#commonlisp on 2022-05-31 — irc logs at libera.irclog.whitequark.org

2022-03-18 12:11 jackdaniel changed the topic of #commonlisp to: Common Lisp, the #1=(programmable . #1#) programming language | Wiki: <https://www.cliki.net> | IRC Logs: <https://irclog.tymoon.eu/libera/%23commonlisp> | Cookbook: <https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook> | Pastebin: <https://plaster.tymoon.eu/> | News: ELS'22 this Monday (2022-03-21), see https://european-lisp-symposium.org

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03:00 <beach> Good morning everyone!

03:04 <weary> good morning, beach!

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08:29 <iceman[m]> <beach> "Good morning everyone!" <- Good Afternoon

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08:33 <beach> iceman[m]: Did you see my link to the errors in Land of Lisp?

08:34 <iceman[m]> beach: yes sir, I did

08:34 <beach> Great! Just checking.

08:34 <beach> Also...

08:34 <beach> minion: Please tell iceman[m] about universal greeting time.

08:34 <minion> iceman[m]: please look at universal greeting time: It is always morning when a person enters a channel, and late night when they leave. You may want to read http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html for further information

08:34 <iceman[m]> <beach> "iceman: http://metamodular.com/..."; <- This one right?

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08:35 <iceman[m]> minion: Oh

08:35 <iceman[m]> Thank you

08:35 <minion> Oh: I can't be expected to work when CLiki doesn't respond to me, can I?

08:35 <beach> Pleasure.

08:35 <beach> Yes, that one.

08:35 <iceman[m]> is minion a bot?

08:35 <iceman[m]> where, `Oh` is the person

08:36 <beach> minion: Are you a bot?

08:36 <minion> i'm not a bot. i prefer the term ``electronically composed''.

08:36 <iceman[m]> LOL

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08:37 <iceman[m]> I got myself a lisp-y profile octure after I started reading PCL

08:37 <iceman[m]> I'm on chapter 3

08:37 <rotateq> iceman[m]: Afaik minion is inspired by Eliza, if you may know it, the program by Joseph Weizenbaum.

08:37 <iceman[m]> s/octure/picture/

08:38 <iceman[m]> I had read about this

08:38 <iceman[m]> I cannot remember where I read

08:38 <beach> iceman[m]: Feel free to ask questions. If they become too frequent and too trivial, you may be asked to continue in #clschool.

08:38 <iceman[m]> beach: Oh okay

08:38 <iceman[m]> Thanks

08:38 <beach> iceman[m]: This channel is not really for newbie questions, but they are tolerated to some extent.

08:39 <iceman[m]> Ok

08:39 <iceman[m]> iceman[m]: Oh I've definitely read about it somewhere, I still cannot figure it out

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10:31 <Ikarus> Hey! Does someone know if cl-autowrap is still maintained? Is it better than cl-cffi? I need to wrap a C library (cimgui) in CL but not sure where to start

10:32 <contrapunctus> Ikarus: see also https://github.com/borodust/claw/

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10:39 <Ikarus> contrapunctus: thanks, having a look. do you have experience with it?

10:40 <contrapunctus> I don't

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10:41 <Shinmera> any reason it has to be cimgui? there's a wrapper for nuklear already.

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10:43 <karthink> Can someone help me write a loop macro? I'm trying to iterate over this list: https://0x0.st/oBJG.txt

10:43 <karthink> There are start times listed for each text fragment. I'm trying to collect 30 seconds of text at a time into a list.

10:45 <karthink> I tried this but it returns all text together in one list instead of in a list of lists of 30 seconds of text each: https://0x0.st/oBJn.txt

10:45 <Ikarus> Shinmera: no in particular. ImGUI seems more complete and used compared to Nuklear. I need it for a gui app. Reccomendation?

10:46 <Shinmera> I haven't used them, so, no recommmendations.

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10:46 <Ikarus> ok thanks

10:46 <Shinmera> I ended up writing my own ui toolkit in lisp because I hate interacting with huge C (let alone c++) blobs.

