) insert the two pieces together. Wrap with fishing line. Coat in super glue. Slide the heat shrink up and voila.
<ukky>
Electric tape leaves massive glue residue over time, that's why it should never be used
<SiFuh_>
That is why I hate it.
<ukky>
And that's where you use a heat gun: to shrink a heat-shrink
<SiFuh_>
Also electrical tape unpeals over time from weather
<ukky>
Also, after about 30 years that glue residue becomes some shitty dust, and tape does not hold anything together.
<SiFuh_>
And when you need to remove it your hands become sticky.
<SiFuh_>
It also ruins a good solder join
<SiFuh_>
And if you twist the wires after handling electrical tape it doesn't solder well.
<ukky>
For that you need acidic flux. But after soldering, you need flux remover as it might corrode your metals
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Have two cameras and a flat screen that I plan but have never gotten around to installing for the front two tyres of the truck so I can see where my wheels are when going off road.
<SiFuh_>
Tried that several times. Won't ever touch it again. Horrible shit.
<SiFuh_>
That is why I like liquid solder for PCB's. The acidic flux is really easy to clean off. But the bottled flux version is horrible.
<ukky>
That's how I do it. Works well for me. But you need good flux remover.
<SiFuh_>
What do you use to clean old silicone-oxide from a CPU heat sink?
<SiFuh_>
Silicone compound blended with thermally conductive, fine metal oxide powders
<ukky>
I use alcohol to remove old thermal paste from CPU
<SiFuh_>
I use Vodka 160 Proof :-P
<ukky>
Mine ios isopropyl alcohol, 70%
<ukky>
s/ios/is/
<SiFuh_>
I have Isopropyl Alcohol but I save that for special stuff. For everything else including house cleaning, I use the heads from my moonshine which is over 160 proof.
<SiFuh_>
The heads are between 160 and 190 proof. It works fast and evaporates super quickly.
<ukky>
And I have one gallon of 99% isopropyl alcohol for cleaning guns
<SiFuh_>
Gallon is like 3 litres?
<ukky>
3.8L
<SiFuh_>
4.54609 Litres
<SiFuh_>
Hmm
<ukky>
No, that's UK
<SiFuh_>
Imperial sucks dude
<ukky>
Agree
<SiFuh_>
The world converted to Metric because of the US and the US went, yeah, no we will stick to barley measurements.
<ukky>
But my master vernier caliper is imperial and it is so cool
<SiFuh_>
Mine is Metric. The one downstairs in the tool box is both barley and water
<SiFuh_>
Shits me when I design something here. I give them mesurements in metric and the build it for me in imperial
<SiFuh_>
I can't understand why they use the barley measurements for construction when everything else is based on water.
<ukky>
I have other two calipers in metric, but they are not precise (0.1mm)
<SiFuh_>
I said to the wife last year. Bet when the numbers get higher than 3 digits they can't do the maths.
<SiFuh_>
I have a micrometer and two Vernier here. Only one of the Vernier is accurate. The micrometer and the other is off. So the one in the bedroom, is the good one.
<SiFuh_>
In Australia I use only a micrometre from the UK and it is perfect.
<ukky>
Micrometers are all adjustable.
<ukky>
When I bought mine (on eBay), it was off.
<SiFuh_>
The one I have here is Chinese. Also adjustable but if you tighten it too tight then the reading changes.
<ukky>
Then I bought an adjustemnt wrench and now it is right on mark
<SiFuh_>
Adjustment wrench?
<ukky>
You should learn how to measure with micrometer, you cannot overtighten it while measuring
<SiFuh_>
You mean that hooked like metal two for adjusting the micrometer?
<SiFuh_>
Like I said. My UK version from the 1950's is heaps better
<ukky>
And you need 'gage block set' to learn how to use micrometer and calibrate it.
<ukky>
You have a ratchet type micrometer
<SiFuh_>
I stopped using it and went to Vernier instead because it would give a different reading each time
<SiFuh_>
But in Australia the UK micrometer is spot on perfect. So I had never needed a Vernier Caliper
<ukky>
You just have to practice and all measurements will be perfect
<SiFuh_>
No need. I use the Vernier instead now.
<SiFuh_>
I don't trust the Chinese micrometer at all. Since the first day I got it. Cheap junk
<ukky>
Vernier calipers are (mostly) 0.1mm accurate. And your cheap chinese micrometer is 0.01mm.
<SiFuh_>
Funny that I hadn't used a Vernier Caliper since high school. But I remembered there was a second reading on it. So I youtubed it and then it all came flashing back.
<SiFuh_>
No my Cheap Chinese micrometer is not 0.01mm it is like 2mm
<SiFuh_>
It's junk
<ukky>
Haha
<SiFuh_>
As I said, I know how to use one. Been using for more than 40 years. This one is junk.
