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<mglbg[m]> I have been fiddling around with ML for a bit now, and it appears that removing the NOPASSWORD: part from /etc/sudoers.d/maemo breaks the app manager. how do you guys feel about that safety wise, and is this a correct observation or did I do some other stuff as well that broke it?
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<uvos> mglbg[m]: that is correct
<Wizzup> mglbg[m]: yeah that is a problem
<uvos> mglbg[m]: you must provide a askpass implmentation
<Wizzup> mglbg[m]: although I think the app manager has it's own specific entry in sudoers AFAIK
<uvos> it dosent work
<uvos> never did
<uvos> i reported this before
<Wizzup> ok, well, we'd need to fix that
<Wizzup> uvos: sorry, didn't remember
<uvos> thers also a bug somewhere
<uvos> in git
<Wizzup> hm
<uvos> i mean a bug report
<uvos> btw did you see the kernel?
<Wizzup> uvos: will fix perms, just woke up
<Wizzup> vi
<uvos> ok i wont be around today
<uvos> maybe just pull from my repo and do a release
<uvos> i hope i dident miss anything
<Wizzup> I will also be with my parents part of the time
<Wizzup> let me give you perms anyway
<uvos> patch wise
<uvos> anyhow i dident test it on n900 yet
<uvos> so we have to do that too
<Wizzup> ok
<Wizzup> we can use -experimental
<Wizzup> nice work on the audio patch, at least starts ofi t
<Wizzup> I was thinking to write to sre/tmlind and the list and see what they think - since sre wrote a lot of the audio stuff (at least per the copyright in the file)
<uvos> he did
<uvos> but the modem audio stuff isent form him
<uvos> (nor is it in mainline)
<uvos> its something tmlind hacked in there
<Wizzup> ok
<Wizzup> mglbg[m]: can you file an issue for this problem? (if it doesn't exist already)
<Wizzup> ty
<Wizzup> I don't think we want to use askpass for this per se if it calls sudo for various things
<Wizzup> right?
<uvos> we def want askpass as a backup
<uvos> also i dont like ham being able to use apt
<uvos> without pw
<uvos> anyhow its not just ham
<uvos> the theme switcher and qutie some other stuff also breaks
<Wizzup> yeah
<uvos> askpass also makes you see all of these
<Wizzup> so which branches do you want me to sync over to droid4-linux, or will you do it?
<uvos> well maemo-5.18 at least
<uvos> if you want he feature branches -516 -518 then those too
<uvos> maemo-5.18 comes to be by merging tmlinds -pending with all of the feature branches
<uvos> (and 5.18.8 stable)
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<bencoh> rafael2k: bayer can be anywhere between 8 and 16, it's often 10b or 12b
<bencoh> it really depends on the sensor and how it was configured
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<Wizzup> what do you think makes the most sense for our -dbgsym packages and h-a-m
<Wizzup> we can either hide them alltogether, or show them only in 'all', or give them a 'debug' section
<Wizzup> I think we should just hide them, no developer will use h-a-m to install the debug symbols imho
<lel> MerlijnWajer closed an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/482 (HAM: Hide (or toggle) dbgsyms)
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<bencoh> Wizzup: yeah, I'd just hide them
<rafael2k> bencoh: right, tks
<rafael2k> took just my pinephone to the weekend (without the keyboard), I was pretty happy to read news and listen you youtube music on the LTE connection, using QT WebBrowser, which has a nice vkb
<rafael2k> btw, good news from camera side, it seems libcamera's gui app, qcam, is closer to working
<rafael2k> aaaand, we have /usr/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/gstreamer-1.0/libgstlibcamera.so
<rafael2k> : )
<rafael2k> so no urgency for chimaera
<rafael2k> I just have some some colorspace conversions to sort out in order qcam start to work... it seems. At least it opens up already and correctly list the cameras.
<bencoh> neat
<rafael2k> just got it working, with fields looking funny in the screen, dunno why I'm getting an error when I set qcam to use gles rending
<rafael2k> *rendering
<rafael2k> hum QXcb in qcam says neither GLX nor EGL is enabled
<rafael2k> we should have some of those right?
<rafael2k> qcam -s pixelformat=YUYV
<rafael2k> it starts, but colorspace conversion is fuck up, funny images on screen
<bencoh> well, if it receives bayer, that's expected
<bencoh> if you really want to render bayer without converting it, you should choose a grayscale pixelformat
<bencoh> (luminance-only, 8b if working with RAW8)
<bencoh> (and 16b if working with RAW10/RAW12, and expect endianness issues)
<rafael2k> writing to libcamera crew... they seem to be interested in supporting us to have it working, lets see
<bencoh> regarding glx/egl, we should support EGL outofthebox (at least a certain version/subset of it)
<rafael2k> indeed, nobody really made libcamera work properly with the PP cameras setup
<rafael2k> right
<rafael2k> btw, can anyone remind me again how to set a volume button to trigger the vkb?
