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<kshatriya> i have spinny opengl-es triangle via SDL2.0, finally ;-;
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<kshatriya> however as soon as libGL.so is relinked, SDL2 uses gl4es instead - despite me setting envvars to specify gles
<kshatriya> export SDL_VIDEO_GLES2=1
<kshatriya> export SDL_VIDEO_GL_DRIVER=libGLESv2.so
<kshatriya> export SDL_HINT_RENDER_DRIVER=opengles2
<kshatriya> ok i got it working
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<kshatriya> still here Wizzup ?
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<uvos> Wizzup: so i managed to get several people to reply on the mz617 files
<uvos> Wizzup: unfortionatly everyone seams to delete files of this kind :(
<uvos> Wizzup: dose twitter have something like a pm system?
<uvos> Wizzup: there would be https://twitter.com/tweetofjohnboy?lang=en still to contact
<uvos> maybe you could do that as maemo-leste
<uvos> also if someone has instagram: you could contact Norman Wayne Kent "nwkent15" who also downloded the files
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<parazyd> uvos: I can send a Twitter msg if you paste the question
<uvos> Hi,
<uvos> Im a dev from the maemo leste team https://maemo-leste.github.io/
<uvos> We are in need of the mbm file(s) (allow-mbmloader-flashing-mbm.bin) for the droid xyboard (MZ617 or MZ615), which we belive is contained in the archive Blur_Version.11.7.279.MZ617.Verizon.en.US. Unfortunately, all links to this archive are dead and as they are signed so we cant reproduce them. You posted on https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/xyboard-official-fastboot-files.1756100/ indicating that you downloaded this file in the past,
<uvos> if you still have a copy of the files posted there please provide them to me.
<uvos> parazyd: ^^^
<uvos> Hi,
<uvos> Im a dev from the maemo leste team https://maemo-leste.github.io/
<uvos> We are in need of the mbm file(s) (allow-mbmloader-flashing-mbm.bin) for the droid xyboard (MZ617 or MZ615), which we belive is contained in the archive Blur_Version.11.7.279.MZ617.Verizon.en.US. Unfortunately, all links to this archive are dead and as they are signed we cant reproduce them. You posted on https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/xyboard-official-fastboot-files.1756100/ indicating that you downloaded this file in the past, if
<uvos> you still have a copy of the files posted there please provide them to me.
<uvos> slightly better
<parazyd> ok
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<Wizzup> uvos: too bad @ mz617, glad you're still on it :)
<Wizzup> uvos: did you see that sigmakey thing? I'll install that after my radiocomm experiments
<uvos> yeah
<uvos> wonder how this works
<uvos> maybe the whole thing is like the password for motorla engeniering tests
<Wizzup> uvos: well it has the algo to generate unlock codes based on IMEI it seems
<uvos> right but they must have the alg. to do this from somewhere
<Wizzup> I uh *cough* found some activators so it works without dongle I think, going to try it
<buZz> :)
<Wizzup> yeah, they seem to get it from everywhere, they probably have people working on that stuff fll time
<Wizzup> get it from everywhere => support everything
<uvos> the pw for engeneering tests on motorola devices is allways 000000 :P
<uvos> btw
<uvos> Wizzup: yeah
<Wizzup> I did try 000000 as unlock code and didn't work
<uvos> Wizzup: yeah not for the modem
<uvos> for the test apps
<Wizzup> right
<uvos> Wizzup: so are planing to decompile the app to find how the generate the code?
<Wizzup> uvos: well, first I will look at radiocomm, then see if I can make the app work without paying, then I will see if the lock code gen works, and then we'll see...
<Wizzup> it works over usb I think to usbip is also possible, set up some cloud instance and people connect their maemo device to it
<Wizzup> uvos: but yes, that makes sense I think
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<Wizzup> well usb passthrough to windows xp is no fun
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<kshatriya> how can i setup usb passthrough?
<Wizzup> ?
<kshatriya> < Wizzup> well usb passthrough to windows xp is no fun << do you know a link to instructions to set up a 'transparent' usb bridge between two devices
<kshatriya> websearch is useless now
<Wizzup> you mean usbip
<Wizzup> just google for that
<Wizzup> and usbredir
<kshatriya> websearch is useless for me
<kshatriya> but usbredir may be helpful ty
<kshatriya> i didn't know you were using a VM
<Wizzup> yes, I just need it for some sw to unlock the d3.
