<Wizzup> freemangordon: ok we have a working dh-python in chimaera-devel
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<freemangordon> Wizzup: no idea about PA, if you think we shall disable that, just do it
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<freemangordon> I just don;t know what is the issue with having pulseaudio-enable-autospawn enabled
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<arno11> Wizzup: sorry. have just few min
<arno11> to record at 4000 and loopback use:
<arno11> arecord -vvvv -f S16_LE -r 4000 - | aplay -
<arno11> it's exactly what cmt_speech is doing
<arno11> if it doesn't work check if microphone enable in alsamixer
<arno11> select default card to get pulseaudio microphone settings
<arno11> and check default.pa and daemon.conf settings according to my email
<arno11> oh and i forgot
<arno11> press tab to see capture settings in alsamixer
<arno11> have to go ttyl
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<Wizzup> aris that with PA?
<Wizzup> er
<Wizzup> arno11: is that with PA?
<Wizzup> freemangordon: I don't know what the best way to disable it is
<freemangordon> ok, we'll find one. but, could you explain why it has to be disabled?
<Wizzup> if we restart pulseaudio, any program will start its own pa
<Wizzup> and then the restart of system pa fails
<Wizzup> it's really annoying
<Wizzup> this is normally disabled, but this init service sets it to enabled
<Wizzup> summary is, you don't want this if you have a system wide pa
<freemangordon> ok
<freemangordon> but, isn;t it better to start user PA?
<freemangordon> or you don;t want to do that now
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<Wizzup> freemangordon: I don't think it would be, why would we want to change that now?
<freemangordon> ok, just asking
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<arno11> Wizzup: yes with PA
<arno11> it will probably not working without custom asound.state
<arno11> (most alsa mixers must be disable and other levels must be adjusted)
<arno11> (to hear a clear sound)
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<Wizzup> ok
<Wizzup> can you share your asound state?
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<arno11> Wizzup: yes sure
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<arno11> Wizzup: email sent to your mailbox
<arno11> with that file it should work
<Wizzup> arno11: it might be worth making some asound state snapshots on fremantle in a few states:
<Wizzup> 1. call on earpiece
<Wizzup> 2. call on hp
<Wizzup> 3. call on speaker
<Wizzup> 4. music on earpiece
<Wizzup> 5. music on hp
<Wizzup> 6. music on speaker
<Wizzup> I guess there's also hp with mic, but yeah
<arno11> yes indeed !
<freemangordon> and BT also :)
<arno11> oh yeah
<Wizzup> bt might be more complicated, but yes
<Wizzup> in any case we can use those to make UCM2 perhaps
<arno11> for BT iirc we must modify default.pa but it s possible
<Wizzup> It might be more complicated for calls, but who knows
<Wizzup> I'd recommend we try to get a basic UCM and then work from there
<Wizzup> but we can mix in bt right away I suppose..
<arno11> mmm interetsting challenge
<Wizzup> in my experience it is much better to do this step by step
<Wizzup> since our audio setup is very different from fremantle
<Wizzup> and the n900 is already really complex
<arno11> indeed...
<Wizzup> but if you're up for making some captures, then capturing BT as well might not hurt
<arno11> no probs
<arno11> captures could be really long to do but i should find a trick
<Wizzup> hm, how so?
<Wizzup> what would take particularly long?
<arno11> in fact not long
<Wizzup> I think you can ssh in and use amixer to dump all settings somehow
<Wizzup> I mean the state file is also useful, but amixer too IIRC
<arno11> i was thinking of making a copy of each state directly from fremantle ssh or not
<arno11> anyway not complicated
<Wizzup> I don't think the state file gets written in raltime
<Wizzup> just on reboot
<arno11> arghh ok
<Wizzup> there is alsactl dump-state, but I am not sure if that is in fremantle
<Wizzup> anyway maybe we need to get some input from others before trying it
<Wizzup> just to make sure it's done the right way
<arno11> not a bad idea lol
<arno11> have to go. LMK if you get 4000hz sound. ttyl
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<freemangordon> Wizzup: could you tell me what rc-status off gives on your d4?
<Wizzup> sec
<Wizzup> freemangordon: ^
<freemangordon> ok, why are alarmd and clockd there?
<freemangordon> not to say I have 20 services on off state :D
<Wizzup> no idea
<freemangordon> no wonder my device reboots in 70 seconds
<freemangordon> on VM I have only the first 5 from your list
<freemangordon> we have to check how it is on images
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<sicelo> Wizzup: "mix in bt" ? bt doesn't work on N900
<freemangordon> in fremantle
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<freemangordon> Wizzup: is it normat that I see login prompt on my d4 during boot?
<Wizzup> freemangordon: on tty? yeah
<Wizzup> sicelo: on fremantle
<freemangordon> Wizzup: why I don;t see it in the VM?
