<norayr>
will meet a guy who may take some other work for maemo. let's see.
<Wizzup>
norayr: great @ person
<Wizzup>
merry christmas to everyone reading along
<norayr>
yay
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<sunshavi>
merry christmas guys too
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<Wizzup>
uvos: maybe new chimaera udev filters out the hp pin event?
<Wizzup>
will check later today if I remmber
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<freemangordon>
ok, either I am stupid or gdb in chimaera is broken
<freemangordon>
it does not want to set breakpoints in libraries with symbols not stripped
<freemangordon>
not only that, but gdb is happy with "*(int *)NULL = 0;"
<freemangordon>
like, it does not stop there
<freemangordon>
oh
<freemangordon>
I am stupid :)
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<freemangordon>
Wizzup: I think I am more or less ready with SIP plugin, do you have any idea how to test it?
<freemangordon>
like, is there some free SIP provider I can register account with?
<freemangordon>
also, do we have another telepathy manager besides telepathy-haze that supports SIP?
<Wizzup>
freemangordon: sofiasip
<Wizzup>
this is telepathy-rakia
<freemangordon>
ok
<Wizzup>
let me see, good question about testing it, I have one at home I could share with you
<freemangordon>
I guess I'll have to tweak the supported parameters a bit
<freemangordon>
that'd be great (the home one)
<freemangordon>
I will need working audio in the VM, right?
<Wizzup>
keep in mind that calling with it will cost me -some- money, but not a lot ;)
<Wizzup>
so call freely, but not for hours ;)
<freemangordon>
umm, what?
<freemangordon>
why is that?
<Wizzup>
freemangordon: it's connected to a landline
<freemangordon>
oh
<Wizzup>
ofc. sip calls are free
<freemangordon>
ok, but initially I would like to test pure sip calls
<Wizzup>
ok, I think you'll need a second account for that then, right?
<Wizzup>
(also we have nothing that handles tp audio channels atm)
<freemangordon>
not really, empathy works
<Wizzup>
btw, my modem at home also does sip, so I could make accounts there for testing (I can do that myself)
<freemangordon>
anyway, going on a ride, ttyl
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<xmn>
Merry Christmas to all my linux nerds!!
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<norayr>
sooo under chimaera does droid4 have sound or not? i used alsamixer, tried to enable everything, but no sound.
<norayr>
also...
<norayr>
i upgraded pinephone to chimaera, but it only has 5.15.68
<norayr>
is that normal?
<norayr>
and the keyboard handling only got worse after upgrade: before i could type '-' wih left alt (or fn?) + 7, now it is not possible. left alt or fn trigger something weird.
<norayr>
but under pmos right alt + 7 should be used.
<norayr>
i think i need to find some tool (not xev) which would make it easier to make the xkb map.
<Wizzup>
norayr: working on it @ d4 snd
<Wizzup>
sorry afk atm, guests
<norayr>
good, i just wanted to know if it should work or not.
<dsc_>
norayr: am wondering how to create the git repo for it
<dsc_>
would pathie be a git submodule as `src/` ?
<norayr>
oh i just use local repos, i do git init and the i work
<dsc_>
or do we literally fork their repo and, while retaining the git history, we add some .deb package related files
<dsc_>
(im talking about solely pathie now)
<norayr>
then when i see the code builds and dpkg-buildpackage generates a package i apply for a repo at maemo-leste-extras/bugtracker
<dsc_>
sure
<norayr>
so i would fork their repo yes, then work on it in the vm or on device
<dsc_>
gotcha
<dsc_>
I can manage creating a .deb, I was just wondering if it should be a git submodule or we fork theirs
<dsc_>
suppose submodule doesnt make a lot of sense ^^
<dsc_>
(as the paths will be weird)
<dsc_>
alright.
<norayr>
oh, you mean a dependency? i think ideally the dependency that is not present in chimaera should be packaged as a separate package. if i got right what you say.