<Wizzup> it's otherwise not related
<kshatriya> in good news, we can tell sdl to use opengl-es instead of opengl: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/51511737/127415218-39175088-599d-4cf3-bd4b-e2864b4fff50.png
<Wizzup> is that the sdl 2d engine using gles?
<kshatriya> yes
<kshatriya> nicer than 4-8 fps in software :)
<uvos> yeah for 2d stuff it has 2 backend
<uvos> 3d applications just ask for a surface
<uvos> sorry i thought you where talking about the latter before
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<kshatriya> 'top' now reports 70.5MB free, sorting by SHR memory use doesn't show processes totalling more than ~200MB
<kshatriya> hildon-desktop 16124, xorg 7520, hildon-status-menu 6760, mce 2504, upowerd 2328, udisksd 1724, bash 1596
<kshatriya> 795MB used
<Wizzup> yes, free and cached are separate on linux, this has nothing to do with leste per se
<kshatriya> can't compile stuff, for leste, in this state though
<kshatriya> g++: fatal error: Killed signal terminated program cc1plus
<kshatriya> curious if maybe i did something bad to cause low memory, or if there's something besides rebooting to get back to ~190MB used
<kshatriya> upowerd has biggest RSS at 23952
<Wizzup> again, free and cached need to be combined.
<kshatriya> how would combining free and cached avoid or resolve the problem?
<Wizzup> no, you need to first get a real sense of how mmuch ram is in use, and then look if that is enough for whatever you are compiling
<uvos> free -m look at available
<kshatriya> after reboot free -m reports
<kshatriya> Mem: 995 140 646 11 208 818
<Wizzup> reboot will also mostly clear the cache, so that will void whatever you were seeing before
<kshatriya> 818 MB available
<kshatriya> and i can continue
<kshatriya> which memory column in 'top' do you pay attention to?
<Wizzup> I don't use top for that, htop is far superior, or just look at free
<kshatriya> i would like to see what process used up all my memory
<kshatriya> which column in htop do you observe to identify a process using too much memory?
<kshatriya> i see same columns VIRT RES SHR.
<kshatriya> i would like to avoid rebooting as a solution to the occasional low-memory problem in maemo-leste
<kshatriya> no userspace application appeared to be running besides osso-xterm
<Wizzup> 16:10 < kshatriya> i would like to avoid rebooting as a solution to the occasional low-memory problem in maemo-leste
<Wizzup> I'm pretty sure it's not leste that's causing you trouble here
<buZz> kshatriya: ps aux
<Wizzup> It could be kernel space pvr or something, but does not seem too likely
<buZz> that shows only osso-xterm? seems unlikely
<Wizzup> in any case, not sure if we need to spend more time on this
<kshatriya> top SHR memory was upowerd buZz with 23MB
<kshatriya> reported by ps aux
<buZz> so, there -was- a different userspace application running ;)
<kshatriya> what name should i use for applications launched intentionally by user?
<Wizzup> my brain hurts
<buZz> anything that isnt the kernel = userspace application ;)
<kshatriya> ok i wont misuse that word anymore
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<uvos> Great i got kicked off of facebook for violateing comunity guidelines
<AaronBurr> 2+2=4?
<uvos> so thats the end of that for several mz617 leads
<uvos> AaronBurr: there are four lights.
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<Wizzup> uvos: how many lights do you see?
<Wizzup> uvos: let me guess, not your real name
<uvos> Wizzup: i gues i called myself carl uvos, and used the @uvos.xyz email addr so not sure how they could have known
<uvos> thats some serious privacy violation if they know thats not my real name.
<Wizzup> I did the same and they figured it out after I made some (required) photo
<Wizzup> matching it to some university website
<uvos> crazy
<Wizzup> yeah, absolutely awful
<Wizzup> (I wanted to keep in touch some folks who use facebook for everything, but alas)
<uvos> i dont remember it being this bad when i lased used facebook (2014ish)
<AaronBurr> uvos: do you think it would be possible to run a droid4 off usb power without drawing power from battery and continuously depleting/charging it?
