<midfavila>
just checked out this little notes application, `nb`, on github
<midfavila>
has lots of neat features bu
<midfavila>
t
<midfavila>
it's fuckn
<midfavila>
a ~27k sloc bash script
<midfavila>
absolutely wild
<midfavila>
unix-notes is ~600 in posix
<kris_>
27k sloc of bash is 10/10
<midfavila>
it's great
<midfavila>
i'm going through my list of software to check out, finally, and there are some real gems
<midfavila>
but also some real stinkers
<midfavila>
i love it when my "minimalist" software is written in three different languages, demands ten separate libraries, and only compiles with gcc
<midfavila>
and has like 50k lines of code
<midfavila>
great stuff
<midfavila>
:ok::ok::ok:
<midfavila>
now i'm looking for some tools for plaintext accounting and exact same situation
<midfavila>
i'll probably just go back to doing it all in a spreadsheet
<kris_>
nb has web functionality?
<midfavila>
with like three different browsers at least
<kris_>
i was honestly more wondering why it has web func
<kris_>
i'll have to look into what this is, a bash notes app would be nice since i'm mostly cli now
<kris_>
i had planned on just making one though
<midfavila>
honestly hooking in a simple web browser like w3m or links2 is a good idea imho
<midfavila>
because it lets you piggyback off basic html
<midfavila>
so you can essentially have a personal wiki
<kris_>
ahhh i see, this is 27k sloc because it's a site generator
<kris_>
lol
<midfavila>
among other things
<midfavila>
:v
<midfavila>
check out unix-notes
<midfavila>
but yeah my eventual goal is to have all of my software chosen and tweaked and set up just right, *once*, and then just dump an exact copy of my system on all my devices
<midfavila>
sync all my docs and stuff under /home across everything
<kris_>
nixos/gnu guix:
<midfavila>
yeah but those are cringe
<midfavila>
>:C
<kris_>
i know they're cringe
<midfavila>
i have to be a contrarian
<kris_>
C:<
<midfavila>
also i doubt either of them would fit on my reform
<midfavila>
it's running off of like an 8gb emmc chip
<midfavila>
lol
<midfavila>
even debian is kind of phat for it
<kris_>
debian is bloated af
<kris_>
nobody can change my mind
<kris_>
i'm glad ubuntu is jumping ship to uutils from gnu coreutils
<kris_>
regardless of what your take on rust may be, it's better
<midfavila>
>rust rewrite
<midfavila>
into the trash it goes
<kris_>
yes but some of the utils are like 6x faster lol
<kris_>
not to mention it's less dogshit quality code
<kris_>
by far
<midfavila>
i literally could not give less of a shit if my `find` implementation is 20x faster
<midfavila>
lmao
<kris_>
higher quality though :/
<midfavila>
suckless
* midfavila
sips
<midfavila>
good enough for google
<kris_>
>suckless
<kris_>
>look inside
<kris_>
>sucks
<midfavila>
yeah some of it is dogshit
<kris_>
i'm mostly poking at you
<midfavila>
i really don't like that they use libXft
<midfavila>
for some of their stuff
<kris_>
i'll take uutils over gnu coreutils but i don't really feel pressed to switch coreutil impls
<midfavila>
you can pry my barely functional sbase and ubase forks from my cold dead hands
<kris_>
i mean i *could* just swap to busybox right now if i felt like it but i really don't like having to have two coreutil impls
<midfavila>
i really should get back to work on my custom userland toh
<midfavila>
tho*
<midfavila>
but a i have so much other stuff i need to work on first
<midfavila>
like figuring out how to get wiringpi or similar to work on my uconsole since upstream doesn't fucking provide source code
<midfavila>
and that's the only way i can get the 4g modem to run
<kris_>
idk i'm pretty cool with the setup ive been using
<kris_>
void + my build of musl + tinyramfs to replace dracut because ick + uki to boot so i can properly secure my boot chain
<kris_>
so still just gnu coreutils
<midfavila>
hey sorry unrelated but do you (or anyone else) know of like, a networking equivalet to `pass`
<midfavila>
i swear to god i came across something like that a while ago
<kris_>
like, a password manager like pass but networked?