<dsc_>
No, I mean that
<norayr>
but once i had ho copy the code to my package, because beowulf (back then) had the same package but outdated version, and i needed the more modern version so i linked it statically to the binary in my package.
<dsc_>
my question: should I vendor pathie as a submodule into `src/` if I were to create my own repo
<norayr>
but now when moved to chimaera i noticed it builds with chimaera package sa i removed copy pasted code from my git.
<norayr>
pathie is a dependency to your project right?
<dsc_>
no, forget about the dependency :)
<norayr>
i think ideally no, you create a package for pathie.
<dsc_>
yes I am talking about creating a package for pathie
<norayr>
nd i think the builder won't like nhe submodule
<norayr>
the builder doesn't want to download code at the time of the build
<norayr>
i believe
<dsc_>
ic
<dsc_>
makes sense
<norayr>
so the easy way would be to add the code by copy pasting and hacking the build scripts but the better way is creating a separate package for a dependency.
<Wizzup>
dsc_: if it is a dep I can help get it in
<dsc_>
Wizzup: I should fork their repo right
<dsc_>
and then work on-top of that
<dsc_>
(as opposed to submodule)
<dsc_>
just confirming
<norayr>
i don't understand what you work on. the code you fork is a dependency of your project? or it is your project?
<norayr>
in both cases you fork
<Wizzup>
dsc_: typically if a dep is not in debian, then we make a repo for it in maemo-leste-upstream-forks
<Wizzup>
if you want to static build it, that might be possible, but not sure if it works with submodules, I think it might.
<dsc_>
norayr: the fact `pathie` is a dependency of another project is irrelevant I think, my question is specifically about how to create the git repository for any preparation related to the inclusion of pathie into maemo-leste as a system library
<dsc_>
and yes, after the `pathie` package is finished, my project can start using it ^^
* Wizzup
got some bt headphones and bt keyboards :)
<Sabellus>
Hi! I put maemo leste on the N900, I have a keyboard with Russian. I enabled it by setxkbmap ru. Now I can switch languages ctrl+space. But this only works in system applications from the maemo leste repository, for example in leafpad. In telegram-desktop, geany language switching does not work. How do I set this up for all apps?
<Sabellus>
There is not even a notification about switching the language, in the same telegram
<Wizzup>
do you get the notification in the maemo programs?
<Sabellus>
Yes, everything works in the calendar or contacts app
<Wizzup>
interesting, could you describe how you set this up, because we had people who had problems with this in the past
<Wizzup>
it is possible that hildon-input-method (h-i-m) integration is somehow necessary for this switching to occur, although that would surprise me just a little bit
<Wizzup>
if you switch in leafpad, does it remain switched for say geany?
<Sabellus>
In telegrams, by the way, the arrows begin to work as needed. In the Russian layout, two arrows on the fn button are combined, it works. But switching the language is not
<Wizzup>
ok, so it sounds like the switching occurs, but you cannot change the language from non-maemo apps
<Wizzup>
that's plausible, and something we probably ought to fix
<Wizzup>
Sabellus: would you be willing to write up a bug report for this?
<Sabellus>
Hmm, I haven't tried geany. But I changed the language in the terminal and launched telegram-desktop. In other words, I entered a command, changed the language, pressed enter and still got the English layout
<Wizzup>
oh, so you -do not- get the russian layout in telegram?
<Wizzup>
(in any case)
<Sabellus>
I get a layout specific to my device. In other words, all the special characters are in the right places. The arrows work as needed. It looks as if the English layout is taken automatically and it cannot be changed
<Sabellus>
Yes, indeed, let me write a detailed bug report, attach a video and all my actions. It will be much clearer this way :)
<Wizzup>
that would be very appreciated and will go a long way to getting it fixed for every app
<Wizzup>
do you know where to file an issue?
<Sabellus>
Github? Right? On this platform , I just found a tip about setxkbmap ru to change the language in the maemo app