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<semz> What would be a situation where you'd put only one of :load-toplevel and :execute into an eval-when?
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<jasom> semz: I've used :compile-toplevel and :load-toplevel in a lisp file to have non-lisp languages compile in ASDF without having to muck with ASDF code
<jasom> e.g. in here, I generate javascript from parenscript when compiling, and then shell out to a build script for minifying &c. https://github.com/jasom/cl-fccs/blob/master/src/genparenscript.lisp I have genparenscript.lisp depend on the parenscript sources so that it will get recompiled when they change, but not otherwise
<jasom> It's a bit of a hack, but it works
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<beach> Good morning everyone!
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<Josh_2> Good morning
<Josh_2> I am using bknr, I have to change the class of a lot of items in my datastore in a single loop, would I be better off with a single transaction or one for each changed item? This action has to be performed in the background
<Josh_2> Ofcourse I am using the mp-store.
<Josh_2> I guess it would be useful in this case to lock the entire database just while I perform this background task, I dont think it should take long
<Josh_2> well obviously it wont with small numbers but who knows about processing millions O:
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<Josh_2> Also, how do I disable the warning from bknr about persistent class changes not maintaining class indices or something, its really annoying
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<pjb> Josh_2: there's cl:muffle-warning
<Josh_2> Thanks :)
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<pjb> But it's designed to process conditions, with a restart-case and handler-bind. I'm not sure how to do it for a mere warn call.
<pjb> Ah, yes. WARN signals a WARNING condition. So you'd handler-bind WARNING and call muffle-warning there.
<Josh_2> This is what I have done, thanks
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<jackdaniel> we need to update the standard to include cl:muffle-serious-condition
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<jackdaniel> I've learned how to segfault inkscape :) http://turtleware.eu/static/paste/fc5d98eb-foo.svg (works in the browser)
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<flip214> "SPIPaint::read: url is empty or invalid
<flip214> jackdaniel: fill='url(#p2'>
<flip214> might put a ) there and it works...
<flip214> you as an experienced lisper should be able to match up the parenthesis!!!1!! ;)
<jackdaniel> heh, right you are (although I don't see the filling, so "not segfaults" would be more appropriate than "works") thanks
<flip214> jackdaniel: it takes a few seconds and a bit of zooming, then I can see a blue background color.
<jackdaniel> see how it looks in the browser
<jackdaniel> there is a solid filling at the intersection of three shapes
<jackdaniel> I've been experimenting on how you could implement the clip as an intersection of various regions in svg
<jackdaniel> there were also some segfaults when I was tinkering with filters, but now I'm not so convinced to assert that it is "inkscape" fault, perhaps another missing paren ,)
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<SAL9000> fe[nl]ix: luis: pl: we have the European Lisp Symposium coming up next Monday; could we get a mention in the topic? Official channel will be #els2022
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<SAL9000> Duuqnd: would you be able/willing to run the Twitch-IRC bridge again and/or provide source code so we can run it ourselves?
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<Duuqnd> I believe I sent the relevant source code to phoe
<phoe> Duuqnd: yes, you did
<Duuqnd> I think I struggled with connecting it to Libera for some reason, but I can't remember the details
<phoe> oh wait, I have the sources
* phoe sends to SAL9000
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<Duuqnd> I think I accidentally left the Twitch API key to the bot in that archive, but I trust that neither of you will do anything bad with it
<SAL9000> You did. We appreciate the trust :)
<jackdaniel> what was the key value again?
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<SAL9000> 42
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jackdaniel changed the topic of #commonlisp to: Common Lisp, the #1=(programmable . #1#) programming language | Wiki: <https://www.cliki.net> | IRC Logs: <https://irclog.tymoon.eu/libera/%23commonlisp> | Cookbook: <https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook> | Pastebin: <https://plaster.tymoon.eu/> | News: ELS'22 this Monday (2022-03-21), see https://european-lisp-symposium.org |
jackdaniel changed the topic of #commonlisp to: Common Lisp, the #1=(programmable . #1#) programming language | Wiki: <https://www.cliki.net> | IRC Logs: <https://irclog.tymoon.eu/libera/%23commonlisp> | Cookbook: <https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook> | Pastebin: <https://plaster.tymoon.eu/> | News: ELS'22 this Monday (2022-03-21), see https://european-lisp-symposium.org
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<beach> SAL9000: When will the channel be created?
<SAL9000> beach: #els2022 already exists. We're trying to reclaim #elsconf which was the one we used last year.
<beach> Ah, OK.
<rotateq> Thanks for this tip. :)
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<SAL9000> flip214: on that note, could you update #els2021 topic (or op me and/or phoe in that channel so we can do it) ? There might be some people in there who aren't in other channels, etc.
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<Guest74> jackdaniel: I've recently found out malformed or unexpected data can take down most svg viewers.
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<jasom> To be fair you can replace "svg viewers" with "programs" and still be correct
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<jackdaniel> http://turtleware.eu/static/paste/f2cbbf66-foo.html - clip intersection + a negative region (whole)
<jackdaniel> the actual fill is green
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<jackdaniel> s/whole/hole/
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<drbluefall> Okay, for some reason `cl-unicode` is refusing to cooperate
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<tane> Howdy; how could I sort a part of a vector, i.e. only sort elements between indices 4..10 or something like that?
<Catie> Would making a displaced vector across those indices work? I know vector displacement has some weird gotchas, but my impression is that it would also modify the underlying vector
<Catie> Or, if you don't need destructive modification, there's always good old SUBSEQ
<pjb> (let ((vector (vector 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1)) (start 3) (length 3)) (sort (make-array length :displaced-to vector :displaced-index-offset start) (function <)) vector) -> #(9 8 7 4 5 6 3 2 1)
<tane> Catie, pjb thanks!
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<_death> but SORT may also return a different vector, and the original one may not contain the expected result
<_death> so perhaps (replace vector (sort (subseq vector start end) ...) :start1 start)
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<_death> (if you want to guarantee nonconsing behavior, you need to write your own SORT anyway)
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<pjb> Damned, indeed!
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<semz> That sure is a gotcha. I guess it makes sense for consistency with lists.
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<hashfunc569> why is ` considered to be an atom --- QUASIQUOTE ---, but , is not considered to be an atom --- instead ,BODY is considered the atom? --- in the form: https://pastebin.com/nWBnDFL9
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<hashfunc569> in other words, why is the comma not separated out in the form https://pastebin.com/nWBnDFL9
<pjb> hashfunc569: they are not, in Common Lisp.