#maemo-leste on 2025-02-10 — irc logs at libera.irclog.whitequark.org

2023-08-13 21:41 Wizzup changed the topic of #maemo-leste to: Maemo Leste is in alpha: https://maemo-leste.github.io | ML: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/list/maemo-leste.en.html | Latest status: http://tny.im/v0T | Wiki: https://leste.maemo.org | IRC: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/maemo-leste/ ; https://maedevu.maemo.org/irc.txt

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08:52 <Wizzup> arno11: https://maedevu.maemo.org/images/n900/20250209-daedalus/

08:54 <Wizzup> I think we can probably just not build the u-boot files fwiw

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09:14 <Wizzup> trying now

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09:15 <arno11> Wizzup: i tried the img

09:16 <arno11> it boots but H-D freezes

09:16 <arno11> got lot of errors in boot logs

09:16 <arno11> hildon-home and mafw mainly

09:17 <Wizzup> let's see if I get that too

09:17 <arno11> it is emmc swap btw

09:17 <arno11> ok

09:26 <arno11> maybe freezing is just because of emmc swap (which works fine in tiny img, weird)

09:27 <Wizzup> so I am testing first and foremost of daedalus boots ok

09:28 <Wizzup> like, if it works

09:28 <Wizzup> it might be slow, but that's another thing to address

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09:37 <Wizzup> ok, I think it also froze for me

09:37 <arno11> probably becuse of swap

09:37 <Wizzup> is the swap different?

09:38 <arno11> it is emmc and it freezes with 6.6

09:38 <Wizzup> or did we determine emmc swap wasn't good of something

09:38 <Wizzup> ah

09:38 <Wizzup> I thought we fixed it by now

09:38 <Wizzup> ok

09:38 <arno11> we fixed it by using sdswap

09:38 <Wizzup> right, and that's not in leste-config or something?

09:38 <arno11> it is

09:38 <Wizzup> oh arm-sdk overrides it

09:39 <Wizzup> or arm-sdk overrides it*

09:39 <arno11> it maybe failed in jenkins

09:39 <Wizzup> I suspect the file from arm-sdk (etc/fstab) is installed after leste-config

09:40 <arno11> ah

09:40 <Wizzup> but, didn't we have a kernel fix for this?

09:41 <Wizzup> brb

09:41 <arno11> not sure @kernel fix

09:43 <arno11> anyway, i'll create a swap file and modify fstab a bit later

09:43 <arno11> to check if it is the problem

09:55 <arno11> bbl

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10:53 <Wizzup> yeah so etc/fstab is likely copied from arm-sdk

10:53 <Wizzup> there is a swap file on the sd card though

10:55 <Wizzup> booting now

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11:50 <arno_daedalus> Wizzup: it works :)

11:50 <arno_daedalus> quite fast with no optimization

11:51 <arno_daedalus> i added swap file in fstab and blocked mafw

11:52 <arno_daedalus> bbl

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11:53 <Wizzup> I didn't block mafw and it is fine for me

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13:27 <dsc_> freemangordon: hi

13:28 <dsc_> how to get a OssoABookContact from a remote_uid

13:29 <dsc_> i dont see it in the documentation

13:29 <dsc_> so we must always iterate the whole roster

13:34 <dsc_> this osso abook integration has really complicated the conversations code

13:35 <dsc_> not great... :)

13:37 <dsc_> I shall maybe write a sane C++ wrapper

13:43 <dsc_> just something that translates the glib stuff to qt stuff

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16:55 <arno11> Wizzup: currently toying with daedalus, no major issue

16:56 <arno11> qt5 are sloooow to launch, not sure why

16:56 <arno11> *qt5 apps

16:57 <arno11> is it the same for you ?

16:58 <arno11> otherwise, calls work fine, sms, web, wifi, 3g-hsdpa

16:58 <arno11> boost still works

16:58 <arno11> pm is also ok apparently

16:59 <Wizzup> not sure if/why qt would be slower but we can investigate

16:59 <arno11> idk, maybe some qt env var

17:00 <arno11> it is 5 times slower than my chimaera

17:00 <arno11> but it could also be my sd card

17:01 <arno11> or trackers

17:02 <arno11> it takes around 12 sec to open calculator lol

17:02 <arno11> around 2 sec on my chimaera

17:09 <Wizzup> all good to investigate

17:09 <Wizzup> I think we also have the qt input method now in the env vars

17:11 <arno11> yep and vkb works fine in conversations

17:13 <dsc_> could tmp. disable vkb

17:13 <dsc_> but its not really doing a lot I think, memory wise

17:13 <dsc_> https://github.com/maemo-leste/qt-input-maemo/blob/master/plugin/CMakeLists.txt#L31-L40

17:13 <dsc_> its a GUI-less program

17:14 <arno11> i doubt input stuff is a problem as it works fine with chimaera

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17:16 <arno11> with no memory impact

17:17 <arno11> Wizzup: is qt5 app launch slow on your n900 chimaera ?

