06:19 <Oksanaa> Okay. I am tired of trying to get Eclipse to work on Windows 11. So I want to try to get it to run in Linux on Windows. So I see I can import any distro: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/use-custom-distro How do I find .tar for Maemo Leste 7?

06:21 <Oksanaa> I reckon, since it's Intel/amd64, I should probably go for https://maedevu.maemo.org/images/virtual-machines/20230423-chimaera/ Anything else would be ARM.

06:29 <Oksanaa> I reckon, if Maemo Leste can run Git, Java and Python, then it can run Eclipse?

06:33 <sicelo> why not just use plain debian/debian? why Leste?

07:04 <Daanct12> ^

07:05 <Daanct12> leste better left on mobile, i dont see why you would run leste on a desktop

07:05 <Daanct12> the UI was never designed for desktop in the first place

09:17 <dsc_> I have a weird issue where my QEMU maemo VM is not registering mouse clicks correctly, as if there is some sort of mouse offset

09:19 <dsc_> Ah, my Ubuntu is set to 200% scale (increased DPI), this is causing this behavior in QEMU

11:02 <buZz> i heard someone that tried leste on a pinephone, and was disappointed at the scale of the UI

11:03 <buZz> and lack of options to make it bigger

11:11 <uvos__> qemu input not scaleing is unrelated to leste

11:11 <uvos__> but yeah leste being gtk2 and gtk2 not scaleing disqualifies leste on any modern device really

11:12 <uvos__> i find xt1602 plenty usable however @720p, 300DPI

11:13 <uvos__> but higer than 300 DPI i would not go

11:15 <dsc_> yes its a qemu (or ubuntu) issue

11:15 <dsc_> or nvidia driver issue, I had so many bugs lately..

11:16 <dsc_> :P

11:29 <buZz> uvos__: maybe we can add a x2 scaling mode without much effort

11:29 <buZz> i mean, not scaling, just doing 'everything x2'

11:30 <buZz> ok i guess thats still scaling

11:41 <uvos__> not really

11:41 <uvos__> yes we can have xorg scale everythin 2x

11:42 <uvos__> but this simply means loosing 3/4 of the effective resolution

11:51 <buZz> uvos__: i ment more like making the theme x2 bigger

11:51 <buZz> titlebars etc

11:56 <uvos__> sure you can do what android did <android 3.0 and have installable pixmaps for eatch dpi

11:56 <uvos__> lots of work however

11:57 <uvos__> might be better to port / rewrite in gtk3

12:01 <buZz> well gtk2 is ded i guess

17:44 <arno11> Wizzup: sicelo: n900 phone calls update: 2G/3G/HSDPA calls are all working both ways but the tricky thing is latency/buffering not working the same way in 2G mode: the latency is so slow that i need to find a way to increase it (to avoid upload distortion, download is fine)...after spent hours to find a solution to decrease it for 3G lol

17:47 <arno11> another small issue is recording not starting always at the right moment when you receive a call.

17:51 <arno11> that's tricky and i'll probably need help i think. (this default is not specific to leste)

17:53 <arno11> I'll send an email to leste ml with all stuff i found soon.

17:57 <arno11> anyway i'm using calls on n900 daily and with average latency/buffering (not perfect) it works at 80-90% compare to my andro phone

18:11 <arno11> freemangordon: if you find a solution to improve 3D accel on n900, you will be a hero :)

19:18 <Wizzup> arno11: great, thank you for the update