<kris_>
gopass comes to mind
<midfavila>
nah like a network manager with the same philosophy
<midfavila>
i guess
<kris_>
i just use dhcpcd
<kris_>
plus iproute commands
<kris_>
and wpa_cli if i need to deal with wifi networks
<midfavila>
normally i do something similar but punching in like five commands to connect to a wireless network on my uconsole isn't something i'm huge on
<kris_>
if wpa_supplicant isnt too bloated for you, wpa_cli should be part of it
<midfavila>
as much as i prefer a physical keeb i'd still like to avoid typing on a thumb board
<midfavila>
yeah i do use it
<midfavila>
it's less of a pain than iwd
<midfavila>
imo
<kris_>
it should stick
<kris_>
if you save the fig
<midfavila>
i could just be misremembering something
<midfavila>
idk
* midfavila
shrugs
<kris_>
unless you're connecting to multiple networks in which case im not sure
<kris_>
networkmanager + nmtui is unironically probably the route id take in that case lol
<midfavila>
hiss
<kris_>
networkmanager stinks ik but it's pretty simple usage wise
<midfavila>
if i have to i'll write a little TUI using smenu or similar on top of ifconfig wpa etc
<midfavila>
wpa_supplicant
<kris_>
do it
<kris_>
hell i'd use it, i'm about to pick up a thinkpad t480
* midfavila
nods
<midfavila>
i want to learn more about curses programming in the future
<kris_>
still the best laptop ever made imo
* midfavila
coughs in mnt reform
<kris_>
i just use dialog
<midfavila>
dialog is a pain in the ass
<kris_>
absolutely!
<kris_>
but it's powerful and not too bloaty
<midfavila>
i would rather it be less of a PITA
<kris_>
that's what i use for my void installer, i experimented with whiptail for a little bit and hated it
<midfavila>
yeah whiptail is meh
<kris_>
dialog isnt that complex once you figure out what you can and cant do
<kris_>
and how to solve certain stupid ass issues
<midfavila>
honestly if i sit down and experiment with dialog and i can get some functions to wrap it i'll probably enjoy it more
<kris_>
like for one of my menus i'm piping in a zero width unicode char to fill in gaps
<midfavila>
i intend to fiddle with text stuff a lot more since the r01 doesn't have graphical acceleration and so it gets dumped onto the uh
<midfavila>
1ghz riscv processor
<midfavila>
with everything els
<midfavila>
else*
<midfavila>
god i need to replace the switches on this keyboard
<midfavila>
i'll check that out though
<midfavila>
i guess i should tell you about what i've been meaning to check out for curses more broadly
<midfavila>
i have a copy of goodheart's "unix curses explained" and from what little i've peeked at thus far it seems phenomenal
<midfavila>
you can check out a digital copy on the internet archive for free but it's not hard to find second hand
<midfavila>
really straight-forward. same sort of feeling as TUPE or K&R
<midfavila>
also it only covers standard curses afaik so no need to worry about picking up bad habits from ncurse
<midfavila>
ncurses
<midfavila>
holy shit
<midfavila>
i swear once i get a pinecil and some spare kalih switches these browns are gone
<kris_>
i havent found an excuse to use my pinecil yet
<kris_>
i use my pinetime all the time though, mostly so i don't miss texts
<midfavila>
honestly i would love to fiddle with tech stuff more but hardware at least is really expensive to get into
<midfavila>
:c
<midfavila>
sure you can get those dumb little practice boards but i've never liked those
<midfavila>
same with "recreational" programming
<midfavila>
i like solving real problems
<midfavila>
i'm lame like that ig
<midfavila>