<SiFuh_>
Heh, it has both water and barley measurements :-P I didn't notice
<ukky>
Your caliper is good. I'd like to have a metric one with precision like yours
<SiFuh_>
Metric is logical. It is based on water at sea level on planet Earth. Imperial is based on barley.
<SiFuh_>
Wife thinks it strange that all my precision equipment and my tools for eletronics stay in the bedroom and everything else are stored downstairs in the tool closet.
<SiFuh_>
I use the other one so much, I have a carry case that hangs off my belt so when I go shopping, I can whip it out and measure shit before I buy.
<SiFuh_>
The tip on the one you sent is really cool.
<ukky>
I bring short caliber to the store (150mm)
<ukky>
s/caliber/caliper/
<SiFuh_>
I think that is the size of the one I have that I take too
<SiFuh_>
I also carry a circular slide rule too because I don't tend to carry a phone or a calculator.
<SiFuh_>
It does not only multiplication but cos, sin and tan as well.
<SiFuh_>
Russian KL-1
<ukky>
You have more ancient tools that me
<SiFuh_>
I like them
<SiFuh_>
And it is a dying art
<SiFuh_>
WHen I bought my first slide rule. I asked my father to teach me. He said "There was a club in school. It cost 10 USD to join the club and I didn't" So I asked my mother and sahe asked me "What the hell is it?" I then said "What kind of useless parents are you? (as a joke)" so I had to learn online.
<SiFuh_>
One day I was drinking vodka at my friend from Hungary's home. As I was pulling the vodka out he saw the slide rule. He said "You have a logarithmic calculator?" Hahah
<SiFuh_>
In Australia almost all of my tools are from 1950's or early. Former US Military, German Military and Soviet (Military) tech.
<SiFuh_>
That pocket watch of mine is Soviet. My expresso maker is Soviet and my circular slide rules are Soviet. Awesome technology.
<ukky>
Year, military tools made to last centuries
<SiFuh_>
One day my father ran downstairs and shook my hammock to wake me up. I looked at him and said "What?" he said "I think you have been called to join the US military" I asked "Why, would they do that?" "You got a package from Washington Civil Defence" "Dad? What name is on the package?" He said "Lin Kuei" I replied "Well it's probably my geiger counter then"
<ukky>
I make pour-over coffee
<SiFuh_>
Later before work, I opened it, and it was. Then I pulled out the manual. My father got up, took at a look at it and said "Hey, I know how to use this thing" Then I put the manual down and he showed me. He's former US Navy. Can't remember what he had for breakfast but can remember how to use a geigner counter from the 60's
<SiFuh_>
It works the same as a moonshine distiller with a Gin basket (You put the coffee in that part). Heats the water, the steam passes through the coffee and drips out.
<SiFuh_>
Takes less than 5 minutes because it is so small.
<SiFuh_>
I usually use it as a base then add 3 in 1 mix on top and hot water.
<SiFuh_>
Wife says it is the best coffee she ever drank but she is afraid to use it incase it explodes.
<ukky>
I have never seen such design before. But I'm sure my coffe would be better D
<SiFuh_>
Electric version is much slower. Almost 20 minutes. But a fire/hotplate version can do in less than 5 minutes
<ukky>
These days espresso machines are so fscking expensive.
<SiFuh_>
No idea. I prefer the soviet method because it just goes forever and easy to repair
<SiFuh_>
ukky: It was a British off road guy that makes youtube videos where I saw it being used for the first time in my life. I thought to myself. I like that, I want that. My Hungarian friend said "I almost blew myself up several times using that when I went cave exploring" so I bought one.
<ukky>
For my coffe I need manual grinder, filter holder, filter, carafe, hot water, and coffee. And scales to measure coffee
<SiFuh_>
We grind before we go camping. No need for a filter for it.
<SiFuh_>
My wife has a machine downstairs she uses. It takes forever it to grind it, then heat up the water, filter it and then it spends 6 minutes I think cleaning itself
<ukky>
I do not like coffee grains in cup of coffee
<SiFuh_>
The soviet one passes hot steam through it and then it distills out of the device. So you don't need a filter.
<ukky>
Electic grinder is bad. Unless it costs $1000 and is well made.
<SiFuh_>
Hers is basically a blender
<SiFuh_>
It has rotating blades. I don't like her machine
<ukky>
Blender-type are the worst grinders
<SiFuh_>
I have a miller for crushing barley. But she doesn't try it.
<SiFuh_>
It uses two rollers and I connect a power drill to it because I am lazy like Tim the Tool Man. I need power! More power!
<ukky>
It does not grind consistently. Some coffe will be powder, some pices will remain like huge rocks.
