<uvos>
Wizzup: i assume you have plenty of totaly stock d4's
* dreamer
wants a 2nd d4 to experiment with
<kshatriya>
sicelo: wpa_cli shows an address, wpa_state and uuid when asking for status. when running scal, wpa_cli returns no results
<kshatriya>
*running scan
<Wizzup>
uvos: yes, I do have some here
<Wizzup>
dreamer: I mean I could send them to my work/office, but I have a lot of d4s, better if someone else gets it
<Wizzup>
dreamer: lmk if you want me to get them here somehow
<Wizzup>
kshatriya: for wpa_cli you also need to type scan_results
<Wizzup>
uvos: what is sholes?
<uvos>
at85x and friends.
<kshatriya>
scan_results returns nothing
<uvos>
*a85x and friends
<uvos>
motorola phones with omap3 and ti pmic
<Wizzup>
uvos: hm, I see omap3 at least yeah
<Wizzup>
thought it would be similar to n900 maybe
<uvos>
Wizzup: yeah it is
<uvos>
it shares a kernel with a855 aka sholes
<uvos>
these are omap3 refereance designes
<Wizzup>
ah
<uvos>
an the arch that preceded mapphone
<Wizzup>
I am surprising you know this much :-D
<Wizzup>
surprised*
<Wizzup>
uvos: so winxp vm is what you did?
<uvos>
Wizzup: yeah it needs 32bit
<Wizzup>
wonder if I should just set up a winxp vm on my laptop and do usb passthrough
<uvos>
if you start it on win10 i complains that you should download the 64bit version
<Wizzup>
heh
<uvos>
ofc we cant do that
<uvos>
so you need 32bit windows
<dreamer>
Wizzup: I was planning to buy one myself. which continent are you based atm? :P
<uvos>
it installs lots of drivers
<uvos>
so they really need to fit the win kernel bitedness
<Wizzup>
dreamer: I am in europe, but I can order it to my office and have them ship it to me, but it won't safe much on import that way
<Wizzup>
uvos: ok
<Wizzup>
uvos: vm sounds better then
<dreamer>
Wizzup: do you mean for those ebay units?
<Wizzup>
dreamer: yes
<Wizzup>
I guess you meant something else
<dreamer>
no I wasn't 100% sure what we where talking about :D
<dreamer>
I have some US contacts, will ask around if anyone is willing to do this. for that price it's not a huge risk. and I guess at least a few of that batch will work
<Wizzup>
ok
<Wizzup>
probably all of them will
<kshatriya>
rmmod wl12xx and modprobe wl12xx, now i can scan again \o/
<Wizzup>
bbiab
<Wizzup>
kshatriya: odd.
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<dreamer>
Wizzup: well it does say "
<dreamer>
For parts or not working
<dreamer>
Condition:
<dreamer>
but perhaps just need battery replacements? :P
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<Wizzup>
dreamer: I ordered 11 tablets that way and they're all 100% fine it seems
<dreamer>
hehe
<dreamer>
I asked madeddie if he would do it :)
<uvos>
often sellers just cant be botherd to test such old devices
<uvos>
makes sense i mean if you where to go and take the time to test them you would be getting almost nothing on hourly basis.
<dreamer>
true, but testing a lot is generally easier then doing a single device
<dreamer>
since you usually have to do the setup only once
<dreamer>
anyway, lets see if we can get this batch in
<Wizzup>
(lots of milestone 3 on the website though)
<dreamer>
Wizzup: ok, ordered to madeddie's place in NYC :D
<Wizzup>
dreamer: neat
<dreamer>
hopefully he can get them to me relatively cheaply ;)
<Wizzup>
dreamer: mark them as 'for repair'
<Wizzup>
(i.e. you'll be returning them after you repair them for him)
<dreamer>
hehe
<dreamer>
or as 'gift'
<dreamer>
but 'for repair' is more accurate in a way :D
<kshatriya>
the bottleneck isn't devices, it's developers
<Wizzup>
:)
<dreamer>
uhuh, madeddie will get one for sure. he's been meaning to play with maemo and sailfish back in the day. now he'll have a maemo-leste supported device ;)
<dreamer>
will also put one at nurdspace for general showing off and hackery (I'm sure buZz will be pleased)
<dreamer>
one at home for more dedicated testing
<dreamer>
(compared to the `apt update` I run every other month now :D)
<Wizzup>
neat
<Wizzup>
uvos: I'll try to find some time later today to look again at the modem and stuff on the d3, since it has the same usbid, I think, and the kernel powers it up, but I just don't see a motmdm device
<buZz>
dreamer: oooo nice
<dreamer>
buZz: :) hopefully at his place in ~week and then another couple weeks to get here?
