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<tmlind> dsc_: hehe looking at the comments from norayr, maybe name it omgweather :)
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<jk_000> hello! 0/ thanx for the amazing work on maemo leste and mobile linux!!
<jk_000> GNU+Linux ^^
<jk_000> has anyone tried a mouse on maemo-leste? I did on a droid4 and the movement is vey lagy hehe how could this be synchronized
<Wizzup> how laggy is the movement?
<Wizzup> jk_000: is it a bluetooth mouse, or cable?
<freemangordon> does anybody here know SPARQL?
<Wizzup> no, but I can help figure out how to write queries if you want
<Wizzup> I doesn't seem too hard from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SPARQL
<freemangordon> actually there seems to be SQL interface, but I am not sure it works properly
<freemangordon> user@devuan:~/git/mafw-tracker-source$ tracker sql -q 'SELECT * FROM "nmm:Video"'
<freemangordon> Results:
<freemangordon> --------------------------------------------------
<freemangordon> 100019 | (null) | (null) | (null) | (null) | (null) | (null) | (null) | (null) | (null) | (null) | (null) | (null) | (null) | (null) | (null) | (null) | (null) | (null) | (null) | (null) | (null) | (null) | (null) | (null) | (null) | (null)
<Wizzup> where does the tracker db come from?
<freemangordon> I started tracker-miner-fs
<Wizzup> as user I suppose?
<freemangordon> yes
<freemangordon> I am still unable to find the structure of the DB though
<freemangordon> like, what are the names of all those columns
<Wizzup> I'm installing it now
<Wizzup> $ tracker status
<Wizzup> Currently indexed: 432 files, 64 folders
<Wizzup> ok, I have something now
<freemangordon> mhm
<freemangordon> make sure to have some video file, somewhere
<Wizzup> or audio?
<freemangordon> yeah
<Wizzup> btw, do you know what the backing db is?
<freemangordon> I think it is sqlite
<Wizzup> 'tracker search -f' lists files
<Wizzup> freemangordon: ok, then we can figure it out
<freemangordon> yeah
<freemangordon> ~/./cache/tracker
<Wizzup> just a sec
<freemangordon> this:
<freemangordon> user@devuan:~/.cache/tracker$ tracker sql -q 'SELECT `nmm:videoAlbum` FROM "nmm:Video"'
<freemangordon> (null)
<freemangordon> Results:
<freemangordon> --------------------------------------------------
<Wizzup> back
<freemangordon> so, weh have SQL
<freemangordon> now we need to match old tracker lib to sql queries
<Wizzup> the database schema is huge
<freemangordon> mhm
<freemangordon> maybe it ise better to use SPARQL though
<freemangordon> otherwise we'll have to learn all the schema
<Wizzup> I had the tracker index my mpd music directory and it sees the files but doesn't think it is music
<freemangordon> how do you know?
<Wizzup> tracker search --music namehere
<freemangordon> what is name?
<Wizzup> the name of the band
<Wizzup> it shows with tracker search -f namehere
<freemangordon> like, how does it know the names
<freemangordon> ah
<Wizzup> from the file name and flac metadata I suppose
<Wizzup> if it is any clever at all
<Wizzup> tracker extract on a file path also looks interesting
<freemangordon> 'maemo:relevance' = '1000000.0'
<freemangordon> :D
<Wizzup> yeah I saw that
<Wizzup> don't know how it got there
<freemangordon> seems there are some remnants
<Wizzup> sicelo: you asked about ui-fonts, it's installed on my device
<Wizzup> it's also in chimaera
<Wizzup> freemangordon: if you have some examples of sql from fremantle I can try to port them
<Wizzup> it does look like sparql will be easier to use than sql
<freemangordon> mhm
<Wizzup> most of the (null)s in the columns are not relevant for us, it looks like the db is kind of made to be used from sparql
<Wizzup> like you can get a list of all the 'songs' but then you just get ids of the songs, so you still need to join it to other things based on the type
<freemangordon> exactly
<freemangordon> seems mafw is already using some rdf queries
<freemangordon> not sure current tracker supports that though
<maxwelld> freemangordon, there is very rare issue with kbd input on gtk. very rare. sometimes i type armenian, then go back to the program (any) and i see only commas are printed, and instead of other keys - whitespaces. then i do the same again, and no whitespaces - everything is correct.
<freemangordon> maxwelld: maybe open an issue, with a steps to repro
<maxwelld> yeah, just very hard to repro. i don't understand when it happens.
<maxwelld> it happens in rare situations. one of 20 maybe.
<freemangordon> still
<maxwelld> okay!
<Wizzup> freemangordon: hm?
<freemangordon> see the page title
<Wizzup> ah
<Wizzup> heh
<freemangordon> we also have "Maemo Feeds Ontology (MFO)"
<Wizzup> yeah so RDF I don't think will work anymore
<Wizzup> but I think with their examples we can pretty easily port
<Wizzup> pretty much everything is covered there it looks like
<freemangordon> we have to find replacement for tracker_metadata_get_unique_values_with_aggregates_async
<Wizzup> hm
<Wizzup> what does this even do?