<AaronBurr> or is the only way to avoid battery degradation hooking up to 3.8v lab power like wizzup did
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<uvos> yes
<uvos> i mean cpcap can be put into a state that powers the device directly
<uvos> but we dont want to do this
<uvos> beacuse android dosent and it changes electrical charectaristics of the the regulators
<uvos> old motorola device could also be powered by connecting the id pin to 5v
<uvos> i think d4 can too
<uvos> but at that point you might as well just wire something to the battery terminals
<uvos> since its not standart usb anymore
<AaronBurr> ok thank you
<AaronBurr> https://blog.workshoptwelve.com/2019/01/04/otg-usb-charge-hub-wtf/ this seems to indicate an otg mode can be triggered without any signalling. do you think that applies to d4?
<AaronBurr> would be nice to get one of my tinier hubs into a package supplying +5v to both host and peripherals
<uvos> clort: please stop changeing names
<uvos> ist annyoing
<uvos> and just adds confusion
<Wizzup> yeah I keep thinking we have some new folks
<AaronBurr> i'll test it and report back
<tmlind> Wizzup, uvos: don't have access to my mz617 right now, but pushed out my hacks so far to mapphone-v5.14 branch on github at https://github.com/tmlind/linux/commits/mapphone-v5.14
<uvos> oh hi
<tmlind> lcd backlight works with the regulator-fixed hacks
<tmlind> hi
<uvos> tmlind: any idea on the hdmi audio front?
<tmlind> no luck with the lcd bridge so far
<uvos> tmlind: ok
<tmlind> no idea when hdmi audio broke, i recall it used to work just fine with lapdock
<uvos> tmlind: ok
<tmlind> the lcd bridge stuff produces some error, can't spot where the issue might be
<uvos> ok ill take a look
<tmlind> yeah maybe you'll spot something :)
<uvos> at some point next week liekely
<uvos> im still hopeing that i dont have to do the dd install of the utags
<tmlind> yeah i won't get a chance to look at it until in some days
<tmlind> yeah bummer if we can't flash with fastboot
<uvos> yeah i hope someone will provide me the file eventually
<tmlind> yeah let's hope so :)
<tmlind> so what's up with the fastboot version needed, what happens with old versions?
<uvos> i tried various versions of mbm in the update files
<uvos> but the ones i have are not otg updates
<uvos> but full ones
<uvos> the otg updates at least parshally contained allow-mbmloader-flashing.mbm
<uvos> but no luck finding any
<tmlind> ok
<uvos> Blur_Version.11.7.279.MZ617.Verizon.en.US.zip would be one
<tmlind> ok
<uvos> thats the mz617 equivalent of where we got the mz607 file
<tmlind> ah ok
<uvos> (not that this helps us in this case - but its interesting)
<tmlind> yeah i saw that too, it did not unpack anything for me..
<tmlind> or unpacked empty files
<uvos> tmlind: hmm yeah it gets the file length wrong
<uvos> it extracts a mbm.bin for me but its to short
<uvos> but it dose contain the start of mbm
<uvos> so its not to far off from reality
<tmlind> yeah to me it looked like the header no longer contains the right info in the blobs, so i just used dd instead
<uvos> ok
<uvos> btw old motoboot.img is impossible to flash on later devices
<uvos> even if you downgrade mbm first
<tmlind> probably increments some efuse
<uvos> evil :( they dident do this on d4/bionic
<tmlind> yup :(
<tmlind> uvos: you mentioned fastboot needs to be at least v30.0, what happens otherwise?
<uvos> tmlind: it needs flash:raw for some reason
<uvos> to flash bspw
<uvos> also utags
<uvos> everything really
<tmlind> oh ok
<tmlind> will try to add it over the weekend or something
<uvos> likely some bug they introduced before 8.10 and fixed some time before 30.0
<uvos> not sure when exactly
<tmlind> ok
<uvos> i just know 30.0 and 31.0 work
<uvos> 31 being the latest version
<tmlind> yeah
<tmlind> need to go now, bbl hopefully
<uvos> ttyl
<uvos> Wizzup: so since archive.org stored the files from sbf.droidevelopers.org
<uvos> Wizzup: is it possible to search archive.orgs store for a file name?
<uvos> ie Blur_Version.11.7.279.MZ617.Verizon.en.US.zip arhived form any site that it crawled
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<Wizzup> uvos: I can ask (re: searching for filename)
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<uvos> Wizzup: great
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