<Wizzup>
uvos: radiocomm comes with a nice user manual :) RadioComm_UserManual.pdf
<Wizzup>
uvos: I think radiocomm just talks to COM1 or so, so maybe it can work in wine (it doesn't even start in wine right now though, needs some .net stuff)
<Wizzup>
uvos: oh nvm, also needs usb ofc
<sicelo>
maybe a Windows VM, with USB passthrough?
<Wizzup>
I just remembered my gf has a laptop with windows, so might try that too
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<Wizzup>
tmlind: did you poke around much in radiocomm?
<Wizzup>
tmlind: there is an interesting file QC_NVLIST
<Wizzup>
for example 1143 there is NV_WCDMA_1900_VGA_GAIN_OFFSET_I,1143,2,
<Wizzup>
and NV_RF_BC_CONFIG_I,1877,8,
<Wizzup>
contains a lot of AGPS stuff too
<Wizzup>
cpcap_mask_lookup.txt also looks interesting
<sicelo>
Wizzup: thanks for replying on u-boot :)
<Wizzup>
the reply is not the actual work
<Wizzup>
hehe
<sicelo>
yeah, but it's helpful to show there's still life
<sicelo>
and/or interest in the topic
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<tmlind>
Wizzup: have not used radiocomm at all, no idea about it. i've just used the register defines in some open source project whatever it was
<tmlind>
libpst in openbst projects
<tmlind>
include/qualcomm/dm_nv.h there has some version of nvram registers
<tmlind>
i think the nvram agps features are not used, or it's configured to get the almanac like droid4-agps is doing
<tmlind>
hmm so what's the cpcap_mask_lookup.txt file?
<tmlind>
Wizzup: maybe email me QC_NVLIST and cpcap_mask_lookup.txt or post them somewhere to look at?
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<Roal-Yr>
Hello fellows, I would like to know if there is a Discord server for Maemo Leste (or if it is planned)? Asking because I am not used to use IRC.
<L29Ah>
i'm pretty sure proprietary chat platforms are out of the question
<Danct12>
you can join through matrix and setup a discord bridge there if that's what you prefer
<dreamer>
as long as we're not bothered by that bridge ..
<dreamer>
(I thought those where always done with a bot shouting messages back and forth)
<Roal-Yr>
That sounds even less convenient though.
<dreamer>
discord would be less convenient
<dreamer>
since everybody is here on irc
<bencoh>
logs are public, so a discord bot / bridge / whatever wouldn't hurt here anyway
<Roal-Yr>
Well, I guess IRC it is then.
<dreamer>
bencoh: it would hurt if it's a bot shouting messages back and forth
<dreamer>
tin-can-telephone-communication
<Danct12>
if you can properly configure the bot then it just sounds like a normal irc user.. :P
* L29Ah
uses IRC through XMPP
<dreamer>
no idea, that's what I usually see channels do and it's super annoying
<bencoh>
dreamer: it's slightly less annoying than I thought at first; someone invited such a bot in another channel
<dreamer>
I tend to quit those channels
<bencoh>
but obviously it isn't exactly great
<Roal-Yr>
In any case, I first have to get my hands on droid 4 and see if what I purchased is functional even.
<dreamer>
it's more annoying than matrix-server quits/joins
<dreamer>
Roal-Yr: :)
<Danct12>
i still yet to find a droid 4, it seems like vast majority of them are overseas
<Roal-Yr>
I couldn't resist the temptation of owning a qwerty slider again, moreover on linux.
<Danct12>
(i might as well ask someone there to buy it for me)
<bencoh>
Danct12: depends on which part of the world you are I guess ... I think mine came from the USA
<bencoh>
(iirc)
<Roal-Yr>
I have managed to get a second-hand one for about 17$ locally. There is another one for 12$ but it is much more battered.
<bencoh>
hmm, mine cost more
<Danct12>
honestly, if the phone has a keyboard in landscape mode, that's the selling point for me :)
<Roal-Yr>
Okay, now the important question: is the compiling toolchain there on ML? I am into coding on phone (in fact writing from Termux now), and I am interested in being able to do that if possible. I've seen Python packages, I think...
<bencoh>
Roal-Yr: leste is based on devuan
<bencoh>
it's basically devuan + custom repos
<bencoh>
so the toolchain is devuan's toolchain
<Roal-Yr>
Good-good.
<bencoh>
:)
<Roal-Yr>
If I can get to code in Rust on a phone from 2011 that will be very pleasant.
<bencoh>
nothing stopping you from doing it :)
<Roal-Yr>
I hope they support armhf? Or was it armv7?
<bencoh>
armhf
<L29Ah>
armv7hf?
<bencoh>
yeah
<bencoh>
(droid4/n900 don't support armv8, obviously)
<Roal-Yr>
By the way, why OMAP devices?
<L29Ah>
might be v6
<bencoh>
if you ask why does two, then n900 was maemo 5 (fremantle) only platform; droid4 is quite similar to it in various ways
<bencoh>
s/does/those/
<bencoh>
and well, it make it pretty nice target once some people started working on it
<bencoh>
(even before leste started iirc)
<bencoh>
(uhg, sorry about all the typos, I keep rephrasing without re-reading afterwards)
<dreamer>
potentially there are a lot of other OMAP devices that could be added (think Pandora, Pyra and others)
<Roal-Yr>
By the way, did anyone of you try PinePhone? How is it? I am tempted by the fact that it may cost me just one month worth of income. Naturally I went for droid 4 as a cheaper preview device...