<buZz>
could just wait for his next .nl visit?]
<dreamer>
nah, he's not planning to come any time soon
<dreamer>
at least easier to figure out shipping to .nl using him then some rando ebay seller ;)
<Wizzup>
some ebay sellers to ship to .nl
<Wizzup>
dreamer: but this way we get him to play with it, so yeah :p
<dreamer>
:D
<kshatriya>
it's a dream come true having 1GB RAM instead of 256MB, for maemo
<dreamer>
:D
<dreamer>
and two whole cores OMG
<Wizzup>
with zram it is a bit more too
<kshatriya>
two cores is a great win, giving final blitting to screen to one core, while other core run game full speed
<kshatriya>
or video decoding
<kshatriya>
droid4 can run full-resolution h265, in cpu only, using fastdecode tune
<buZz>
wow really?
<buZz>
thats amazing
<Wizzup>
full-res you mean native, right?
<kshatriya>
960x540 yes, up to 30fps tested
<Wizzup>
tbh our x setup could be quite a bit more optimised too I think
<buZz>
i'd love to see that noise removed on powering up the device from sleep-ish
<Wizzup>
hm?
<buZz>
every time i press powerbutton on a 'sleeping' droid4 , i first get fullscreen of noise
<Wizzup>
Inside, it will contain a MSM8960 Dual core Snapdragon Krait or S4 Plus processor chipset, an Adreno 225 GPU, with a RAM capacity of 1 Gigabyte to 2 Gigabytes, an internal built in storage capacity of 16 Gigabytes, powered by a 2,000mAh battery.
<buZz>
-or- ?
<buZz>
:D
<uvos>
i kinda doubt the know...
<uvos>
but yeah maybe
<buZz>
> Diverging from recent Motorola Droid models, the Droid 5 might not have the Kevlar coating
<buZz>
what
<buZz>
droid4 had kevlar? :D
<uvos>
no
<uvos>
xt910
<uvos>
has kevlar
<buZz>
ah
<buZz>
xt910 has a TI OMAP 4430
<buZz>
:)
<Wizzup>
yes
<Wizzup>
see the ods that uvos linked
<buZz>
ah, but no keyboard?
<bencoh>
looks like a droid4 without keyboard
<buZz>
hmhm
<uvos>
x910 the supidest mapphone ever: a bionic with same display in a larger case and a smaller non removeable battery and no lte, relased 1 year after the bionic
<bencoh>
huhu
<buZz>
but kevlar! :)
<uvos>
and slightly thinner!!!!!!!
<bencoh>
I wouldn't call that 'stupid' but 'cheaper'
<bencoh>
(manufacturing process)
<uvos>
bencoh: it was more expensive
<bencoh>
uvos: for the buyer, maybe
<uvos>
yeah
<uvos>
the redesign might have been because of the lawsuit from apple
<uvos>
they got a patent on phones with rounded corners (thats not a joke) sued everyone
<uvos>
i think thats why the moto devices immidatly after this affair have those wierd corners
<Wizzup>
tmlind: any idea why the modem motmdm device would not show up?