...the real problem of getting suckless ii to talk to discord, but still
<midfavila>
:v
<kris_>
im surprised you're at all interested in interacting with discord
<midfavila>
my SO uses discord
<midfavila>
that's the only reason i have an account
<midfavila>
i'm working on getting them to move to XMPP
<midfavila>
slowly
<midfavila>
:v
<midfavila>
at that point i'll be deleting it
<midfavila>
it's the same with telegram. one of my best friends uses it and i only talk to him on it and once we set something else up that's going to go too
<midfavila>
then it'll be just xmpp/irc/email and maybe icb
<midfavila>
and i guess usenet
<kris_>
XMPP kinda stinks
<midfavila>
it doe
<kris_>
matrix also kinda stinks
<midfavila>
does
<kris_>
so here i am
<kris_>
i'm not convinced matrix isnt a honeypot to be 100% blunt
<kris_>
but that's probably just me
<midfavila>
irc is nice but it's hard to into for non computer nerds
<midfavila>
i guess
<kris_>
idk it depends
<kris_>
i could just make soju accounts on my vps for whoever i want
<midfavila>
and not having persistence is a deal breaker for some people
<kris_>
at that point they just log in
<midfavila>
oh hrm
<midfavila>
maybe i'll look at that then
<kris_>
soju blows ass i don't recommend it
<midfavila>
rip
<kris_>
znc is probably more your style
<kris_>
same thing applies though they just log in
<kris_>
to be clear, soju only "blows ass" because it limits the clients you can use
<midfavila>
>modules
<midfavila>
hiss
<kris_>
goguma for mobile, i'm using weechat on desktop but it isnt well integrated
<midfavila>
i also might just get a bot that has notes or something idk
<midfavila>
but xmpp is okay for 1-1
<midfavila>
i'm going to fiddle with ii+bitblbee+libpurple+purple-plugins-prpl
<midfavila>
because miminalism :DDD
<kris_>
xmpp is ok
<kris_>
i used it for a bit, hosted a server for my discord friends
<kris_>
they hated it, especially because there are no decent clients for ios
<kris_>
and that's like 70% of them so
<midfavila>
rip
<midfavila>
honestly it's their fault for being apple babis
<midfavila>
babies
<midfavila>
smdh
<kris_>
yeah but it's whatever because i want to talk to them
<midfavila>
fair
<midfavila>
hey btw speaking of software do you know of a decent cli audio player that doesn't depend on ffpmeg and doesn't have a bajillion options?
<midfavila>
i've been looking for ages and i'm having a hell of a time
<midfavila>
the best option thus far seems to be mus
<kris_>
why no ffmpeg
<midfavila>
because hueg
<kris_>
i use cmus personally but on void the packages are super fucking split up
<kris_>
so i don't install the ffmpeg stuff with it
<kris_>
i just install the flac stuff and leave it there
<midfavila>
one of my main goals is getting rid of libre/openssl
<kris_>
good luck lol
<midfavila>
so curl is out of the question
<midfavila>
it's honestly not hard for me
<midfavila>
the only software i regularly use that depends on it is links2
<midfavila>
and i want to patch it to use libtls
<midfavila>
so it can link against bearssl
<midfavila>
i've been tinkering on and off for a while now with my own simple http client that does the same too
<midfavila>
so no need for wget/curl/axel/aria/etc
<kris_>
my impulsive thoughts: write a music player in bash
* kris_
loves bash
<midfavila>
use bourne or rc
* midfavila
turn his nose up at you
<kris_>
meh right now my main project is unfortunately adding btrfs support to my void installer against my better judgement
<midfavila>
scheme and forth are also acceptable
<kris_>
people have successfully annoyed me enough to do it
<midfavila>
why btrfs?