<rafael2k> this is very useful when not having a working keyboard
<rafael2k> btw, anyone wanting to play with libcamera in ML: https://www.abradig.org.br/maemo-crazyness/libcamera/
<rafael2k> these are libcamera packages without any change from upstream (I just set a 0.1 version)
<rafael2k> hopefully soon in our repos
<rafael2k> : )
<rafael2k> I already uploaded my pet repo to https://github.com/maemo-leste-upstream-forks/libcamera
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<rafael2k> btw, libcamera was supposed to convert from bayer to yuyv automatically when I chose a different color spacẹ.. which clearly did not happen - more likely an implementation bug in libcamera
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<rafael2k> QXcbIntegration: Cannot create platform OpenGL context, neither GLX nor EGL are enabled
<rafael2k> hum
<rafael2k> in mobian it seems to work
<rafael2k> I wonder what it could be
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<uvos> rafael2k: try with -platform xcb
<rafael2k> lemme try
<rafael2k> hum, images appear now! but with some crazy swapped fields
<rafael2k> what does it mean this "-platform xcb"
<uvos> uses desktop linux qt
<uvos> instead of maemo qt
<rafael2k> qcam -r gles -spixelformat=SBGGR8,width=1280,height=720 -platform xcb
<rafael2k> fucking shit, it worked!!
<rafael2k> 7 fps for the viewer
<rafael2k> not bad
<rafael2k> : )))
<rafael2k> now we can take pictures with a gui in ML in PP
<rafael2k> : )))
<rafael2k> front camera driver still needs some love (image is a but funny still) but the main rear camera is looking fine!
<dsc_> nice one
<rafael2k> yay!
<rafael2k> tks uvos!
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<rafael2k> but my daughter seems happy with it already
<rafael2k> bencoh: gimme some hint of this type of artifact ^
<bencoh> :]
<bencoh> are you sure it's supposed to be BGGR8?
<bencoh> and are you using the right picture size?
<rafael2k> Now I'm just driving a truck đownstream without breaks
<bencoh> uh
<rafael2k> running "qcam" with all autogatic conversions
<bencoh> oh
<rafael2k> *automagic
<rafael2k> seems to work almost ok, tbh
<bencoh> personally I'd use v4l2 without libcamera, convert it manually using makeDNG+ufraw, check I understand what really happens there, compare with what libcamera does (just to make sure you use the same format)
<rafael2k> no need to go that far, with libcamera "cam" app I can get the "original" raw pictures, which look fine indeed
<rafael2k> using any canonical color conversion tool gives me an output which says the capture side is "ok"
<rafael2k> libcamera "raw" capture seems ok... automagic conversion seems a bit fucked up
<bencoh> ah, I see
<rafael2k> even considering trashy fffmpeg conversion
<rafael2k> I don't see those strange "blocky" patterns I get from qcam
<uvos> pixel format is clearly wrong
<rafael2k> uhum
<uvos> it has less lines
<uvos> probubly be even factor
<rafael2k> I think developers realized that
<rafael2k> trying to push them to fix... as it is clear the error
<rafael2k> hummmm true
<rafael2k> lemme try another res
<rafael2k> anyway, need to sleep, tomorrow I'll try a bit more, but anyway, the packages are up for anyone with a PP willing to try the luck: https://www.abradig.org.br/maemo-crazyness/libcamera/
<rafael2k> with the help of uvos, anyone wanting risk yourself: qcam -r gles -spixelformat=SBGGR8,width=1280,height=720 -platform xcb
<rafael2k> is a starting point
<Wizzup> uvos: will do the kernel now
<Wizzup> rafael2k: great news re: kernel
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<Wizzup> well, re: camera
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<Wizzup> uvos: I need to make the version 5.18.8 instead of 5.18.0 but otherwise it's running atm
<uvos> on what?
<Wizzup> d4 linux for beowulf experimental
<Wizzup> hmm the source build failed
<Wizzup> should I remove the debian/patches ?
<Wizzup> oooh I built the wrong repo
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<Wizzup> drivers/tty/n_gsm.c:726:7: error: implicit declaration of function 'gsmld_output'; did you mean 'neigh_output'? [-Werror=implicit-function-declaration]
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