<uvos>
Wizzup: what mode are you in
<uvos>
Wizzup: on a855
<uvos>
the only one i ever used with radiocom
<uvos>
you had to select one of the bp modes in the bootloader
<uvos>
Wizzup: power on the deivce holding vol up and down at the same time
<uvos>
mbm comes up with boot modes
<Wizzup>
uvos: I don't mean radiocomm, I meant on leste
<uvos>
oh right
<Wizzup>
sorry, that was not clear
<Wizzup>
I'm not ready for radiocomm yet, maybe tonight or tomorrow
<uvos>
ok
<Wizzup>
maybe it's related to the network lock somehow?
<uvos>
do you have anything from it?
<uvos>
is it on the usb bus?
<Wizzup>
yes, it is on usb
<Wizzup>
with the same usbids as d4
<uvos>
ok
<Wizzup>
and the usbtty's are there
<uvos>
interupt might be somewhere esle
<Wizzup>
which interrupt?
<uvos>
the status gpios
<uvos>
motorola,mode-gpios
<uvos>
motorola,cmd-gpios
<uvos>
motorola,status-gpios
<uvos>
any of those might be wired somewhere else
<uvos>
for board space reasons
<Wizzup>
ok
<uvos>
best compear the dts
<uvos>
against maserati stock dts
<Wizzup>
which I don't have converted to dts yet ;)
<Wizzup>
ok
<uvos>
just taking the dtb
<uvos>
and diffing the binary section where all the gpios are defined
<uvos>
would be enough
<uvos>
its farly obvious in a hex editor
<Wizzup>
it's a shame though since we have decompilers for dtb typcally
<uvos>
buZz: yeah all we know of it is that apearntly one got sold on german ebay.
<Wizzup>
but it might have certain (signed) firmware that's very useful
<buZz>
lots of milestone2's
<uvos>
yes m2 was the last device sold in europe
<uvos>
m3 was sold only in other regions (sa and asia)
<buZz>
that intermec device is so tempting :P lol
<buZz>
*quickly closes ebay*
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<tmlind>
Wizzup: sorry not sure what you mean modem does not show up, is this for radiocomm or something?
<Wizzup>
tmlind: on leste, one sec
<Wizzup>
I will boot it now
<tmlind>
ok
<Wizzup>
(booting now)
<tmlind>
Wizzup, uvos: fyi, the modem can be made to show up on the pc usb bus with just some extra mux settings, that's all there is to the bp only mode i think really
<Wizzup>
tmlind: still booting, but what I am seeing is the modem shows up in lsusb on the droid 3, and the kernel also shows that it powers it up and is successful in doing so, and I see /dev/ttyUSB{1,2,3,4}, but no /dev/motmdm1
<Wizzup>
so ofono also doesn't pick the modem up
<tmlind>
Wizzup: sounds like the /dev/gsmtty* related gpio pins are different
<Wizzup>
ok
<Wizzup>
so I do see this kind of stuff:
<Wizzup>
Jul 26 18:42:52 localhost kernel: [ 11.208496] phy-mapphone-mdm6600 usb-phy@1: using device tree for GPIO lookup
<Wizzup>
Jul 26 18:42:52 localhost kernel: [ 15.534454] phy-mapphone-mdm6600 usb-phy@1: Waiting for power up request to complete..
<Wizzup>
Jul 26 18:42:52 localhost kernel: [ 18.510650] phy-mapphone-mdm6600 usb-phy@1: Powered up OK
<Wizzup>
tmlind: sounds like what uvos said earlier then (and I will look into)
<Wizzup>
16:22 < Wizzup> which interrupt?
<Wizzup>
16:23 < uvos> motorola,status-gpios
<Wizzup>
16:23 < uvos> motorola,mode-gpios
<Wizzup>
16:23 < uvos> motorola,cmd-gpios
<Wizzup>
16:23 < uvos> the status gpios
<tmlind>
Wizzup: check the gpios for motorola,mapphone-mdm6600 compatible
<tmlind>
heh that's "only" 11 gpios to match :)
<uvos>
yeah those are the ones i linked
<uvos>
or mentiond rather
<tmlind>
hmm the modem usb phy status sure looks ok above
<tmlind>
maybe the revision is different if there's a check for it/
<tmlind>
?
