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how do you install openmediaplayer? It is on the extras Github but I have tried multiple combinations of apt search and grep (as well as simply apt install openmediaplayer and omp, of course)
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missMyN900 >
and it just does not seem to be in the repos (I have devel enabled as well)
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missMyN900 >
I would like to test it, even if it is not completely finished yet
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Wizzup >
missMyN900: openmediaplayer is not ported yet
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Wizzup >
missmyN900: is requires more work
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dsc_ >
freemangordon: hi
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dsc_ >
so composing a new message from our messaging app (conversations), I would render a contact selection screen - where do I get this info from do you reckon
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dsc_ >
this info = a list of contacts
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dsc_ >
would conversations be able to include a library that is also used by the address book application?
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dsc_ >
(and thus being able to call e.g: `getContacts()`)
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dsc_ >
is there a `osso-abook.h` ? :P
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Wizzup >
of course, it's gtk
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dsc_ >
sphone is, or osso-abook is? (or both? :P)
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dsc_ >
suppose both
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Wizzup >
sphone is just our dialer
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dsc_ >
libosso-abook
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Wizzup >
shouldn't be a problem, other nokia apps also support abook in some ways
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Wizzup >
uvos: should we add a 3rd profile in the ucm, for ip calls?
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uvos__ >
dsc_: if you just need conacts, osso-abook gets those from eds
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uvos__ >
sphone also directly uses eds (apart from using this dialog)
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uvos__ >
sphone allows using qt and gtk in the same app
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uvos__ >
this isent hard as the qt main loop uses a glib main loop internaly on linux
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uvos__ >
you could do the same thing
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uvos__ >
Wizzup: maybe, deffinatly also one for alarms
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uvos__ >
humpelstilzchen[: so dose this happen outside of leste too (hang on crust resume)
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uvos__ >
humpelstilzchen[: how are you waking the devcie?
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humpelstilzchen[ >
uvos__: Waking it up with power Button, it is registered as wakeup: /sys/devices/platform/soc/1f03400.rsb/sunxi-rsb-3a3/axp221-pek/wakeup
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humpelstilzchen[ >
uvos__: what do you mean with outside of leste? With another Linux Distribution? Have not tested that
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uvos__ >
humpelstilzchen[: could you run evtest on the input device with the power button while you suspend and resume?
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uvos__ >
humpelstilzchen[: right
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humpelstilzchen[ >
so you want "evtest /dev/input/by-path/platform-1f03400.rsb-platform-axp221-pek-event" with suspend & resume?
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uvos__ >
plase go into /etc/mce/mce.ini
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uvos__ >
and set PowerKeyLongAction to disabled
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uvos__ >
and reboot
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uvos__ >
and try to repoduce the hang
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humpelstilzchen[ >
ok, but that test will take some time, because the crash did not happen very often.
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uvos__ >
just use it for a while
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humpelstilzchen[ >
I would give the test a week or so
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buZz >
i wish contacts would work nicer with the sphone software
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buZz >
so i could add contacts from SMS i received
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Wizzup >
uvos__: right @ alarms
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Wizzup >
uvos__: how would the alarm be different, speaker always?
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Wizzup >
buZz: this will come
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Wizzup >
buZz: but sms won't go through sphone
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buZz >
yeah through telepathy?
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uvos__ >
Wizzup: different volume
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freemangordon >
dsc_: hi
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freemangordon >
there should be dbus interface for that already
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freemangordon >
if not, we'll have to implement one
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* freemangordon
checks how it is done on fremantle
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uvos__ >
also speaker allways yeah
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Wizzup >
freemangordon: dbus interface for abook?
