<SiFuh_>
remiliascarlet: I was reading the exportation laws for macropods from Australia. You are not allowed to export a wild Kangaroo if you caught it in the wild for export. However if it was caught not for export but you decide to export it then you can. Also you can't export hand-reared male Kangaroos as they are too dangerous but wild male Kangaroos can be exported as long as it wasn't captured for
<SiFuh_>
export.
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<zorz>
SiFuh_: the law that australia passed for minors using social media is good... they will build hackers :P
<SiFuh_>
Fuck you zorzy!
<SiFuh_>
It's not a law. It is a rule and that fucking rule it is so obvious what the real reason is for it. Age verification means you will need a form of identification to prove who you are. So it effects EVERYONE. And is the next step to impose a digital ID system in Australia. Nothing to do with safety for children at all. Any average fscking Joe should have worked that out.
<zorz>
SiFuh_: yes indeed.......... by the way fuck you!!!!
<zorz>
hahaha
<zorz>
SiFuh_: still no fiber line... next week:P
<SiFuh_>
I ain't that way inclined
<zorz>
SiFuh_: you are safe in Malaysia... but will come
<zorz>
can you imagine SiFuh_ hand over id verification.
<SiFuh_>
No one is safe in the apocalypse
<zorz>
people in the mountains man
<zorz>
jugle people
<SiFuh_>
I am a Mountain Man, I like mounting women.
<SiFuh_>
Hahaha
<zorz>
hahahaha
<SiFuh_>
Common bumper sticker around the world
<zorz>
first time i hear this
<zorz>
SiFuh_: in 2025 having git, if crux ports where git clone then you can do git pull no need for ports -u. simple.
<zorz>
is today this fucking friday,... they broke my balls.
<zorz>
?
<SiFuh_>
Thought your tight jeans was doing that
<zorz>
ofcourse not... black friday advertisments are actual harassment!
<zorz>
i ve been abuse it... i know my rights:P
<zorz>
abused*
<SiFuh_>
I wanted to buy a bag for sometime from Thomas Tools. Yesterday the wife got an email with a Black Friday discount code. 10% off for members and 5% off for everyone else. Since I am a member, I bought the bag and a spare battery pack for her headlamp. 10% off on both.
<SiFuh_>
Now she will be able to use her headlamp for like a month hahahaha
<SiFuh_>
I use a Sidewinder Compact II headlamp. With Infrared, red, blue and white. It is perfect for what I want. Best part is it fits several different battery types. A Lithium, A Alkaline, AA Lithium, AA Alkaline, CR123A Lithium
<SiFuh_>
I mostly use the red and the white light.
<zorz>
heh
<SiFuh_>
Red is my favorite. Can walk by a campsite and no one sees me
<uwumeowmeownyaa>
Australian "people" deserve these laws.
<zorz>
SiFuh_: did you know that beer in russia till 2016 something or 2019 used to be considered not alcoholic beverage but a refreshment :)
<zorz>
heh
<SiFuh_>
zorz: YES
<SiFuh_>
Don't forget zorz I lived in both Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan. 3 litre PET plastic bottles of beer for less than a dollar. :-)
<zorz>
yes!!!!
<zorz>
did not know that, recently I heard of it
<zorz>
now it explains a lot of things about you :P
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<ukky>
uwumeowmeownyaa: Firefox does not support ALSA directly anymore. You need pulseaudio, pipewire-pulse, or apulse to have audio in Firefox.
<ukky>
uwumeowmeownyaa: In Firefox, open this link to see which audio backend Firefox supports: about:support#media
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<farkuhar>
zorz: Yes, you can sync the CRUX ports trees with git, but that currently requires users to install a non-core port. Would you propose moving git (currently in opt) to the core repo? I suspect you'll encounter strong opposition from people who prefer other version control systems.
* SiFuh_
smacks zorz in the face with an old boot.
<SiFuh_>
No git in core!
<zorz>
ok I pass!
<zorz>
:P
<farkuhar>
The modular design that delegates the syncing operation to an executable file under /etc/ports/drivers is arguably easier for users to extend (or modify in place). At most you can criticize the git driver for being too flexible by introducing the LOCAL_REPOSITORY variable (which has no counterpart in the httpup and rsync drivers).
<zorz>
i mean .... everybody runs git
<farkuhar>
uwumeowmeownyaa: To be precise, it's firefox-bin that does not support ALSA as an audio backend. The contrib/firefox port is the one you should install to get ALSA output.
