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<buZz> Wizzup: woa, leste on Outa? :D
<buZz> ouya*
<buZz> that would be legendary, haha
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<uvos> Wizzup: sure copy what ever makes the most sense, image builder wise.
<uvos> for the meta package, leste-config, copy pp
<uvos> we will need a new kernel yes, its not really _that_ manny patches, we could maybe integrate it later
<uvos> we also need to package quite a bit for firmware
<uvos> not sure what to do about that, pmos has a script that scrapes fw from the android partitions on boot
<uvos> they dont pacakge the fw either, for the most part
<Wizzup> freemangordon: if device is locked and opened by program, say alarm, then ts does not work
<Wizzup> I had to lock and unlock manually
<Wizzup> uvos: oh, that is a bit odd
<Wizzup> @ scraping
<uvos> fw has unclear licence
<uvos> i dont think we really need to care about that tho
<uvos> los dosent either
<uvos> and they are the mutch bigger and more visible target
<Wizzup> I agree
<Wizzup> we might want to watch for fw being different for the different models
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<freemangordon> Wizzup: maybe pester uvos about it, that's mce realm
<freemangordon> i may have a look at it as well though
<freemangordon> Wizzup: or, perhaps TS is inhibited?
<freemangordon> could you check?
<Wizzup> freemangordon: I think it could be the inhibit thing
<Wizzup> freemangordon: yeah ok will check today
<norayr> uvos, btw i checked svkbd from suckless/sxmo projects, they do setxkbmap by code.
<norayr> i checked the source because i added two layouts there, dvorak and armenian.
<norayr> so my understanding is that they also have to use setxkbmap, and it has to be in the code, for this layout you do setxkbmap this, and for that - setxkbmap that. no detecting, just mapping.
<norayr> everybody: other interesting thing is that i like that tapping on the input field doesn't bring the keyboard up.
<norayr> for bringing up the keyboard one needs to specifically use the gesture in sxmo to bring it up.
<norayr> and to bring it down the same.
<norayr> i happen to like it very much. and it behaves just as regular xorg onscreen keyboard. it types in everything.
<norayr> >apping on the input field doesn't bring the keyboard up.
<norayr> maybe i intent to use hw kbd, or i tapped to then do ctrl-a ctrl-c and copy what is there.
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<sicelo> that could just be toggled by presence or state of hwkbd, i guess ... like with the stock OSes of the hwkbd phones
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<uvos> usbnet dosent apear to work
<uvos> shouldent something bing up the interface?
<uvos> device side
<uvos> i have to do that by hand
<Wizzup> uvos: do you have configfs and such?
<Wizzup> uvos: ke-recv should do this
<uvos> CONFIG_USB_CONFIGFS=y
<uvos> jup
<uvos> dosent seam to work
<uvos> but it dosent seam to work on my d4 eihter
<Wizzup> huh
<uvos> btw xorg crashes on reboot, poweroff
<uvos> beacause logind is stopped before xorg
<uvos> xorg really really dosent like this
<Wizzup> we can add 'before logind' for stopping to the init script I think
<Wizzup> uvos: I get this:
<Wizzup> [2739419.234385] rndis_host 6-1.4:1.0 usb0: register 'rndis_host' at usb-0000:07:00.4-1.4, RNDIS device, 7a:77:d5:b8:3c:af
<Wizzup> maybe you forgot we now use rndis rather than the usual method
<Wizzup> (just a guess)
<Wizzup> (on d4)
<uvos> thats not the problem
<uvos> the problem is that if i configure the interface on the host side, i cant access the phone side untill i configure the interface there too by hand
<uvos> or am i missing how this is supposed to work
<uvos> where is the phone suppsoed to get an ip address from on the usb0 if
<Wizzup> right, ke-recv-extra sets this
<Wizzup> sec
<uvos> then its not working
<uvos> anyhow wlan wroks on xt1602 now
<uvos> so imidate need is reduced
<Wizzup> sorry, ke-rexc*
<Wizzup> recv*
<Wizzup> pcsuite_enable.sh should bring it up and assign it
<Wizzup> if the interface called usb0?