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freemangordon >
yes
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freemangordon >
it already supports some stuff
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Wizzup >
hm, really, I thought we'd just load libosso-abook
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freemangordon >
Wizzup: yes, that's another option
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freemangordon >
but it seems it is not implemented
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freemangordon >
I think we need "open_group" maybe
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Wizzup >
I think we probably don't want it that way either, ideally we'd just re-use some widget and load it on top of our app
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Wizzup >
I mean ideally we have qt bindings but yeah :)
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freemangordon >
Wizzup: sure there is a widget
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Wizzup >
yeah sphone uses it
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freemangordon >
no, it is different
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freemangordon >
IIUC
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freemangordon >
also, you need to embed gtk in qt
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freemangordon >
which is bad from the architectural POV IMO
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Wizzup >
well, we do want to use abook code and not reimplement more of our own IMO
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Wizzup >
we already had to kind of reimplement the rtcom ui lib
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Wizzup >
which is a shame
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freemangordon >
that's why dbus is better
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freemangordon >
you just call it and you'll receive the contact to start conversation with
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Wizzup >
I don't think it's that simple
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freemangordon >
it is
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Wizzup >
for all of these things we need abook
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Wizzup >
also to resolve our message list, match them to abook contacts
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freemangordon >
but it is already there
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Wizzup >
render the names of the contacts if they change
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Wizzup >
it looks to me like rtcom, telepathy and abook all need to work together here
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freemangordon >
ok, but this in not UI
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freemangordon >
*is not
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freemangordon >
sure
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Wizzup >
I mean, so we could have a dialog over dbus for picking a contact
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Wizzup >
but all the other stuff would still need libosso-abook
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freemangordon >
agree
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Wizzup >
doesn't it just directly depend on gtk2/glib (the lib)?
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freemangordon >
yes, it does
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freemangordon >
htk2/hildon
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freemangordon >
BTW, we can do qt wrapper
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freemangordon >
the same way it is done for file selection dialog
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Wizzup >
yeah, by dlsym'ing some stuff
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Wizzup >
not ideal either
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freemangordon >
but better, is it will be usable by other code as well
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buZz >
oh eh, should i make a issue for the date/time picker in qalendar? it doesnt work as well as the same-looking dialog in 'clock & alarms'
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Wizzup >
I think it just needs some QScroller's
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freemangordon >
maybe qalendar does not use QMaemo5DatePickSelector
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Wizzup >
I think it does, but our qt5 is not patched with maemo scrolling
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Wizzup >
so you need to ensure everything has qscrollers
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Wizzup >
it's just qt working differently
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buZz >
ah, the other one is gtk/htk ?
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buZz >
either way, it works, but its suuuuuch a drag to use it
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buZz >
makes it easy to pick wrong dates/times too
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freemangordon >
we can do the same wrapper for adressbook widgets
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buZz >
not sure if i've seen those
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freemangordon >
"those"?
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buZz >
widgets = rendered on 'homescreen' ?
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buZz >
or just widgets as in toolkit buttons etc
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Wizzup >
freemangordon: in general I think we need to plan on how we plan to support gtk2 and qt5 both 'properly'
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freemangordon >
yes, "toolkit things"
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freemangordon >
Wizzup: agree
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Wizzup >
like if anyone wants to do deal with contacts and they have to dlsym gtk stuff in it, we need some better solutions
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freemangordon >
I think we shall follow what nokia already did
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Wizzup >
and making conversations in gtk2 is not doable because there is no modern webkit for it, so we could do gtk3 but aaaah :)
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having a hard time with 'widgets' 'applet' 'statusmenu' difference in terms in maemo ;)
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Wizzup >
freemangordon: which is?
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buZz: status menu is the thing that shows wifi battery etc, and the applets on it when you touch it
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Wizzup >
buZz: widgets can be many things, but they would be on the desktops typically
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buZz >
Wizzup: yeah but some stuff that renders to statusmenu is called widget?
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Wizzup >
buZz: applets can be applets in status menu, or applets in control panel
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freemangordon >
Wizzup: wrapping gtk in qt as part of maemo5 library
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buZz >
confusing to me anyway :P
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freemangordon: hm, I suppose we can do that if we offer bindings
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Wizzup >
buZz: applet is just a program part of a bigger program
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freemangordon >
what do you mean "bindings"?