<farkuhar>
I'm currently listening to some streaming media in Firefox, after having verified that none of sndiod, pipewire-pulse, or pulseaudio was running (and about:support#media reported "Audio Backend: alsa").
<farkuhar>
Many of the participants in this thread were quick to reach for apulse or pipewire when their needs became more complicated than routing a single audio stream to the default ALSA sink. https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1169625-start-0.html
<farkuhar>
Now if you were running FreeBSD, you could utilize its in-kernel mixing to create a virtual_oss device, and present that to Firefox as the default soundcard. Just something to consider if you ever get tired of your CRUX VM and want to try a completely different OS (and an audio backend that's neither ALSA nor pulse).
<farkuhar>
The 14:21 June 30 post on that Gentoo thread echoes my own experience: "... playback indeed works with or without apulse, but recording does not. I can change the playback device via '.asoundrc' but it really does not seem to care what I set as a capture device ..."
<farkuhar>
So if you need to use the microphone in Firefox, your safest options are apulse and pipewire. sndio can work too, but make sure your VM is equipped with a full-duplex card. Firefox will only care about the value of AUDIODEVICE, and not make any attempt to respect different values for AUDIORECDEVICE and AUDIOPLAYDEVICE (taking advantage of the man-page loophole that exempts these env vars from modes that are not "play-only or rec-only").
<farkuhar>
zorz: The git ports driver drew criticism from therealfun in FS#1364, precisely because of the flexibility imparted by the LOCAL_REPOSITORY feature. Now that the crux.nu Flyspray instance has been retired, none of those links on the Wiki page SettingUpAGitRepo will work, but my synopsis of therealfun's comments still survives.
<zorz>
the git ports driver is super... !
<farkuhar>
In FS#1111 (stop using a hard-coded base directory for all repositories), ukky pointed out a possible failure mode in the rsync driver: When the parent directory of a ports collection does not exist at the time of running 'ports -u'. Users who maintain an isolated installation at some mountpoint underneath / could benefit from the preliminary test [ -d $(dirname $destination) ] before attempting the rsync operation.
<farkuhar>
In FS#1852 the test [ $(id -u) = 0 ] at the beginning of update_ports() was deemed unnecessary; filesystem permissions are sufficient to prevent unwanted overwriting of the ports collections. By keeping sudo in core, the dev team was able to brush aside the FS#1852 criticism, offering the workaround of `sudo ports -u` instead of removing an unnecessary test from a legacy script.
<farkuhar>
IIRC it was stenur who opened FS#1852, and he was not satisfied by the recommendation to use `sudo ports -u`. Let's work on getting sudo removed from core first, and then we can revisit the idea of deleting the $(id -u) = 0 test.
<farkuhar>
According to the Wiki page PkgutilsIdeas, there was a proposal by Mark Rosenstand to merge ports into prt-get (since the latter already implements 'diff' and 'list' which were originally features of /usr/bin/ports). Alternatively, the listing and diff functionality could be removed from ports(8), leaving only the networking part.
<farkuhar>
Actually I did add a 'sync' command in my forked prt-get repo, so at least in that branch the takeover of ports(8) functionality is complete. I didn't bother to test $(id -u) = 0 as is done in the legacy bash script, lest I incur the wrath of stenur and others who want to sync their ports collections as non-root users.
<zorz>
farkuhar: seems crux has a great deal of bureaucracy... this is not the way to move forward :P
<farkuhar>
zorz: moving forward is overrated. We should pause to appreciate what we have.
<zorz>
sudo pause :P
<farkuhar>
prt-get lock zorz :P
<zorz>
format zorz
<zorz>
mkfs.ext4 -I /dev/zorz
<zorz>
i am building in python a bot for binance.
<remiliascarlet>
farkuhar: "NetBSD's file hierarchy would be a better example to follow..." This would require CRUX-musl to be turned into a binary distro with a ports system to make sense.
<zorz>
remiliascarlet: i agree
<zorz>
remiliascarlet: whats appp? :Ppp UP
<remiliascarlet>
SiFuh_: (About the kangaroo part) So it's kind of similar to Japan's ban on the export of wagyu.
<remiliascarlet>
uwumeowmeownyaa: No human being deserves any unreasonable laws.
<remiliascarlet>
Maybe with the exception of politicians, let them roll in their own shit.
<remiliascarlet>
zorz: "app" is a derogatory term for "any type of software" which people brainwashed by Steve Jobs all use.