00:42 <buZz> curious that BT triggers it this much then

11:00 <Wizzup> JFYI I've changed the jenkins build triggers for the chimaera images not to run right now, since the images would override the beowulf onces (they're just a dir with a date)

11:06 <Wizzup> tmlind: btw I have mz609 here now, let me know if you'd like me to test something, kexecboot or otherwise

11:26 <freemangordon> why the hell gparted requires elogind?!?

11:28 <Wizzup> freemangordon: everything goes at this point, lol

11:28 <Wizzup> s/goes/does/

11:29 <freemangordon> ok, but now I am unable to install gparted in chimaera VM

11:30 <Wizzup> sry,g2g

12:46 <Wizzup> freemangordon: probably anything gnome requires elogind at this point

12:49 <uvos> same with kde

12:49 <uvos> untimatly any kde /plamo application depends on elogind

12:55 <freemangordon> so, why do we conflict with it? or, can we do some package to provide it?

12:56 <freemangordon> as what I just heard is that we cannot install 99% of linux gui apps

13:16 <Wizzup> freemangordon: we conflict with it currently since it prevents our x session and our X from working

13:17 <freemangordon> ok, but is there a possible fix?

13:20 <Wizzup> yes

13:20 <Wizzup> uvos is working on this

13:21 <Wizzup> it requires us to have a elogind compatible session and login manager

13:21 <Wizzup> which then also runs our scripts

13:21 <Wizzup> I don't know what the status of this is

14:31 <buZz> fremantle picodrive version is a LOT older , doesnt seem easy to port the maemo stuff from it without rewriting a lot of code :/

14:31 <buZz> i guess 2010->2022 is a long time :P hehe

14:39 <buZz> -maybe- the scaling is portable

14:58 <Wizzup> buZz: didn't say it would come for free ;)

14:59 <buZz> ^_^

15:01 <norayr> oh such a close to heart environment.

15:01 <norayr> such a good terminal which has paste

15:01 <norayr> such a good font rendering.

15:02 <norayr> but the keyboard... i need to create my xkbmap files probably...

15:03 <Wizzup> maybe share it if you make one

15:03 <Wizzup> and careful not to destroy it

15:04 <Wizzup> (like I did)

15:04 <buZz> destroy what? the pinephone?

15:04 <Wizzup> kbd

15:05 <buZz> ah, the addon keyboard

15:05 <buZz> how did you destroy it? :O

15:05 <xmn> your talking about the physical keyboard no?

15:06 <buZz> yeah Wizzup is

15:07 <xmn> yeah

15:14 <norayr> yes, it is easy to corrupt if one tries to change the pp while it is connected to the kbd.

15:14 <norayr> but btw, maybe your kbd is fine.

15:14 <norayr> i found out it needs 5.3V to start charging.

15:15 <norayr> otherwise it doesn't charge.

15:15 <norayr> i have this pine64 charger, it has 5 ports

15:15 <norayr> and it shows how much energy is drawn.

15:15 <norayr> if i connect it to 5.3V port, it gets the charge.

15:15 <norayr> other ports are 5.1V so it is not able to charge.

15:17 <Wizzup> I can try that a bit later, maybe after christmas

16:01 <Wizzup> norayr: you currently still need to hide the qmenu manually

16:01 <Wizzup> in easylist

16:01 <Wizzup> dorian has an exmaple of this

20:31 <norayr> and also i am upgrading the pinephone's maemo.

20:31 <norayr> I'll see. And also the rotation didn't work so far.

20:51 <Wizzup> norayr: what did you set?

20:51 <Wizzup> I don't understand why there is a rotate button, is that to force rotation?

23:04 <rafael2k> for whoever maintains the pp kernel, here is the upstream I was using: https://salsa.debian.org/Mobian-team/devices/kernels/sunxi64-linux

23:04 <rafael2k> latest 5.15 is: https://salsa.debian.org/Mobian-team/devices/kernels/sunxi64-linux/-/tree/mobian-5.15

23:05 <rafael2k> mobian already jumped to 6.1: https://salsa.debian.org/Mobian-team/devices/kernels/sunxi64-linux/-/tree/mobian-6.1

23:05 <rafael2k> I'll forward port my camera patches to kernel mobian's 6.1

23:06 <rafael2k> (for mobian, but maemo can use the the same verbatim kernel is initrd is enabled)

23:06 <rafael2k> *if

23:07 <rafael2k> I'll keep working on libcamera testing / pushing upstream / which might also help maemo-leste.

23:07 <rafael2k> good luck!

23:09 <rafael2k> I wish this was an open project, but unfortunately I found the opposite. Good funding... I keep cheering for you, but as I can not be a member, I'm put my efforts in the sister Mobian project. No heart feelings. I hope you don't break ofono nor telephony in the kernel. : )

23:48 <Wizzup> I'm sure they'll import random .deb files

23:52 <rafael2k> don't worry, the phone rings when there is an incoming call!

23:53 <Wizzup> you're being ridiculous and it makes me very sad