<buZz> we could not start ttys, i think?
<buZz> to save some memory and resources, minimal though
<bencoh> saving on getty processes? hmm
<buZz> anything we dont have to start is ~some time saved, i assume
<Wizzup> freemangordon: async boot
<freemangordon> hmm
<freemangordon> ok
<freemangordon> 33s for power off, waaaaay better
<freemangordon> :)
<freemangordon> Wizzup: when do you plan to move things from -devel?
<freemangordon> also, where is this "backports_jobs"?
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<freemangordon> ok, tp-gabble is fixed
<Wizzup> freemangordon: in debian_glue
<Wizzup> freemangordon: we can move it tonight or tomorrow?
<freemangordon> yeah, found it, but it was another issue
<freemangordon> dh-python was in -devel, not in -stable
<Wizzup> yes
<freemangordon> I built it for -stable
<Wizzup> mhm
<Wizzup> back a bit later
<freemangordon> ok
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<buZz> something broke on updates here, seemingly X doesnt love the missing consoles :)
<freemangordon> hmm?
<freemangordon> buZz: did you upgrade everything from -devel?
<buZz> should be, the repos are in /etc/apt/ and i just did update; upgrade
<freemangordon> or, did you modify some of the init scripts?
<buZz> not consiously :D
<freemangordon> well...
<buZz> i'll grab my SD card i guess?
<buZz> or, maybe just try to boot a second time
<freemangordon> should not make any difference
<buZz> oh , emergency shell ofcrz
<freemangordon> may I have the contents of /etc/init.d/xorg
<buZz> 15:44:38 < freemangordon> Wizzup: is it normat that I see login prompt on my d4 during boot?
<buZz> ^ i didnt on last boot btw
<freemangordon> also, the version of xorg
<buZz> it was just a blinking cursor top left, until X started
<freemangordon> hmm
<buZz> oh, i remember adding 'quiet' to cmdline in /boot , dont think thats it though
* freemangordon dist-upgrades his n900
<buZz> init.d/xorg is 444 bytes and from april 14 15:10 and here ; https://i.imgur.com/dvZ4Wiz.jpeg
<buZz> :)
<buZz> xserver-xorg is at 7.7+22 , xserver-xorg-core is at 1.20.11.4-1+m7
<buZz> i think these are mixed repos? first has 1: , second has 2: , not sure how i can see which repo is which
<freemangordon> xserver-xorg 1:7.7+22
<freemangordon> xserver-xorg-core 2:1.20.11.4-1+m7
<freemangordon> that's okj
<buZz> alright, seems similar yeah
<freemangordon> you have changed something else
<freemangordon> do you have hildon-meta installed?
<buZz> 2.4+m7
<buZz> also hildon-meta-droid4 , same version
<buZz> according to /dev i have 64 ttys? :D
<freemangordon> do you have xserver-xorg-legacy installed by chance?
<buZz> its marked 'rc' , not 'ii' , i think that means residual configs?
<freemangordon> mhm
<buZz> 2:1.20.11.3-1+m7
<buZz> its a different version from -core
<freemangordon> maybe try to purge it
<freemangordon> could be that it starts xorg as root
<buZz> alright, gone, i'll sync and reboot?
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<buZz> i'll go do that :)
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<buZz> yezz, that fixed it :)
<freemangordon> good
<freemangordon> btw, how did you enter that rescue console?
<buZz> its in my boot menu?
<buZz> oh, i had to enter root passwd to enter it, but i changed that a while ago to something i actually knew :P
<buZz> although i kinda assume root:toor
<freemangordon> hmm, I have to check if I have such option here
<freemangordon> ah, yes, I have it
<buZz> just 'softlevel=recovery'
<buZz> :)
<buZz> i was adding 'quiet' earlier in an attempt to get plymouth working on d4
<buZz> but couldnt even get it to display any single image whatsoever, not sure what i'm doing wrong but lost interest
<buZz> i do think 'eventually' leste should get some slightly prettier boot :)
<freemangordon> right
<freemangordon> shutdown as well
<buZz> yeah, plymouth could be a route to that
<freemangordon> BTW, what is your timezone?
<freemangordon> because I want to continue work on cal applet
<freemangordon> not now though
<buZz> CEST, netherlands
<buZz> but, my rhythm is srsly all over the place ;)
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<buZz> freemangordon: just hilight me when you want to work on it :)
<freemangordon> ok
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<bencoh> I agree with pretty boot/shutdown, but then we should have an easy way to switch to verbose, in case something bad happens
<buZz> yeah indeed, afaik plymouth does 'show boot msgs on home key or esc'
<buZz> neither we have ;) but thats low hanging fruit
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