<uvos>
yeah thats buggy with apps not desinged for it
<uvos>
use the x11 backend
<inky>
oh how?
<uvos>
open the vkb with search
<uvos>
maybe you cant get to the input field tho
<inky>
waih
<inky>
its default
<inky>
i just reflashed droid's sdcard
<uvos>
hmm what is default?
<inky>
backend
<inky>
yessss
<inky>
when opened with search
<inky>
it sends enter
<uvos>
right
<inky>
but when i touch the text box
<inky>
it doesnt
<uvos>
it uses the libhildon him backend if you touch the box
<inky>
how to change the kbd to always use x11 backend?
<uvos>
and uses the x11 backend if you use search
<uvos>
the way normal hildon him works is pretty fundamentaly broken
<uvos>
it wont work right if the app wasent designed with it in mind
<inky>
on pinephone i hope it'll use the volume button
<uvos>
yeah should work
<inky>
welr if i use the volume button
<uvos>
right
<inky>
it would open vkbd wihh x11 backend
<uvos>
yes
<inky>
why are you keeping hildon backend?
<inky>
why not get cid of it and always use x11 backend?
<inky>
cid/rid
<uvos>
the x11 backend has no way of opening on touch
<uvos>
(of an input field)
<uvos>
atho you could implement this
<uvos>
no way i could ever remove the backend either way, every one here will be out for my head for breaking legacy maemo applications
<uvos>
desktop gtk2 apps will just be sorta broken forever
<inky>
ok i see
<inky>
dont know what to do
<inky>
but cannot imagine that cegular user may want to be informed about two different backends
<uvos>
if you wait long enough desktop gtk2 apps will all disapear
<uvos>
and the problem goes away
<uvos>
or you can go around patching absouly everthing like they did on fremantle
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<marex>
hey, I was going through the wiki, but there is one thing I cannot find
<marex>
is there some howto or some such thing on building the whole maemo from scratch ?
<marex>
say, I have a stock debian installation with build-essentials, so, I would like to download the sources and build the packages, likely in some order ?
<marex>
why I'm asking is because I was pondering whether it would be possible to build maemo with OE, there is some meta-maemo already, it is just for maemo4 (i.e. ancient)
<marex>
so, I was pondering whether there is some document where to start with such a build
<uvos>
marex: no stuch guide exists, currently you cant run leste on debian because we lack systemd .serivce files / general setup
<uvos>
marex: would be great if you could change that ;)
<marex>
uvos: OE allows me to pick whatever init system I might need, that doesn't really impact me much
<marex>
so the init system bit is not really important
<uvos>
marex: its all also really debian specfic, lots of packages install files via /debian directory
<marex>
uvos: I can imagine how that can be reasonably easily converted to bitbake recipes
<uvos>
sure
<marex>
so I think what I am looking for is some sort of from-scratch bootstrap guide
<marex>
it seems the CI is already running from some pre-bootstrapped system and just rebuilding packages in that
<uvos>
right
<uvos>
as far as what to compile in what order, i dont think we have sutch a thing
<uvos>
rebootstraping leste at this point would be quite the mess afaik, but parazyd is more knowlageable here ^^^
<marex>
lets see what crops up, thanks
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