<remiliascarlet>
uwumeowmeownyaa: Linux can be utilized without GNU. Alpine Linux is the prime example of that.
<remiliascarlet>
It's even possible to replace all GNU tools with custom versions in CRUX. I tried that before, only for much of the Bash or Shell scripts to no longer function properly, because they rely on GNU-specific flags.
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<SiFuh_>
remiliascarlet: Asked my Hindu friend if he wants to join me camping on the weekend. He said he can't because has prayers to do this month. I said that there are many Hindu temples near that he can pray at. He said "No, no, no, can't. This is house prayer. I must pray at peoples homes"
<SiFuh_>
HAHAHAHAH Weekend in Taipei (2024). Best line "Who are you people? I mean, you're stealing cars and he's punching everyone? Are you really my parents?"
<farkuhar>
ppetrov^: I recently discovered the existence of retro WinXP themes for XFCE. Here's a particularly good example, https://github.com/rozniak/xfce-winxp-tc (scroll down for the screenshots).
<SiFuh_>
farkuhar: ppetrov^: Did you see I coloured in the rat?
<SiFuh_>
My old Russian watch is dying with the greenstrap. So replaced it with a new Russian watch, unfortunately it came with a metal wrist band. But it should be fine https://s3.amazonaws.com/i.snag.gy/LhsSCa.jpg
<SiFuh_>
ppetrov^ should be able to read that :-P Shame the outside dial doesn't rotate as the minutes go by.
<SiFuh_>
Would be nice if Иркутск +8 would follow the the hour hand so you could glance at it and see the time in Moscow or Denver.
<ukky>
SiFuh_: Bring your dying watch to watchmaker for cleaning and lubrication
<SiFuh_>
ukky: The Watchmaker might steal some super powers from another Hero and kill me.
<ukky>
Just put a dark spell on it and you should be safe
<SiFuh_>
ukky: I wasn't going to waste my time on it because it was a cheaper model.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: I have a pocket watch from the Soviet era. I maintain it myself. Took me a while to adjust it to get it to keep accurate time.
<ukky>
SiFuh_: My favorite design is from 60's and 70's. I don't like bells and whistles on the watch.
<SiFuh_>
Like my old Casio Fish En Time? Which I still have. I paid 39.99 USD in L.A. for it. On Ebay they are selling them for 550 USD.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: I'd really like to find an original Casio DW-240.
<ukky>
As for pocket watch, not my style.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Goes with my three piece suit.
<ukky>
Here you go. I do not have a suit. That's why I do not have a pocket watch.
<SiFuh_>
Heh
<SiFuh_>
ukky: I always fly in a suit. So even though Japan in January will be a holiday, I will still be boarding the aircraft in a suit.
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<ukky>
T-shirt and sweat pants for me, as I don't care how I look, I prefer comfort over looks.
<SiFuh_>
I grew up in the 70s and 80s with parents that told me to always wear long pants and a collared shirt tucked in with a belt, when going out. I still do that even to this day.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: I was in the airport oneday in a long line. This guy walks over to me and asks me to use the diplomat lane. He chose me out of everyone else because of my attire. When I landed in Sydney, Australia. The immigration was saying - mate.. mate.. mate.. All the time. I hate that to be honest. "You go over there mate." "Mate? Take line four mate". Then he comes up to me "Excuse me sir, line five
<SiFuh_>
please"
<SiFuh_>
When I lived in the former Soviet countries, the Russian women would dress up nice, lots of make up. Then empty the garbage and come back home. :-P
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Digital should always be square. And yeah, looks awesome
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Those new watches like the Rangeman are quite cool, but they rely on remote syncing to specialised towers to update the time and date but we don't have those towers here.
<ukky>
I own Timex digital, but its band is broken so I do not wear it. It's plastic.
<ukky>
Oh, I had some watch that required sunlight, gave them away, as I don't get much direct sunlight.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: When the wife looks she gets a head ache trying to read the time. I told her Top is 0/24 bottom is 12 and left and right are 18:00 and 06:00
<ukky>
Now I have notices. 24h
<ukky>
s/es/ed/
<SiFuh_>
Minutes are the same. But the hour hand moves slower.
<ukky>
I prefer 12h analog, manual wind only, w/o any complication
<SiFuh_>
Not a fan of 12h
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Thai is worse. The day is broken up into 6 hours ;-)
<ukky>
that's fscked up
<SiFuh_>
So 5 can mean 5 am, 11 am, 5 pm and 11 pm.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Based on the sound of the Buddhist bell toll.