<L29Ah>
pinephone's idle runtime is horrible for such a fat battery
<bencoh>
Roal-Yr: there a few Leste demos on pinephone on youtube if you want
<L29Ah>
but apparently people don't mind keeping it connected daily
<Roal-Yr>
Oh boy.
<Roal-Yr>
My main concern with Android is that they are closing the gaps in security and new SDK versions will prohibit compilation and execution of 3rd-party code, which means that at most one could do script coding.
<Roal-Yr>
That means either staying on Android 10/11 or looking for alternatives.
<Roal-Yr>
For devices as good as personal computers in terms of hardware to be so... restricted in terms of software, this is depressing.
<L29Ah>
smartphones aren't even close to proper laptops wrt hardware
<stano_>
they exceed the performance of desktops if you go back X years
<stano_>
anyway, glad to have more interest and helpers to make Maemo rise from the ashes
<bencoh>
<3
<Roal-Yr>
It is my final PhD year, and I will be trying hard to not to fail, so I promise nothing right now, but I definitely see linux phones being as good as linux computers in the future (if we live long enough).
<Roal-Yr>
And I will be glad to contgibute if possible.
<stano_>
it's in a play-with-able state already, so you can familiarize yourself with it in your 'off time' and have fun, without committing yourself to impossible things
<stano_>
dear leader Linus told us to "have fun"
<Roal-Yr>
Absolutely.
<Roal-Yr>
What else is there to do otherwise.
<stano_>
the stage beyond that is 'do your duty'
<Roal-Yr>
Which is equally fulfilling TBH. Balance is the key.
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<_uvos_>
Wizzup: interestin @ radiocomm
<_uvos_>
i only ever used it with a85x
<_uvos_>
regarding the cpcap file, on d4 the 3g modem is not connected it cpcap at all, but the 4g modem is
<_uvos_>
it would be interesting to also see what, if any, radiocomm has on lcm2.0
<_uvos_>
maybe on d3 the modem is serviced by cpcap instead of its own pmic
<_uvos_>
that would make some sense, the maybe ran out of regulators while adding the 4g modem so they added the second pmic
<_uvos_>
that would also explain the non-functional modem in letste
<_uvos_>
on d3
<_uvos_>
maybe look at the d3 teardown and see if the quallcom pmic is included like on d4
<sicelo>
Roal-Yr: and yes, not necessarily OMAP devices. if you have a QCOM with mainline kernel, it can be supported. iirc support for Xiaomi Poco F1 was merged (or stalled?)
<_uvos_>
also we support pp, a non-omap device
<Roal-Yr>
Oh right.
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<Roal-Yr>
Disconnected... I was writing that I could possibly get 3 droid 4s for 17$ each. And looks like they are in decent condition.
<uvos>
the d4 has lots of built in peripherals the pis dont have being, you know, a real phone and all
<Roal-Yr>
I assume that is what causing most trouble.
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<uvos>
for supporting a new phone, yeah that adds some complexity sure. as far as the d4 is concerned tho its a solved problem
<uvos>
every peripheral is supported, except cameras.
<uvos>
and the lte modem
<uvos>
umts modem works fine
<stano_>
there's a huge stack of work to support cameras too, judging by that lecture i saw on n900
<uvos>
yeah
<uvos>
the omap side is mostly done afaik
<uvos>
not sure how stable it is tho
<uvos>
but we know next to nothing about the acctual chips
<stano_>
:/
<stano_>
even without a wizzbang camera app, getting to a v4l2 device would be a huge achievement
<uvos>
the front camera has a out of tree driver tho, you might be able to get it going with resonable effort and the out of tree iss patches
<uvos>
back camera is tough
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<stano_>
not even on my wishlist really
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<Roal-Yr>
Driver-specific issue? (I assume USB cameras should work?)
<uvos>
there is no driver for the iss (in tree) there is no driver for the camera chips, we dont even know where the f*** the camera is connected (regulator wise, bus wise)
<Roal-Yr>
Oh boy.
<stano_>
fm transmitter would be more fun for me :P
<uvos>
there is a fm transmitter
<stano_>
yup :P
<uvos>
but im going to venture a gues and say the antenna is connected no where
<uvos>
so it wont ever work
<sicelo>
hw mod then?
<uvos>
no
<uvos>
its bga and if they dident connect it thats that
<uvos>
there is no where you could solder something in this case
<stano_>
someone at motorola pooped on that then. n900 was sometimes usable as an in-car transmitter
<uvos>
not really
<uvos>
they dident want the additional cert complexity
<uvos>
most likely
<sicelo>
did moto ever release a phone with official fm transmitter anyway? can't recall, but of course, didn't follow all moto doings, plus lots of models didn't make it to this market
<uvos>
i dont know of any reasonably modern phone
<uvos>
some old moto feature phones could
<sicelo>
heh
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