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* splittist ports his wip app from djula and vanilla js to htmx and _hyperscript in a successful attempt to avoid actual progress
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<NotThatRPG> Anyone else using sly? Any interest in pulling together a fork that applies a bunch of PRs and fixes some issues? I feel like I'm watching it bit-rot before my eyes, like some kind of sci-fi TV aging...
<yitzi> The maintainer is just a little busy it appears. I've gotten PRs through in the last year.
<NotThatRPG> yitzi: Yes, he says he's busy. I'm just wondering if it's too much for one person.
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<phoe> NotThatRPG: one idea would be to make a fork and then merge all/most/some things back upstream into sly when its maintainer gains some breathing space
<NotThatRPG> Yes, that might work.
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<mfiano> He's an arcitect by day. He doesn't program full time. That said, the few dozen or so issues and PRs I've filed have always been answered like within the hour.
<mfiano> architect*
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<lagash_> NotThatRPG: a fork of a fork? :O
<NotThatRPG> 8 tines to that fork!
<lagash_> It's spoons and sporks all the way down!
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<NotThatRPG> Any idea why slime and sly would give me [sly] `sly-eval-async' errored: Found no function to use as rl-sl-read-system-name
<NotThatRPG> can't find that string anywhere (including Google)
<NotThatRPG> SLIME gives me that, I start it a second time and it works. SLY is just broken for me (MacOS Emacs 28 -- *not* Aquamacs).
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<Devon> Anybody here tried CL-FUSE?
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<NotThatRPG> Re my SLY questions: this was a problem kicked up by redshank. It never occurred to me that an error in redshank could break the interaction between sly and slynk, but there it is.
<NotThatRPG> Still broken for me on emacs 28, though, even with redshank disabled, although SLIME now works again.
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<moon-child> I am planning to draft a specification for a cl extension supporting ieee floating-point arithmetic. An outline is at https://0x0.st/oRy_.txt. Any comments?
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<Devon> moon-child: Greenblatt speaks of using SNaN's 51 bits as Lisp objects.
<moon-child> (of course ftz should also get an optimisation quality. Should be separate from rounding mode twiddling as it affects constant folding, and because it is common to change the rounding mode but leave ftz fixed)
<moon-child> Devon: nan-tagging is a well-known strategy for object representation. It seems to me that my proposal supports this strategy, by making nan support optional
<masinter> moon-xhild: write up a cleanup issue for it
<masinter> cleanup
<moon-child> what is a cleanup issue?
<Devon> moon-child: IEEE 754 says -0 = +0
<moon-child> I plan to write it up, but am curious whether anyone has comments on its current state