<ukky>
It's fscked up system, like Radix 50 on DEC PDP-11
<SiFuh_>
Well it works for them ukky. I understand it when they say it to me. But I never say it like that to them.
<ukky>
So, you say to them: We meet at four hundred twenty to go to the jungle. Right?
<SiFuh_>
ukky: for 4 am I just say four. For 4 pm I just say 16 hundred
<SiFuh_>
zorz: ukky: Something funny just now. Wife asks me to move her car and the cousins car to slip them into our garage which is kind of a tight fit. She comes out and sees me parking her car. When I got out, she says "Something is wrong. Like weird. But I don't know what it is" I said "You mean that I am parking your car whilst I am sitting in the passenger seat?" Her eyes light up. "Huh, how? What? Yes!"
<SiFuh_>
She says "I didn't realise it. You were driving in, head out the window making sure nothing gets damaged. Didn't realise you were driving from the other side of the car."
<ukky>
Don't you have a medium between driver and the passanger?
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Yes
<SiFuh_>
Centre Console and a Hand brake.
<SiFuh_>
But whether it is a manual or auto. I can still drive it with one foot.
<ukky>
Ha, I started typing 'Is your left leg that long?'
<SiFuh_>
ukky: When I was a Taxi driver. I use to open the driver's window and stand up. Sit on the door. Left hand over the roof of the taxi. Head higher than the roof. Then do the reversing with right hand on the steering wheel.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Modern cars are quite compact these days.
<ukky>
SiFuh_: In what way /altroot is being used on OpenBSD?
<SiFuh_>
ukky: It's for backup the root partition. So you add an entry to fstab and it is not automounted on boot. During the night the CRON jobs will jeck if the entry exists. Then mount altroot. Backup the root partition and then umount it. It doesn't do /usr/ /usr/local /usr/X11R6 or anything like that. Just your main root partition.
<SiFuh_>
jeck/check
<SiFuh_>
Very cool feature if you are using OpenBSD as a server
<ukky>
So, fstab entry for /altroot is exactly like for /, but with 'noauto' option?
<ukky>
NetBSD has no entry for /altroot. Are you supposed to add it manually? Does OpenBSD installer adds /altroot to fstab?
<SiFuh_>
Manually
<ukky>
Oh
<SiFuh_>
I had a server fail and was able to boot from /altroot from the boot prompt like using a rescue disk. But was happy knowing, I had a clone of everything
<SiFuh_>
Like having a previous state (instance) that can replace the root with an alternative root in emergency. But it gets backed up daily.
<ukky>
Does /altroot feature come from original BSD?
<SiFuh_>
Not sure. I only became curious of this feature back in the early 4.X days even though I had been using OpenBSD since the 3.X days.
<ukky>
NetBSD also has /rescue. This seems like missing in OpenBSD.
<SiFuh_>
Maybe it is the same thing?
<ukky>
All files in /rescue have size 10546032 bytes. That's strange.
<SiFuh_>
In OpenBSD we have a rescue disk. It is called /bsd.rd So when you are about to boot you type set image bsd.rd and it will boot that instead of bsd (kernel)
<SiFuh_>
bsd.rd is also the same as the installer. So you can download the latest bsd.rd and boot from it from your root partition and upgrade over network
<ukky>
rsb.rd is a kernel with ramfs built-in. That's different
<SiFuh_>
But these days we have sysupgrade which downloads all the main packages for the install on next boot.
<ukky>
s/rsb\.rd/bsd.rd/
<SiFuh_>
Yes it is a ram disk
<SiFuh_>
Lerning the basic boot prompt commands is a must for OpenBSD system adminstrators. It makes life so much easier
<SiFuh_>
Just type 'set' and hit enter at the boot prompt if I remember correctly and it will show you what you can change. Like kernel, root disk and other stuff. Very minimal.
<SiFuh_>
All OpenBSD installs have /bsd /bsd.rd and if you upgrade or modify your kernel /obsd (old Bbsd)
<SiFuh_>
Bbsd/bsd
<ukky>
What daemon responds to kernel events in OpenBSD (like eudev/udev in Crux)?
<ukky>
hotplugd?
<SiFuh_>
You can also edit the kernel itself during boot prompt and if you like them then edit the binary whilst the system is running and changes will take effect next boot.