<freemangordon> maybe tracker_sparql_connection_query_async
<freemangordon> no idea what it does, but looks like it executes RDF query
<freemangordon> tracker_metadata_get_unique_values_with_aggregates_async seems to do dbus call
<freemangordon> Wizzup: see in tests
<Wizzup> ok
<jk_000> Wizzup: sorry for the late replay. it is a cable mouse
<jk_000> ... would bluetooth mouse be faster? o.O
<Wizzup> jk_000: no, it wouldn't
<Wizzup> how slow is slow?
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<uvos__> mouse is really slow on d4
<uvos__> you can see this with ts too but it also occures with a mouse
<uvos__> problem dosent exist on wayland
<uvos__> so its some x issue, maybe how the cursor is drawn, i dont think the cursor uses hwaccel/tiler to render the sprite on omapddx
<uvos__> so x is presumably drawing it in software
<uvos__> this has allways been the case
<Wizzup> I see
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<dsc_> tmlind: have never used omweather, this weather application is just something I made up, from scratch
<dsc_> i did borrow the icons from omweather ;))
<dsc_> (the weather icons)
<jk_000> Wizzup: if I move the mouse slowly, the pointer comes along ok. if I move the mouse fast, like in circles, then it can lag many turns. the more turns I do the more turns that stay clot in the pipiline hehe I don't have a mouse now, but if I do 5 quick circles, at least two happen after I let go of the mouse
<Wizzup> understood, sounds like what uvos__ describes
<jk_000> usb keyboard typing is at normal speed... this is so close to convergence!!! :D and from a droid4 from 2012 !!
<jk_000> oh! so there is a leste-wayland coming?! :D
<dsc_> `apt install -y systemd`
<Wizzup> jk_000: not for years I think @ wayland
<Wizzup> but we can fix the X cursor
<jk_000> hehe :P
<jk_000> nice! the mouse+keybord+HDMI make the droid4 very, very special!
<dsc_> jk_000: its like a small pocket PC :)
<jk_000> dcs_: and born in 2012!
<jk_000> ... is there a way to turn off the wlan-athena on the droid 4? would that save battery-life?
<sicelo> i guess `ip link set wlan0 down && modprobe -r wl1273` is as aggressive as it gets. anyway, wlan chip is well-behaved wrt. power savings
<jk_000> sicelo: I see, so it stops scanning if the device is idle?
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<sicelo> yes it won't scan if it's down and has no driver (at least shouldn't) :-D
<jk_000> hehe yeah, that is after the modprobe -r, but w/o it?
<jk_000> if the host device is powered on, there is this urban knowledge that the wlan-anthenas zap battery searching for possible connections
<sicelo> i don't have my d4 around ... so maybe test for yourself and report back to us? :
<jk_000> I'll ceck, but ... how do I measure how much energy the wlan-chip uses? with powertop?
<jk_000> would maemo-leste work on a standard pc with devuan? w/o qemu, directly on the hardware?
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<Wizzup> it could probably, might not be a great experience
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<buZz> jk_000: measure all current with wifi on, measure all current with wifi off? :D
<buZz> Wizzup: it -is- something i'd like to try out for a while, find some touchscreen laptop/tablet/computer and run leste as a desktop experience
<Wizzup> just keep in mind you have to physically press your PCs power button to have the screen unlock ;)
<buZz> hahaha, yes :D
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<uvos__> dsc_: really awsome, im looking forward to having a proper weather app
<uvos__> Wizzup: buZz: jk_000: i added support to mce for changeing the "power button" to anything quite a while back
<uvos__> so you can just bind it to f12 or something
<uvos__> its in mce.ii
<buZz> ooo nice, in mce.ini?
<uvos__> yes
<buZz> right, cool
<buZz> i wonder if we might need some more indepth articles on wiki about all those subsystems
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<dsc_> uvos__: :)
<jk_000> this all sounds great to me!! ^__^
<jk_000> I guess I'd just have to add the leste-repositories to my devuan machine and install hildon?
<jk_000> then pray
<buZz> pray a lot
<buZz> :D
<buZz> jk_000: but yeah, that should/could be a route
<buZz> there's also something on https://leste.maemo.org/Virtual_Machine
<buZz> about converting to raw for real hw
<jk_000> buZz: nice, I'll have a look
<Wizzup> there is a bit more to it than adding the repos, but not much
<Wizzup> (I think)
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<jk_000> I'll see if work+family life gives me some time to test that :)
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<Wizzup> :)
<freemangordon> Wizzup: I can;t grok that spqrql :(
<freemangordon> how to get a property of an object?
<freemangordon> like:
<freemangordon> Results:
<freemangordon> urn:uuid:7f9775c0-32bb-4188-8a25-654a066371d4
<freemangordon> user@devuan:~/git/mafw-tracker-source$ tracker sparql -q "SELECT ?pl {?pl a nmm:Playlist}"
<freemangordon> ok, how to get 'nie:url' of that playlist?
<freemangordon> oh
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<freemangordon> tracker sparql -q "SELECT ?pl ?url {?pl a nmm:Playlist ;nie:url ?url.}"
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