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<_jlk_>
hello! I'm a bit stumped and could use a hand... if I define a metaclass with slots, I can supply initargs in the class by providing additional options to defclass, so far so good, even if they are wrapped in a list. If I do the same thing with a metaclass for a generic function, passing additional options through defgeneric causes an unsupported-option error. I guess the question is, how to I actually provide values to the generic
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<contrapunctus>
shka: glad my suggestion helped :)
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<Nilby>
_jlk_: i'm not sure, but if you're designing your own function metaclass i.e. your own class of generic functions, you probably have to make your own defgeneric like macro which supports your own options, which seems a bit tricky, but is basically a wrapper around make-instance and ensure-generic-function[-with-class]
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<Bike>
yeah, you should pretty much just need to call ensure-generic-function. the macro layer isn't as flexible as the functional.
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<_jlk_>
cheers for the responses, that's pretty much what I'm thinking. cltl suggests that implementations can extend defgeneric to include other options (with similar wording to defclass), but sbcl and ccl at least don't seem to allow user extensions. makes me wonder if the defclass version wouldn't be portable anyway.
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<Guest74>
the word Lisp never seems to make searching easy. Couple that with Parts Of Speech and your lost in an entirely different domain.
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<beach>
Heh!
<flip214>
Guest74: "Common Lisp" works better... and it only takes a few searches for Google to know your interests, too ;(
<Guest74>
actually I've switched to duckduckgo a while ago. Which makes me think I found that other library with google. I might try that.
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<Guest74>
the only parts of BABEL I've seen people use are things like babel:octets-to-string. Who knew it's an "all-in-one toolkit for multi-agent experiments on emergent communication" and fluid construction grammars.
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<contrapunctus>
Guest74: lisp = speech impairment; LISP = Location/Identifier Separation Protocol; LISP = LISt Processing; and then there's Lisp...
<jackdaniel>
LIPS "Leave It Pretty Simple"
<Guest74>
Tell it to the search engine contrapunctus: :p
<contrapunctus>
hehe
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<horroar>
How common is it, really?
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<horroar>
Also, is the jew in charge of CLOG in here?
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<yitzi>
horroar: Try learning names.
<rotateq>
What is common? Coming to an IRC channel and try to confuse?
<rotateq>
Or learning some politeness, like "Is the *maintainer* of CLOG in here?".
<tibfulv>
:-)b
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<horroar>
yitzi: That's exactly the purpose of asking that question.
<horroar>
rotateq: How would insulting someone with the concept of making such terrible software that it's never finished be polite?
<rotateq>
horroar: First it's about *your* appearance here. And if something isn't finished for you and it's open source you could work on it too instead of complaining randomly.
<rotateq>
Just a nice hint. :)
<yitzi>
horroar: I am not buying that. A simple web search could have answered that question. You appear to be trolling at a minimum and possible more.
<mfiano>
If you ever think software is finished, you must be new to computers.
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<tibfulv>
While I disapprove of calling people random names, dbotton does call himself a rabbi on github. horroar, you may ask there if you haven't already. https://github.com/rabbibotton/clog
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<dbotton>
horroar: how can I help you? CLOGs base api is stable
<dbotton>
It has not changed in a year and is almost identical to it's older sibling gnoga which is 10 years old
<dbotton>
CLOG builder is new and so is the clog-websight additions
<dbotton>
I hope the CLOG is never finished
<dbotton>
I have so so much more to go
<dbotton>
Just wish I had the time to do more every day
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<kaskal>
dbotton do not answer to trolls like horroar ...
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<Bike>
please do not refer to strangers by phrases like "the jew", especially if to guess they're jewish you'd have to look at their github profile and thus know their name. the internet is impolite enough already.
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<tibfulv>
b
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