<SiFuh_>
Hotplugd. I use it for when I plug in or remove any USB device it locks my screen so you need a password to continue. I also use it for a bluetooth dongle that switches the audio from speakers to bluetooth when I plug in and when I remove switches them back to speaker.
<SiFuh_>
Also have yubikey configure to do that too.
<SiFuh_>
If I plug in the yubikey. The screen locks. I type password in to continue. Then it launches a program that access the password database. Press the yubikey to unlock it then I have access to passwords I need.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: You can use it for automount drives too. But I don't use it for that. I prefer user created scripts where I can manually do that.
<SiFuh_>
'doas MUCORMYCOSIS.sh -m' and 'doas MUCORMYCOSIS.sh -u' for mounting my media driver.
<ukky>
Auto-mounting is for lazy people.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Yeah. Not sure if automounting works with encrypted drives though. My drives are all encrypted
<ukky>
If you place your decryption key in /root/keys on the encrypted root partition, then you can implement auto-decryption.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: No idea. Never tried. I still type in the passwords manually.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: My home partition is on a seperate NVME disk so I have to launch a script that asks for password 3 times before it continues booting whether or not the password was correct.
<ukky>
I only type password for encrypted root partition. All other encrypted hard drives are auto-decrypted.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: Not a feature I want to be honest. If FBI/CIA get my drive, then they have to crack the first password. Then after they have to crack the second. So good luck to them.
<ukky>
But my encrypted USB has only manual password, thus it cannot be auto-decrypted
<SiFuh_>
They might be able to do it with Scopolamine though :-P
<farkuhar>
On CRUX my only custom udev rule is triggered by plugging in a USB headset or USB speakers. The side-effect is to overwrite /var/lib/sndio/server.default, which is sourced by various wrapper scripts to set AUDIODEVICE before launching the actual program. Other than that, I hardly use any udev rules.
<SiFuh_>
farkuhar: Not a fan of how Linux does stuff though. wpa_supplicant is one.
<SiFuh_>
In OpenBSD I can use ifconfig to scan for Wi-Fi networks and log into them.
<ukky>
SiFuh_: My encryption is only against simple robbery. If a guy like you steals my gear, then I am pretty fscked up.
<SiFuh_>
ukky: I'd call zorz and ask him to play with it. He seems to have gotten a small passion for cracking stuff.
<ukky>
I think the idea to keep udev always loaded in Linux is wrong. And udev takes 5-10 MiB of RAM while loaded.
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<SiFuh_>
ukky_: remiliascarlet: Something I always keep a watch out for. Donkey Kong Game and Watch on Ebay.
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<ukky>
SiFuh_: Are you waiting for price drop below $100US?
<SiFuh_>
ukky: No, I am waiting for one without a broken clip, missing or damaged battery cover, nice LCD display and limited scratches.
<SiFuh_>
Stupid me, threw out mine accidentally in Australia before i moved to Kyrgyzstan. I was so mad when I came back and realised what I had done.
<SiFuh_>
zorz: Do you know what is worse? I live not only in a third world country but in a jungle town that floods often. :-P
<ukky>
SiFuh_: Lucky you. I only have my old i386 (maybe i486)
<zorz>
ooo yes... you had floods
<SiFuh_>
ukky: I still have my Toshiba Tecra 510 CDT laptop with OpenBSD 3.4 on it ;-)
<SiFuh_>
zorz: If I go camping this weekend, I will be alone because the KKM (CDC) here who usually camp with me are on red alert for Leptospirosis due to flooding.
<SiFuh_>
One of the guys I camp with was responsible for force injections of the Covid mRNA shit. He said he felt so guilty doing it. I said luckily he didn't try that shit at my home, because we'd no longer camp together.
<zorz>
leptospirosis?
<zorz>
fuck this is bad!
<SiFuh_>
Nah, they just exagerate
<SiFuh_>
I drink rain water when I go jungle. You can catch that from rain water if it washes through the poo on leaves from other animals.
<SiFuh_>
We get small outbreaks of it here during flood season.
<SiFuh_>
Just boil the water if you collect it from your roof. Not freaking hard.
<SiFuh_>
Roof water is gross though. So much garbage in it that needs to be filtered to make the water clear. Takes way to long.
<SiFuh_>
By the way, when I say 'force' I meant it. They had police and body guards holding people down that refused to take it. He says he remembers the screams and the fights and the violence.