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17:19 <Wizzup> arno11: I dist upgraded, but can dd a chimaera image

17:19 <Wizzup> arno11: I don't think setting the qt env var for input ever made it to chimaera fwiw

17:20 <Wizzup> I am also not saying it is the IM stuff, just pointing out potential difference

17:20 <arno11> yes probably

17:20 <arno11> no need to dd chimaera, thx

17:21 <Wizzup> I wonder if emmc swap works ok in 6.12

17:22 <arno11> good question, i even wonder if the problem is not somewhere in our softwares, as emmc swap works fine with the daedalus tiny img

17:24 <arno11> and not in full chimaera or daedalus img with 6.6

17:24 <Wizzup> are you sure it works fine, or did it just never need the swap

17:24 <Wizzup> I am inclined to think it's probably the latter

17:24 <gnarface> is it a good idea to swap on emmc?

17:25 <gnarface> i heard that was bad for it...

17:27 <arno11> Wizzup: indeed it maybe never need the swap...

17:27 <arno11> so really not sure. let's see in 6.12 :P

17:29 <arno11> gnarface: imo emmc swap is useful for users with slow sdcard

17:30 <gnarface> well i heard it was bad for sd cards too

17:30 <arno11> probably bad anyway :P

17:38 <arno11> Wizzup: hmm when i launch qalendar from terminal, i see 'MESA: info: Unloaded libpvr_dri_support.so' taking 10 sec to appear

17:38 <arno11> then i get segfault when i close the calendar from the ui

17:39 <arno11> so maybe new gpu stuff related ?

17:42 <arno11> same with osso calculator

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17:59 <Wizzup> arno11: will check

18:00 <arno11> ok

18:03 <Wizzup> arno11: when do you get that segfault

18:03 <Wizzup> how do you start this? over ssh?

18:04 <Wizzup> but this is on my dist-upgraded one

18:05 <arno11> i start it from the terminal on the device itself: osso_calculator

18:06 <arno11> and qalendar

18:06 <Wizzup> yeah I did that, and on the dist-upgraded one there is no issue

18:06 <arno11> is it quite fast to launch or ?

18:07 <arno11> i mean on the dist upgrade one

18:09 <arno11> (if it's ok from dist-upgrade, something is missing in the img, no ?)

18:11 <Wizzup> I will check @ launch

18:11 <Wizzup> I don't know if it will be something missing or something else

18:11 <Wizzup> it seems a bit faster to start

18:11 <arno11> ok

18:11 <arno11> brb

18:20 <freemangordon> dsc_: what about http://maemo.org/api_refs/5.0/5.0-final/libosso-abook/OssoABookAggregator.html#osso-abook-aggregator-lookup ?

18:20 <freemangordon> or osso_abook_aggregator_find_contacts()

18:21 <freemangordon> and friends

18:22 <freemangordon> what is this 'remote_uid' you want to find contact for?

18:22 <freemangordon> remote account username? or?

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18:51 <arno11> Wizzup: i looked @irc logs to check what i did to speed up qt5

18:51 <arno11> installing gtk appmenu stuff makes a diff

18:53 <arno11> but randomly...

18:54 <arno11> really weird

18:55 <arno11> i see the wifi selection network bug sometimes too

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22:05 <arno11> ah for wifi, it happens only with no sim or nokia modem not loaded, so same as chimaera iirc

22:05 <arno11> everything seems fine apart qt5 launch

22:06 <arno11> seems not cpu or ram related. only launch/close is buggy

22:07 <arno11> btw as usual, few changes in transitions make things a lot smoother

22:10 <Wizzup> can you sharet hose changes again with me?

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22:12 <arno11> /leste/config/pull/50/commits

22:13 <arno11> but if you want to keep blur, you should set [home] radius = 1 and radius_more = 2

22:19 <arno11> */leste-config ofc

22:21 <Wizzup> https://github.com/maemo-leste/leste-config/pull/50/commits

22:22 <arno11> yep

22:24 <arno11> freemangordon: when i launch es2gears with daedalus, it works with similar perf as chimaera but got lot of mesa/pvr errors

22:25 <Wizzup> maybe we should just make this the default transitions for n900

22:27 <arno11> not sure, it is not 'perfect'

22:27 <arno11> and not sure the behaviour is the same with other themes

22:30 <arno11> but if we adjust few things, yes it should be cool as default

22:31 <Wizzup> I do think some blur is helpful fwiw. do you use the alt app launcher screen because of that, or?

22:33 <arno11> the alt app launcher screen ?

22:33 <arno11> for blur, yes it is useful for sure

22:35 <arno11> but radius 12 and radius more 16 is too much by default (for perfs)

22:35 <arno11> 1 and 2 are enough imo

22:37 <arno11> to avoid misunderstanding, i should create a new PR with wave and low blur, and with commented original values

22:47 <Wizzup> I think wave is what I meant with new launcher screen

22:51 <arno11> ah ok, i meant wave effects in launcher

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23:07 <Wizzup> I agree a smaller radius is good

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23:21 <arno11> mhm

23:33 <arno11> Wizzup: qt5 issue seems env var related

23:34 <arno11> if i launch osso calculator with QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=qt5ct, it starts in 3 sec

23:34 <arno11> instead of 10 or 12

23:34 <arno11> still got segfault on close btw

23:37 <arno11> anyway, it's late

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23:44 <Wizzup> good finds