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<buZz> lol exciting new weirdness; disconnecting charger crashes the modem? :P
<buZz> @ d4
<uvos> Wizzup: mb810 is a d2 with no keyboard
<Wizzup> uvos: check, sholes then
<uvos> Wizzup: ie late sholes
<Wizzup> buZz: dmesg?
<buZz> obviously, when trying to reproduce, it doesnt happen, might depend on bat voltage?
<uvos> sholes with no keyboard is kinda an oxymoron
<uvos> considering its clearly named after christoper sholes
<buZz> 1moment Wizzup
<buZz> i havent found the clear path to reproduce, but usb disconnect seems to trigger it somewhat? also i now get the popup for USB data when i connect to a USB charger, but again, not all the time
<Wizzup> buZz: this is 90 seconds in, isn't this just the first probe?
<Wizzup> oh I see the unregister
<Wizzup> at least it comes back
<Wizzup> that's an improvement
<buZz> oooo, i have a hunch
<buZz> maybe theres some short in my usb connector :P
<Wizzup> oof
<buZz> aha! there was some ... undefinied material inside, guess it made the charger look like a usb cable
<buZz> but, that raises the question, does the usbmodem disconnect when we switch usbmodes?
<Wizzup> yes, the modem is on usb and doing nasty stuff to the usb port can cause issues afaik
<buZz> nasty stuff like switching usbgadget modes?
<buZz> because i think something in maemo does that by itself?
<buZz> s/\?//
<Wizzup> I don't think usb gadgets affect it
<buZz> hmhm, well since i cleaned the socket out with compressed 'air' and some pointy piece of PLA, the problem seems gone
<buZz> :)
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<Wizzup> insserv: Default-Start undefined, assuming empty start runlevel(s) for script `clockd'
<Wizzup> insserv: Default-Stop undefined, assuming empty stop runlevel(s) for script `clockd'
<Wizzup> that seems like a problem
<Wizzup> maybe we do need our insserv
<Wizzup> looks like it, fixed now
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<Wizzup> ok, we have patched insserv
<Wizzup> apparently it's fixed in 1.22
<Wizzup> chimaera is 1.21
<Wizzup> ok, at least we don't need it for chimaera+1
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<Wizzup> I saw some linking problems with some dsme libs though
<freemangordon> hmm
<freemangordon> Wizzup: we shall remove symbols hack from sgx package
<freemangordon> Wizzup: installing hildon-meta does not lead to maemo starting h-d, what do I miss?
<freemangordon> this is in my chimaera VM
<freemangordon> ugh
<freemangordon> I guess that was because half of the services were not installed properly because of insserv :(
<freemangordon> after reinstalling maemo-system-services it boots to h-d
<freemangordon> but, localisation is broken
<Wizzup> freemangordon: you needed the insserv fix yeah
<Wizzup> freemangordon: yes, you need locale.gen like in image
<Wizzup> freemangordon: you can download the above imgg
<freemangordon> yes, but I wanted to try what will happen in the VM
<Wizzup> freemangordon: if you look at image-builder there is a command there to create locale.gen info
<Wizzup> just a sec I'll get it to you
<freemangordon> why don't we do that as part of hildon-meta (or some other package) postinst?
<freemangordon> thanks
<freemangordon> have to run now, will look at it later
<Wizzup> I suppose we could, not sure
<Wizzup> apt-cache search hildon-common-strings-l10n | grep -v mr0 | awk -F'[()]' '{printf "%s.UTF-8 UTF-8\n", \$2}' >> /etc/locale.gen
<Wizzup> freemangordon: ^^
<Wizzup> uvos: so lacking for chimaera atm is (1) hildon-application-manager and (2) iio-sensor-proxy, I want to try to build a d4 image today, shall I look at the compile fail if you're busy?