<SiFuh_>
The Health Minister said that no one has the right to refuse it and gave KKM the green light to violently force it
<ukky>
fast.com vs www.speedtest.net gives me different results for my ISP
<SiFuh_>
And even if it was, there are many waiting on judgement. If the judgement is erased, he will be assassinated within 5 years for certain. Because they won't wait for a failed justice system.
<zorz>
you know after Trumps victory the police or feds raid in the appartment of polymarkets founder and seized the computers.
<SiFuh_>
To be fair, I don't care about such trivial matters
<SiFuh_>
The majority of the world lives in a state of childishness. Just watch politics. They need Kindegarten cop to shout at them.
<SiFuh_>
I prefer being able to do what I want and no one fucks with me. Simple. As long as I don't fuck with anyone else
<SiFuh_>
The NEWS which I watch daily and the bureaucracy and the political show is just entertainment and not reality
<SiFuh_>
The wife asks me "If you don't believe the news then why watch it?" I replied "Need to see what frame of mind the children are in"
<SiFuh_>
zorz: Today was funny. I recieved a photo on my computer from the wife asking me if I can fix it. It was a broken clothes line. Today I was doing carpentry outside. I heard a huge argument in the house next door. Her parents were screaming abuse at each other. Whilst sanding away... I heard "Uncle! Hello! Hello!" It is her mother. She wants me to fix the clothes line. I knew that this was what they
<SiFuh_>
father and mother were arguing about.
<SiFuh_>
I get up and look at it and said "No! It is broken." The nephew translated but the mother expects miracles. I said "Let me think a little. I have ideas" Then he translated that and the mother agreed. So I did some mods and shit and fixed it for the morons. Then the sister (Aunt) asked her son (The nephew) if he translated my words correctly. He said he is not sure but thinks so. Then the sister was
<SiFuh_>
yelling at her son because he didn't learn from me.
<SiFuh_>
So I walked away. Hahahahaha.
<SiFuh_>
Fscking Chinese they only now how to shout when talking or argue.
<farkuhar>
SiFuh_ is using "children" to disparage people with different viewing habits? Meanwhile, Hans Otto Storm "refus[ed] to treat the eolithic mindset as ... merely a phase for primitive societies or toddlers. ... It's a fundamental part of human experience that endures even in modernity." https://www.bostonreview.net/forum/the-ai-we-deserve/
<zorz>
farkuhar: in voidlinux they kicked Juan and you have Beerman:P
<zorz>
heh
<SiFuh_>
farkuhar: If some cunt says you have no rights, and then people follow with full violent force to drag people to the floor and force inject them during a disease with no mortality rate compared to... let's say TB. Then yes. They are fucking children.
<SiFuh_>
zorz: He wasn't kicked
<SiFuh_>
He left
<zorz>
SiFuh_: he was drunk!
<zorz>
:P
<SiFuh_>
Must be a NetBSD thing. Theo left because of those morons. Then a moron creates void and leaves because of the Linux fucktards
<zorz>
reminds you something?
<SiFuh_>
No
<zorz>
heh
<zorz>
why moron man,, xbps is cool
<SiFuh_>
Moron = NetBSD guys
<SiFuh_>
And I liked void under Juan and his work
<zorz>
after Juan left they introduce again the openssl instead of libresll ?
<SiFuh_>
zorz: Don't forget void linux in IRC is the only channel where I was abused for helping someone out of the box and so I left calling them a channel full of wankers
<zorz>
hahahaha
<SiFuh_>
True story
<zorz>
yes yes you cants
<SiFuh_>
The guy cleaned his keyboard and it stopped working. I then went down the hardware path saying he probably wet it and he did. So I asked him to try another keyboard and it worked.
<zorz>
fuckkkk with what he cleaned the keyboard? with kurcher?
<zorz>
hahahaha
<SiFuh_>
But the void fags were telling me to shut up because I was talking shit and wasting everyones time. But after the guy realised that his keyboard was fucked after washing it. The void fags were still trying to help him like they never read anything that actually transpired.
<zorz>
fags or trans?
<SiFuh_>
I have the logs if you want
<zorz>
because leah was christian
<SiFuh_>
Logs are on the external.
<zorz>
no need for logs... no time now
<zorz>
i am working in python of downloading in a nice proper manned data of crypto from binance. its free and are acurate
<zorz>
manned=manner
<SiFuh_>
Everything you read now is going to log dude.