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Wizzup >
freemangordon: like QOssoAbook
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freemangordon >
yes, this is the idea
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buZz >
freemangordon: i think thats how it works now? where you scroll to 'outside' with cursor on the pick-list , and -then- it scrolls
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buZz >
instead of like clock&alarms , where you can 'fling' the list , and it will scroll on its own
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Wizzup >
buZz: yes, please file the bug
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buZz >
its in, Wizzup
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Wizzup >
I think one of them has its own implementation of this
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freemangordon >
Wizzup: QMaemo5TimePickSelector wraps hildon_time_selector_new_step()
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freemangordon >
for example
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buZz >
its 2) from clort81 there
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buZz >
his 1) is just theme issues, i think , and 3) is eh , i dont know or care
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freemangordon >
so we can implement QOssoAboocContactChooser that wraps osso_abook_contact_chooser stuff
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buZz >
i dont need 5min recurring items in a agenda :D lol
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freemangordon >
so that way qt application won't need to use gtk
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freemangordon >
well, at least not directly
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Wizzup >
yes, but there is more as well I think, like resolving objects and stuff
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Wizzup >
I'll get with dsc and see what we need, but I think I just want Ui stuff that doesn't do anything so I can work on some of it too )
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freemangordon >
OssoAbookContact inheritys E_CONTACT
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freemangordon >
*inherits
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Wizzup >
ok, so that's relatively easy
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freemangordon >
and E_VCARD, iirc
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checks
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buZz >
Wizzup: spoke to some asian today that was -very- interested in hearing about maemo leste and was considering doing some dev work towards it too
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buZz >
he was gonna investigate and might join channel laterish
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freemangordon >
right, E_CONTACT inherits E_VCARD
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Wizzup >
buZz: great, let him know we have osme devices if he's serious about it
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buZz >
yeah , didnt want to lure with freebies directly ;)
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buZz >
best for true intent to come first
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buZz >
wow, 10? or is that even 2 layers deep?
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buZz >
or even more? :O
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Wizzup >
not even sure anymore
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Wizzup >
been there for 6 months
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buZz >
gee Wizzup , one of these days, -all- existing droid4's might have gone through your hands
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freemangordon >
Wizzup: I'll be MIA till Sunday
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Wizzup >
freemangordon: ok :)
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freemangordon >
so, please have a discussion and if you agree with my plan, I will implement QOssoAbookContactChooser
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freemangordon >
though now I am looking ath the API, maybe it makes sense to just call the API directly
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freemangordon >
oh, wait. it need GtkWindow, qt can provide X Window only, afaik
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freemangordon >
*needs
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freemangordon >
hmm...
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Wizzup >
yeah, this needs some thought
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Wizzup >
meanwhile I will work with dsc to get all the UI stuff sorted out, where we want what buttons, how htings should look
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Wizzup >
then we can worry about implementing some of it
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Wizzup >
ok, 2020 pinetab image boots to display :)
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Wizzup >
quilt is truly a pain
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norayr >
Today whole day i use droid4
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Wizzup >
norayr: nice
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norayr >
Xmpp via pidgin and email app and alpine in terminal for another email
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norayr >
Because of pm it is actually more usable than pp
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norayr >
So no other device. Plus leafpad helped a lot.
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norayr >
I btw ordered droid3
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norayr >
It looks i guess nicer, simpler than d4
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norayr >
So this is cool. Won't take other deices with me. This is my main device from now on.
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missMyN900 >
Wizzup: oh... What does it need? I thought it was a Qt5 app already?
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missMyN900 >
Wizzup: by the way, a while ago uvos said I could install hildon-connectivity-mobile to get a cellular applet for PP, at least on devel
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Wizzup >
will check tomorrow :)
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missMyN900 >
norayr: I see you have a lot of Oberon projects on your GitHub :) Years ago I did a lot of reading about Wirthian languages including Modula-2 and Oberon.
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missMyN900 >
norayr: around that time I also read a lot about microkernels such as L3 and L4
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norayr >
heh very pleasant to hear
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missMyN900 >
I was looking for maemo leste github
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missMyN900 >
and found your lagrange repository
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missMyN900 >
so I had to check out what other projects you had ;)
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norayr >
i'd suggest really use it, especially visdap oberon compiler is ready to use tool
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norayr >
but i need to drive now
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missMyN900 >
yes, I have come across vishap before
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missMyN900 >
ok drive safely :)
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missMyN900 >
I need to formally file some bug reports
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uvos >
that looks like its 3 deep :O
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missMyN900 >
Wizzup is preparing to become the first official Droid 4 dealer in Europe ;)
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uvos >
missMyN900: could you cat /etc/apt/sources.list for us?
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uvos >
also try "apt-get -s -o Debug::pkgProblemResolver=yes install sphone"
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missMyN900 >
uvos: sorry my desktop was offline for a while as I had to borrow its WiFi adapter to set up my new laptop
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missMyN900 >
slightly ot: I am learning the limitations of Alpine as a general purposes OS...
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norayr >
so today i twice had xorg crash on droid4, i was kicked out from x to console.
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norayr >
and twice the device was not responsive for a couple of seconds and then rebooted.
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Wizzup >
I have seen both of these things
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Wizzup >
not sure if the second is X or 3d related
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Wizzup >
the first one is