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10:48 <Ikarus> what graphics lib have you used?

10:48 <Shinmera> OpenGL

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10:52 <Ikarus> yeah nice

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11:02 <lisp123> Interesting question on #emacs

11:02 <lisp123> https://0x0.st/oBJy.txt (data)

11:02 <lisp123> Need to parse this into lists of the text component where each each sublist is all the texts upto a 30 second interval

11:02 <lisp123> Whats a good way to do it?

11:02 <lisp123> Here was the poster's final solution: https://0x0.st/oBJh.txt

11:04 <lisp123> [As an example, the output should look like (("is email about to" "die i mean " ...") <--- collect all strings with start time < 30 seconds)

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11:59 <rotateq> lisp123: not CL:LOOP ?

11:59 <rotateq> ah or it's an emacs clone

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12:27 <lisp123> rotateq: yeah

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12:50 <mfiano> crappy non emacs, non loop version: https://gist.github.com/mfiano/90a5939ba56aa67d66a98c6d30eb23f1

12:52 * mfiano is too tired to continue it. it will only work for the given input because it's only 2 paragraphs

12:52 <mfiano> i messed up my logic there. oh well

12:53 <mfiano> Ah no it should work for any input of the given specification format

12:53 <mfiano> The last paragraph push is to handle the remainder

12:53 <mfiano> And considering i can't read my own code, I am really headed to bed now

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14:22 <Guest74> I guess Ikarus is gone. Afair both death and 3b had bindings to imgui.

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14:25 <paule32> hello Guest74

14:25 <paule32> what the topic ?

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14:37 <Josh_2> My FD's problem is a problem with Dex which is being fixed :D

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14:41 <Guest74> Josh_2: what specifically was it? I'd like to be able to turn connection pooling on.

14:43 <Josh_2> The previous bug with connection pooling was fixed ages ago. Aj said "There are a couple bugs related to how we handle 4xx and 5xx responses. We leak fds in that case. I will push a fix today."

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14:44 <Josh_2> I think he is also fixing a bug with clear-connection-cache as well :thumbsup:

14:48 <Guest74> huh, I think I was only running into a lot of those responses when I was using connection pooling.

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14:49 <Guest74> I kept hitting sites too hard.

14:50 <Josh_2> I guess most of my https is because I am connecting to a Matrix server with my api library

14:51 <Josh_2> And yeh I have no sleep after each request, perhaps a short sleep would solve the issue for now

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15:46 <paule32> Josh_2: good night :) !

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17:14 <Josh_2> Guest74: I think AJ's patch has worked

17:15 <Guest74> good to hear, not that I was in any rush, too deep into font stuff right now.

17:19 <Josh_2> When you gonna get a username huh?

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17:21 <Guest74> after I can place a glyph where ever I want in a font agnostic manner.

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17:51 <Josh_2> Very nice, I made my issue yesterday and it seems to be all fixed today :D

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18:57 <pve> Hi, I'd like to crawl a web forum in order to do some offline text processing. Is there a crawler library anyone can recommend?

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19:03 <paule32> wget

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20:03 <mfiano> paule32: This is a Common Lisp channel.

20:03 <mfiano> wget is not written in Common Lisp and not a library.

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20:37 <Josh_2> pve you could combine dexador with plump

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21:23 <Guest74> I really wish someone made a 'reading mode' scraper so I can just display the output and voila, a non annoying cl web browser.

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22:01 * |3b| has no imgui bindings, but has written bits of an im ui lib (not expected to be generally useful though, even to the extent of the c im ui libs. planning to write a 'real' one at some point, but probably not soon)

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23:34 <bollu> Does common lisp have the equivalent of a 'docstring', where I can shove things like `\` without escaping them?

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23:41 <pjb> bollu: nope, but it's trivial to do that yourself.

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23:42 <pjb> bollu: for example, if you wanted C strings: https://termbin.com/muv4

23:43 <pjb> bollu: you could use « and » for those escape-less strings.

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