<SiFuh_>
Her's actually does a really good job though. But yes some powder
<SiFuh_>
With the soviet machine you don't need to worry at all about chunks or powder getting into your cup. It's too heavy. Steam cooling down is what you end up with.
<ukky>
But you will make better espresso if your coffe will be fine-ground
<SiFuh_>
Well, if you have way to grind, then you should checkout the Soviet expresso maker.
<SiFuh_>
The insert recycled the water so it penetrates deep within the crushed beans.
<ukky>
No espresso for me, just regular coffee
<SiFuh_>
There is a tray to stop it the grounds from going to the bottom of the Soviet Expresso machine and a plate to stop it from being forced up into the spout.
<SiFuh_>
They have Nyugen Coffee. You put the crushed beans into the stainless steel thing. You wet it a little. Then boil water. Pour water into it. And it slowly drips into the cup. Takes about 7 minutes.
<SiFuh_>
It is the one I mostly use at home.
<SiFuh_>
They also use the yolk of an egg when it is breakfast coffee.
<ukky>
I am too stubborn to try something new, when I already have what I like.
<ukky>
If you see no difference, you should not buy it
<SiFuh_>
I can't taste like other humans
<SiFuh_>
Most food tastes like rice to me. So I always pump my food with vinegar and fish sauce and chilli
<SiFuh_>
ukky: That have a coffee here that is very expensive. They feed it to a Civet and when it shits it out they drink it
<SiFuh_>
Kopi luwak
<ukky>
You should buy coffee from small shops that roast coffee beans themselves
<SiFuh_>
Civet coffee, also known as Kopi Luwak, is made from coffee beans that have been eaten and partially digested by the Asian palm civet. The beans are collected from the civet's feces, cleaned, and then roasted, resulting in a unique and often expensive coffee with a distinct flavor profile.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: My wife does. I see no difference in any of that.
<SiFuh_>
If I wake up and open a beer, I ain't drinking coffee. :-P That's how it goes for me.
<ukky>
Then try from different roasters until you find good shop
<SiFuh_>
I can't taste like you guys
<SiFuh_>
I was born with almost no sense of smell and taste
<SiFuh_>
I cannot even smell smoke or Amonia
<SiFuh_>
Ammonia
<SiFuh_>
ukky: In Australia I was pointing a red laser pointer at a friend. The police saw and came over to talk to me. They asked me why I had this. I said "I can't smell". He looked at me like I was an idiot. I said "If a room fills with smoke, I can see it with a laser pointer but my nose doesn't notice it" He laughed
<ukky>
That's bad, but not that bad. We all have some deficiencies. I cannot stand direct sunlight for long.
<SiFuh_>
I love sunlight even if burns the shit out of me.
<ukky>
I would loose my skin
<SiFuh_>
Last time I was sunburned I was here talking to zorz. They say use cold water to stop the dreaded itch. I know that doesn't work. So I used hot water straight from the shower. That solved it very fast.
<ukky>
Ouch
<SiFuh_>
Sunscreen is the enemy though.
<ukky>
Yeah, I know, especially SPF60
<SiFuh_>
Fuck you Baz Luhrmann
<SiFuh_>
I don't use any of that corporate or commerical shit. It blocks Vitamin D synthesis and just ruins your skin.
<ukky>
SiFuh_: Instead of a set, you can find a single gauge block to calibrate your micrometers, like this: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/276497960589
<SiFuh_>
I told you. It is cheap Chinese junk.
<SiFuh_>
You can't calibrate it because even if you did, it just records inaccurate readings each time you use it
<ukky>
Even the best micrometer would require calibration once in a while
<SiFuh_>
Dude it isn't the best
<SiFuh_>
If I used that block, ever time I unwind it and wind it back up the reading will be off.
<ukky>
Try friction micrometer instead of ratchet
<SiFuh_>
I have a Vernier Caliper. I don't need it anymore
<SiFuh_>
Usually if something is designed to do something but doesn't I will throw it at a wall. It is lucky it is in storage because I would have smashed the shit out of it
<ukky>
Micrometers are 10 times more accurate than (mechanical) vernier caliper
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<SiFuh_>
Chkdsk you zorzy
<SiFuh_>
Not this one ukky
<ukky>
Throw that away if you don't like it, but still, micrometers have like 0.002mm accuracy, compared to 0.02mm for vernier calipers
<zorz>
?
<SiFuh_>
¿
<ukky>
I bought mine used and it was quite cheap
<zorz>
:-)
<SiFuh_>
ukky: It is why it is in storage. It's useless. I might be able steel parts off of it one day for another project.
<SiFuh_>
I am not a pack rat but I have shit tonnes of stuff that are junk that so called normal people would throw out. I butcher parts and stuff from them for other things