<Wizzup> logger "$0: starting pcsuite"
<Wizzup> /usr/sbin/hildon-usb-gadget-network
<Wizzup> # TODO: check error code here
<Wizzup> ifconfig usb0 up
<Wizzup> ifconfig usb0 192.168.42.2
<uvos> ifconfig
<uvos> command not found
<uvos> obvious problem
<uvos> that whent away with chimaera
<uvos> unless you have the compat package installed
<Wizzup> uvos: that's one, and then there is that it might not detect it being hotplugged
<Wizzup> if it is extcon it might just work
<Wizzup> uvos: can you check if it works if ifconfig is installed?
<uvos> well missing ifconfig def is the reason why it cant work on my d4
<Wizzup> mhm
<Wizzup> I meant on the moto g 4
<uvos> right
<uvos> qtwebbrowser is really fast on xt1602
<uvos> but the hildon button in the top left corner makes it impossible to use the deivce left handed :|
<uvos> er one handed i mean
<Wizzup> in portrait I guess?
<uvos> i mean both
<uvos> in landscape its maybe ok if your one hand is the left hand
<uvos> but then there is no getting to X
<Wizzup> ok
<uvos> for some reason mce cant handle the device haveing 4095 pannel brightness levels
<Wizzup> building new ke-recv
<Wizzup> uvos: maybe log scaling or something?
<uvos> maybe, should not be to hard to figure out
<Wizzup> uvos: ah, is this what 'turns off' the screen?
<uvos> no theres more to it than that
<uvos> somethings wrong with freedreno/glamor
<uvos> it works fine in sw mode
<Wizzup> ok
<sicelo> Porting the script to use iproute2 instead of ifconfig is trivial
<uvos> pretty sure Wizzup did so just now
<Wizzup> no, I just had it depend on ifconfig
<Wizzup> net-tools rather
<uvos> hm ok
<Wizzup> since we rely on it in other places too
<Wizzup> I bet
<uvos> but those will go away eventually
<Wizzup> probably :P
<Wizzup> sicelo: if you want to find all usage of 'ifconfig' in maemo-leste and submit PRs for each then we can stop depending on it
<Wizzup> for now I just fixed the regression
<sicelo> ok. will try and find time for that
<Wizzup> as far as I am concerned you don't have to btw
<Wizzup> mostly just indicating that I personally don't care too much about this
<Wizzup> whenever I find that ifconfig isn't installed on a machine, I just install it
<Wizzup> :p
<Wizzup> btw, I have invited to speak at https://www.dorscluc.org/
<Wizzup> and might have a stand too
<Wizzup> (maemo)
<sicelo> oh cool
<Wizzup> it won't be anything new talk wise
<Wizzup> but at least it's publicity :p
<sicelo> it'd be great to get a user who has pinephone pro, so support for it could be done as well
<Wizzup> how much do they cost?
<Wizzup> 400 eur?
<sicelo> mmm, no idea tbh :-)
<sicelo> should be less than that
<Wizzup> 400 dollar then
<sicelo> just checked, yes
<Wizzup> ok, hm
<Wizzup> I think we could just order one or two
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<buZz> i'm still hunting for a affordable Pocophone F1 :P
<Wizzup> to do a leste port?
<buZz> well, someone started one already? at least its somewhere between our files
<buZz> supposedly that Xiaomi phone can run mainline
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<uvos> yeah the pocophone has most everything in place
<uvos> it just needs a maintaner
<uvos> it probubly bitroted quite a bit by now
<buZz> i guess, i just mostly want to see how well mainline works, and then try whatever i can find :) maybe pp rootfs already gets me most the way
<Wizzup> we have code to build poco images
<Wizzup> but it will take quite a lot of time to make it work well I guess
<freemangordon> uvos: re xorg/logind I think we shall decide what we need stopped actually in off runlevel
<freemangordon> I think we can have xorg/logind running till the end
<freemangordon> this will speed-up poweroff too
<freemangordon> or maybe not, maybe this will prevent unmounting filesystems
<buZz> Wizzup: yeah i have no dreams of making it work well ;) just work would be enough for me
<buZz> and seems like fun to try :)
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<Hatman> Hi
<Wizzup> hello
<uvos> freemangordon: i dont think leaving the session/xorg running untill the kernel kills every process right at the end is sane
<uvos> also xorg will still likely exit with error in this case
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<freemangordon> uvos: not that important, but it is not the kernel that kills the processes, there is 'sendsigs' init script that does it.