<zorz>
ok whats the problem?
<SiFuh_>
farkuhar: Aren't you the one that thought global warming was a real thing?
<zorz>
this whitequark faggot
<SiFuh_>
zorz: No I log everything
<zorz>
iiiiiii you are worst than whitequark? you log pre liberachat?
<SiFuh_>
farkuhar: When they flipped from CO to CO2 was when I realised it was all a Carbon Tax scam.
<zorz>
at the end people will pay tax on oxygen they breath
<SiFuh_>
zorz: I have logs from crux on openprojects before freenode dude
<zorz>
hahahhaa
<zorz>
SiFuh_: you are maniac:P
<SiFuh_>
zorz: Worse, they will pay tax for existing and be ashamed for existing.
<zorz>
first thing i download was the 6 episodes of senna
<SiFuh_>
zorz: How about The Day of the Jackal?
<SiFuh_>
lavaball recommends it.
<zorz>
i dont know let me search it
<SiFuh_>
zorz: Next week is season finale
<zorz>
looks intersting
<SiFuh_>
It is
<zorz>
how is lavaball still carries the same brain?
<SiFuh_>
He's okay in private
<SiFuh_>
On channel it is like a heard of buffalos in a China shop
<zorz>
tell him to sent private queries to remiliascarlet
<zorz>
:P
<SiFuh_>
NO!
<zorz>
hahaha
<zorz>
remi where are you my love
<zorz>
ooo my god
<SiFuh_>
In Australia German are called Jerry, Greek are called Wog, Korean are called Gook and Japanese are called Jap
<SiFuh_>
Jap seems to be the least offensive since they took the first three letters from Japan/Japanese
<zorz>
S. Korea's First lady IQ how?
<SiFuh_>
-
<zorz>
potato
<SiFuh_>
Most Asians have very low IQ dude
<SiFuh_>
Culture (cult) does that to people
<SiFuh_>
Just look at the leftards in the US
<zorz>
truth
<SiFuh_>
Most of my Asian friends have very high IQs
<zorz>
not everybody the same
<zorz>
CoApp successfuly installed under '~/.local/share/vdhcoapp'.
<zorz>
To uninstall, run '~/.local/share/vdhcoapp/vdhcoapp uninstall' and remove '~/.local/share/vdhcoapp'.
<zorz>
Re-run that script to update the coapp.
<SiFuh_>
In Malaysia there are a few but the cult of money inhibits the progression of thought.
<zorz>
fuck wrong paste
<zorz>
7 episodes total the day of the jackaL?
<SiFuh_>
9
<SiFuh_>
Next wee is 10 and finale
<zorz>
i found 6 in greece... ok lets see first these ones.
<SiFuh_>
I tell you another funny story zorz
<SiFuh_>
I want to go camping this weekend. The wife says no. Then says I can take her car. I then asked when is the trip to KL she said next weekend. I replied that I will be back before then. Bahahahaha should have seen her face. Because if I go, I go not for a single night, I might be gone for a week.
<SiFuh_>
So if I am not online tonight (Friday) chances are I won't be back until Monday 11 days from then.
<zorz>
haha
<zorz>
enjoy man!
<SiFuh_>
She is forgetting something
<zorz>
anyway going to bed.... tomorrow
<SiFuh_>
The jungle women love me.
<zorz>
no need to know!
<zorz>
the less she knows the better it is.
<SiFuh_>
I will never cheat
<SiFuh_>
I have honor dude
<SiFuh_>
zorz: In February I want an old girlfriend to come visit. I already told the wife
<zorz>
wanna suicide?
<SiFuh_>
Her old boyfriend betrayed her and cheated on her. She has so much hatred for him. She doesn't understand how even my old girlfriends cheat or not, I still have a friendship with
<SiFuh_>
I don't understand how you can love or care for someone then cut off all ties and hate them.
<SiFuh_>
I have even been the best man for many former girlfriends weddings when the father is gone or passed away.
<SiFuh_>
Not best man sorry* Man who gives away the bride.
<zorz>
everyone is different
<SiFuh_>
Hatred is an evil thing though
<SiFuh_>
lavaball is an ass, but I doubt remiliascarlet or I have hatred for him.
<SiFuh_>
She blocked him for her reasons. But I think that was more towards he is annoying her and creeping her out than anything else.
<SiFuh_>
But I very much doubt she hates him.
<zorz>
anyway... got to go... later
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