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<Wizzup> uvos: I suppose bullseye has some iio-sensor-proxy
<Wizzup> so it might just work
<Wizzup> (the build)
<Wizzup> freemangordon: I wonder what happens if we make hildon-meta a pkg that is visible in ham, will it display upgrades if any of the dependencies of it require updating?
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<Wizzup> dsme linking problem is fixed
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<buZz> do we have the proximity sensor on d4 working aswell?
<freemangordon> Wizzup: we alreay have h-s-m applet for system upgrades
<buZz> and i keep hitting that usb issue :/ not really convinced its just my usb plug
<buZz> mostly on 'wobbles' of charge cable, charge led flashes and poof, modem gone
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<buZz> also then the 'pc suite' popup comes
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<Wizzup> freemangordon: how do we activate it?
<Wizzup> freemangordon: it triggers only when certain packages get upgrades
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<sicelo> buZz: yes, proximity sensor is working on d4. whether it's hooked to something, i don't know
<sicelo> and for the usb/pc-suite, dmesg might tell you what's happening
<buZz> that shows it happening, somehow the charger gets seen as usb data and stuff gets triggered
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<buZz> hmm, gonna try adding a usbcondom, maybe its just this specific charger
<buZz> *wobbles* doesnt seem to disconnect thusfar :P
<uvos> proximity sensor works on all devices except n900 and is hooked up in mce/sphone for blanking calls (at least)
<uvos> Wizzup: ill do it in 2h
<Wizzup> uvos: ok, I'm almost done with ham meanwhile
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<Wizzup> freemangordon: I'm stuck on ham with one error I don't get, but it also looks like they made debSystem::debSystem() private, which we inherit from, so that's a royal pain
<Wizzup> they did this to override the lock behaviour
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<Wizzup> I don't understand how this comparison between aptCache::Package and Index of P ever worked
<freemangordon> Wizzup: will have a look later on
<Wizzup> freemangordon: with that one piece commented out 'it works', as in, I installed the Tor support for Maemo just now
<Wizzup> but who knows how it breaks
<Wizzup> at least maybe the mydebSystem might not be necessary
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<uvos> Wizzup: ok we can cross iio-s-p off the list
<uvos> Wizzup: oh and we can cross libsdl1.2 off the list too we dont use/need any of the patches there
<uvos> i would also kick gl4es out of the core repo
<uvos> and move it extras
<Wizzup> uvos: ok, and agreed
<Wizzup> cpio: write error: No space left on device
<Wizzup> argh
<uvos> well getting close
<Wizzup> yeah
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<Wizzup> this run ought to succeed then
<Wizzup> can't get a gps fix yet on the d4
<Wizzup> well, with chimaera
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<uvos> hmm so something about installing the hildon meta package breaks tinydm (and also lightdms) ability to spawn xorg as user
<uvos> (and also it breaks dbus, but thats expected conisering what af-services dose)
<Wizzup> uvos: our x pkg has elogind disabled, maybe this is the problem
<uvos> ah yes probubly
<Wizzup> uvos: and our old hildon-meta (but not current) would I think conflict with elogind
<uvos> its current
<uvos> elogind is there
<uvos> but the new x package very likely breaks it
<uvos> why must we disable elogind?
<Wizzup> uvos: I think it has adverse effects if you don't have elogind
<uvos> ok
<uvos> is there a good way ensure a package from a repo is ignored?
<uvos> ie that update dosent install xorg from madevu
<uvos> *upgrade
<Wizzup> I think you can just install it by veresion
<Wizzup> version
<Wizzup> are you testing this in a vm or d4?
<uvos> vm
<uvos> d4 is different problem
<Wizzup> it might be easier to just revert952c00ba0dcbb57c03e8ec0693850d0c02aa43ec and rebuild xorg-server then
<Wizzup> it only takes a few mins
<Wizzup> but if you search for 'apt install specific version' I am sure it will tell you
<Wizzup> also I think apt-get install -t <repo name for devuan/debian> might work somehow
<Wizzup> not sure how it works exactly, but I know you can pin by version for sure,