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<remiliascarlet>
uwumeowmeownyaa: Doxxing is legal if the information comes from whatever somebody published online themselves, which is what a dox really means anyway.
<SiFuh>
zorz: You were named after George Washington. He was born in 1732 and you were born in 1978.
<SiFuh>
It's a joke, a play on the meaning of the word 'after' in English
<SiFuh>
On 27 March 2021,Budimir Šobat (Croatia) broke the record for the longest time breath held voluntarily (male) with a staggering time of 24 minutes 37.36 seconds.
<zorz>
underneeth water?
<SiFuh>
zorz: I am watching the Freediver (2024) documentary
<SiFuh>
I am lucky if I can get 5 metres down these guys are doing over a 130 metres
<zorz>
this is crazy....
<zorz>
maximum live in years expectancy?
<zorz>
50-60?
<SiFuh>
Huh?
<zorz>
most of divers have heart problems when they get older
<SiFuh>
Only because they got mRNA injections
<zorz>
hahahaha
<zorz>
no man its truth... pilots aswell
<SiFuh>
Really? Because I show you shit that is absolute nonsense but people think it is true
<SiFuh>
Problem with pilots would probably be ionizing radiation
<SiFuh>
But you forgot the flight attendants who also walk around in that flying fart tube
<farkuhar>
zorz: "in void other people do it for you" <- Most users could say the same about CRUX, with all the ports beerman takes responsibility for. I fail to see the contrast you were trying to draw here.
<farkuhar>
zorz: unless you meant that void has an official infrastructure for distributing binary packages, whereas CRUX only serves up a small subset of binary packages on the (semi-official) updated ISO.
<SiFuh>
farkuhar: Not sure if that is entirely correct since pretty much most of the work is done by others and he just manipulates them for CRUX.
<SiFuh>
It's quite well known that CRUX port developers get most of their stuff from Arch Linux, BLFS, LFS, Gentoo, Alpine to name a few.
<SiFuh>
Nothing wrong with that though. Why re-invent the wheel?
<farkuhar>
I would definitely classify it as "other people" doing the work for you, when you start a compilation job from the source tarball and the Pkgfile. It's not as if you're personally reading the source code and transforming it into machine instructions yourself; you let the compiler (written by somebody else) do the transformation (on a chip built by somebody else).
<SiFuh>
Heh
<farkuhar>
Kudos to SiFuh for the hilarious parody of uwumeowmeownyaa: "... url also known as a link, that I sent also known as posting, of those images also known as photos ..."
<farkuhar>
Next time, find a way to work in "... doxxing also known as ..."
<SiFuh>
I was adapting to his style of speech so he can understand me better
<farkuhar>
His "style of speech", as it were, only emerged after we started complaining about his pedantic insertion of "GNU/Linux" into every distro name. If nobody had complained about it, he probably wouldn't have resorted to such circumlocutions (meant to reconcile this channel's preference for simple naming, and his own inner demons inspired by love of RMS).
<SiFuh>
19:38:11 [uwumeowmeow> Hi! I'm going to install Crux (this is not a threat).
<SiFuh>
23:11:25 [uwumeowm`> I installed Crux GNU/Linux using BIOS Qemu firmware, and apparently I need UEFI one... I'll try installing Crux GNU/Linux tomorrow :-)
<SiFuh>
19:08:48 [uwumeowmeownya> Linux firmware signature mismatch... Can't update my CRUX GNU/Linux system.
<SiFuh>
21:29:13 [uwumeowmeownyaa> Is CRUX GNU/Linux or Alpine Linux better for setting up a local development server residing in a virtual machine? CRUX GNU/Linux seems to be less buggy, but Alpine Linux has more packages...
<SiFuh>
"allows me to customize my desktop the exact way I fancy"... I saw that desktop, I don't fancy that at all... eww
<farkuhar>
SiFuh: By "style of speech" I thought you were referring to his recent habit of appending "also known as CRUX". That's the mannerism you parodied so convincingly with "... url also known as a link, ..."
<farkuhar>
Appending the "GNU/Linux" everywhere, meanwhile, was obviously a habit he had formed long before arriving in this channel. But if this channel hadn't made such a fuss over that habit, maybe he wouldn't have doubled down by appending "also known as CRUX".
<SiFuh>
Yes
<SiFuh>
But if you read back through the logs, he did it to himself.
<SiFuh>
It wasn't provoked by us
<zorz>
GNU/farkuhar 'lo
<zorz>
farkuhar: yes binary ready to go, from german servers.
<farkuhar>
zorz: Do the void packagers enforce any post-build cleanup of $PKG/usr/share/info, or do they install all the GNU documentation where the GNU project expects to find it?
<zorz>
no idea man
<zorz>
let me see
<farkuhar>
CRUX retains only the man-pages for offline documentation, but some of the man-pages are insufficient when the accompanying info pages are gone. Case in point: tsort(1) talks about "the partial ordering in FILE" but we aren't given any clue about what format is required for FILE.
<zorz>
[zorz@vox ~]$ ls /usr/share/info > info.txt
<farkuhar>
If you follow the URL at the bottom of tsort(1) you can read the info pages online, and there you'll learn that each line of input to tsort(1) is a space-separated list of strings, whose first element must come before all the other elements in a total ordering. Why couldn't they add this detail to the man-page itself, rather than sequestering it under /usr/share/info where CRUX maintainers will zap it into nonexistence?
<zorz>
farkuhar: now you understand why they call it GNU
<zorz>
hahaha
<farkuhar>
uwumeowmeownyaa might say that the GNU project came before CRUX, so they have no obligation to anticipate the idiosyncratic distro policy laid down by Per and successors, regarding "junk files" and disallowed directories.
<zorz>
ban him! :-D
<zorz>
farkuhar: dont misunderstand me i strongly suggest crux. but in my case such i like runit, having ready kernels, dracut, and so far the only program that i build is pnscan a scanner. its a matter i dont have time.
<zorz>
hahaha youtube tv price increase INFLATION!
<farkuhar>
tsort(1) could just as easily have been written to expect Makefile syntax, where the successor elements appear as a space-separated list after a colon. Without the info pages, or a working example of properly-formatted input to tsort(1), you might take several tries before discovering the correct format when using tsort(1) on an offline installation of CRUX.
<farkuhar>
But the easiest solution would have been for the GNU project to flesh out the man-pages so that they don't need to be accompanied by anything under /usr/share/info. Splitting the offline documentation between two different hierarchies in the filesystem never made much sense. Man-pages work fine; why did GNU need to innovate another form of offline documentation?
<farkuhar>
Paging uwumeowmeownyaa: feel free to come back and defend your precious GNU on this matter.
<zorz>
farkuhar: i liked the xtools, specificly xnew and xlint. this is a good idea for crux.