<freemangordon> however, I don;t see what is the benefit of having xorg exit gracefully
<freemangordon> could you elaborate?
<freemangordon> also, dsme can be used to control elogind/autoboot/xorg, so it is not that complicated to fix the order
<freemangordon> well, not elogind, but autologin/xorg
<freemangordon> but, if we go that route, we shall stop all processes running in xorg before stoppong xorg
<freemangordon> I implemented that in dsme, but reverted it, as it takes 10-15 seconds on d4 to terminate all dsme processes gracefully
<Wizzup> Hatman: what's up
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<Hatman> Hi. All fine just joined
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<Wizzup> cool, let us know if you have any questions
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<freemangordon> Wizzup: do you fix ke-recv?
<freemangordon> because there is some bug causing it to segfault in VM
<freemangordon> Wizzup: https://pastebin.com/kJ9s8DwD
<freemangordon> shall I fix it?
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<Wizzup> freemangordon: never saw that, pls check if you can
<Wizzup> freemangordon: looks like you already did
<Wizzup> :D
<freemangordon> yep
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<arno11> Wizzup: quick news about n900 calls. i've restarted from the beginning using pulse.c from master branch with very few modif and no hack
<arno11> results:
<arno11> i get 29ms latency very stable with good sound quality
<arno11> in one way there is almost no latency
<arno11> and in the other way few more
<arno11> but acceptable i think
<arno11> when i receive a call there is a weird 3 sec latency at the beginning of the call (PA is setting up latency)
<arno11> and then everything is fine
<arno11> at the opposite when i call another phone, no latency at the beginning and everything is fine
<norayr> folks, does droid4 vibrate when getting libnotify message?
<norayr> how can i make it vibrate when dino sends notification?
<Wizzup> arno11: 'no hack'?
<arno11> Wizzup: i mean no pactl latency command
<arno11> like we tried with your pulse.c version
<Wizzup> ok, but with my changes?
<arno11> no i used the master branch version with few other changes
<arno11> (just 2 or 3 values changed)
<Wizzup> well, before you had a much higher latency, so that's weird
<Wizzup> in any case the code in master is quite clearly wrong (imo) wrt latency handling
<Wizzup> what did you change?
<arno11> well, the original code is not as wrong as we think
<arno11> sec
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<arno11> because pa_usec_to_bytes for example cannot work
<arno11> it is just like a request for pulseaudio
<arno11> and it is canceled by other PA stuff
<arno11> and it is in fact unstable if we do several calls
<arno11> other example
<Wizzup> cancelled how?
<arno11> sec
<Wizzup> online doc says this is the best way to tell PA to do low latency without hickups and other issues, IIUC
<Wizzup> if it gets slower maybe there is too much resampling going on (?)
<arno11> yes the best way if tsched is deactivated
<arno11> no diff with resampling
<arno11> in every case still high
<arno11> i even tried to change your settings and PA canceled in fact everything
<arno11> how i know that ? i tried to test latency with my voice using always the same syllables and different settings in pulse.c and compared with pactl latency results
<arno11> result is there is almost no diff. excepting stability and quality of sound
<arno11> i mean, even if pactl says there is 10ms latency, it is not the case in real conditions
<arno11> i think in every cases we will have a lot of resampling because other stuffs are running at 44100hz or 48000hz (like ringtones)
<Wizzup> (sorry, work mtg)
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<Hatman900> connecting to irc in n900 nice }
<Wizzup> -)
<arno11> oh yeah no probs man, sorry. Anyway everything is running well :)
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<arno11> Hatman900: yeah irc rocks on n900 :)
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<norayr> how can i make d4 to vibrate when dino sends notification?
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