<uvos>
also enable and power
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<Wizzup>
ok, will do
<tmlind>
looks like we have no modem firmware revision check
<tmlind>
Wizzup: try modprobe n_gsm debug=0xff and take a look at the traffic
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<Wizzup>
tmlind: yeah I did that but didn't see any traffic I think
<Wizzup>
anyway, let me move to the other place and try it out
<Wizzup>
(looking at the pins)
<tmlind>
ok
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<sicelo>
buZz: haha, more like - remote controller (that tablet)
<buZz>
sicelo: just imagine being a waitress in a small paris bar
<buZz>
whipping out your MAEMO LESTE POS unit
<buZz>
to take payment in bitcoin
<buZz>
:)
<buZz>
*nokia tune plays on churchbells in the background*
<sicelo>
:P
<Wizzup>
uvos: btw, you recommended that I downclock the droid3 because I saw some resets, right?
<uvos>
Wizzup: yes the omap4 chip in d3 is a different version
<uvos>
its rated to 1.0 ghz only
<uvos>
your running it at 1.2ghz currently
<uvos>
i strongly doubt that this is the reason
<uvos>
but its something to try
<Wizzup>
I think it is on 1Ghz actually, but I set it to 600 Mhz and it still happens
<Wizzup>
I need to fix other things as well
<uvos>
no
<uvos>
its 1.2
<Wizzup>
probably also keep in on serial and do pstore stuff etc
<uvos>
i changed this
<uvos>
myself
<Wizzup>
uvos: well cpupower said 1000 I thikn
<Wizzup>
in any case setting it to 600Mhz didn't help
<uvos>
no its 1200000 1375000
<uvos>
see &cpu in mapphone dtsi
<uvos>
but yeah i doubt its the reason anyhow
<uvos>
and 600mhz confirms this
<Wizzup>
I think it happens when a lot of power is in use, screen brightness is still max
<uvos>
Wizzup: try pstore
<Wizzup>
uvos: yeah, need to make sure it survives kexec and stuff I guess, but too much going on at te same time
<Wizzup>
if I don't open the display it's ine
<uvos>
Wizzup: the battery might be deadish
<uvos>
under load the voltage would then sag to mutch
<Wizzup>
maybe
<Wizzup>
it lasts like a day though
<uvos>
the ir goes before the capacity goes
<uvos>
usualy
<uvos>
try loading it in android
<Wizzup>
ok
<Wizzup>
well, it's a very early port, we'll see
<uvos>
run some benchmark or something in android and see i gues
<uvos>
its not printing anything on serial right?
<uvos>
when it crashes
<Wizzup>
I haven't checked yet, I will
<uvos>
remeber that we disabeld the serial console output in standart cmdline for d4/bionic
<uvos>
in case you are copying that
<Wizzup>
mhm
<Wizzup>
argh, pulseaudio-modules-nemo just builds on my droid4 but not in jenkins
<Wizzup>
I wonder if something removes the *.o files, or the timestamp causes problems or something
<kshatriya>
imagine if phones had standard physical connectors on the edge, where radios approved for different regions could be snapped-on
<Wizzup>
would be sweet
<Wizzup>
parazyd: any idea how I can debug the armhf build failures on jenkins?
<Wizzup>
parazyd: pulseaudio-modules-nemo fails only in jenkins
<Wizzup>
the 'ar x' command in src/common/Makefile/am is never run
<Wizzup>
Makefile.am
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<uvos>
kshatriya: will be really hard to have the fcc sign of on that, that was also a problem for project ara.
<kshatriya>
is there a reasonable objection they could make?
<uvos>
yes phones have lots of additional requirements regarding emmissions to users head, total emmisions in various directions etc that are impossible to cert except by certing every single combination of phone and radio
<uvos>
so it will never work
<uvos>
project ara had exactly this problem
<kshatriya>
there is legitimate concern over glioblastomas, studies in france and netherlands with DECT phones etc.
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<parazyd>
Wizzup: Lemme check that in a little bit