<midfavila>
oh
<midfavila>
fair
<kris_>
shit you tell me
<midfavila>
i haven't used it in years
<midfavila>
i only really use xfs and nilfs
<kris_>
i don't want it, i think it's unstable, slow, and bloated
<kris_>
and if i did want a fs like that id use zfs
<midfavila>
honestly i don't get the appeal of zfs
<midfavila>
at all
<kris_>
but i just use xfs everywhere and add lvm if i'm raiding and stuff
<kris_>
*always* with luks
<midfavila>
i get that it's Enterprise:tm: and Scalable:tm: but why not just use hammer2
<kris_>
i dont think hammer2 is well supported on linux
<kris_>
if at all
<midfavila>
i'm pretty sure dropbox uses hammer2
<midfavila>
i mean it's not
<midfavila>
but i would be fine with more people using bsd
<kris_>
nobody is going to use dragonfly
<kris_>
like that's just unrealistic
<midfavila>
i dailied it for a while
<midfavila>
i'm a somebody
<midfavila>
at least to my friends
<midfavila>
qwq
<kris_>
idk i tried to daily freebsd for a while and couldn't stand it
<kris_>
openbsd would work out for me pretty well if it had an actual hypervisor and wayland support
<midfavila>
good luck with the latter
<kris_>
ah they're not that far off
<kris_>
people are using sway on openbsd now but it's far from in a good state
<midfavila>
i can't see them switching away from xenocara officially
<midfavila>
even now i can't go five minutes without one of my friends bitching at me about wayland lol
<midfavila>
maybe in another ten years
<kris_>
if wayland never becomes a first class thing on openbsd i'm not going to take openbsd seriously on desktop
<midfavila>
meh
<midfavila>
i still maintain that mgr would be really nice
<kris_>
i dunno
* kris_
is a sway shill
<kris_>
although wlroots kinda sucks
<midfavila>
mgr is only like 300k lines of code or something
<midfavila>
and it runs in about as many kb of memory
<kris_>
idk sway is pretty on point for me with how many features and otherwise i want it to have
<kris_>
the only thing it's missing is single window capture via its portal
<kris_>
which should be sorted sooner than later
* midfavila
shrugs
<midfavila>
i don't think i'll ever touch wayland on my own machines
<midfavila>
zero reason for me to care about it
<midfavila>
at all
<kris_>
i mean, depending on what kind of hardware you end up with in the future
<midfavila>
nah
<kris_>
i was semi okay with x11 until i got displays that vary in refresh rate
<midfavila>
i'm not upgrading any more
<midfavila>
lol
<midfavila>
i used to have four displays all with separate aspect ratios and resolutions and refresh rates
<kris_>
given my side monitor is 60hz and my main is 240hz id like them to both work as expected
<midfavila>
it was fine
<sewn>
kris_: I never had these issues on X
<sewn>
I have a similar setup and it worked nicely
<kris_>
if you don't run vsync then it's not a problem generally
<midfavila>
like i keep hearing about these things and it really just screams edge case to me
<kris_>
it's situational
<kris_>
like on gnome i used to force both displays to run at the framerate matching my highest refresh rate monitor
<kris_>
which causes screen tearing
<midfavila>
like one of my apple baby frens always goes off about fractional scaling but
<midfavila>
i just use bitmap fonts
<midfavila>
they're nicer anyway
<kris_>
on mate i used to just use picom with no vsync on one display
<kris_>
which causes screen tearing
<midfavila>
scalable fonts are always super blurry and blehhh
<kris_>
i couldnt tell you what my fonts are tbh
<midfavila>
i used to use clearsans
<midfavila>
but now i unironically just use x11 fixed
<kris_>
font-family: monospace;
<kris_>
font-size: 13px;
<sewn>
kris_: fc-match monospace
<kris_>
DejaVuSansMono.ttf: "DejaVu Sans Mono" "Book"
<kris_>
TIL about that command
<midfavila>
btw you might like btpd
<midfavila>
it's very much in the vein of all this
<sewn>
I honestly thought that was a mental disorder
<midfavila>
lmao
<midfavila>
i mean
<midfavila>
:v
<midfavila>
but no it's a suckless bittorrent client
<midfavila>
it's pretty nice
<sewn>
oh a past contributor of kiss made it
<sewn>
but its dead
<midfavila>
it's still usable
<sewn>
I guess its fine bittorrent doesn't change anyway
<sewn>
midfavila: I'd call it simple, not suckless
<midfavila>
the main challenge is that some torrent seeds want tls and it doesn't have tls but that's something i'd like to take a crack at
<kris_>
btpd?
<kris_>
bittorrent protocol daemon im guessing
<kris_>
or something
<midfavila>
yeah
<midfavila>
sewn: suckless endorses it
<midfavila>
so
* midfavila
shrugs
<sewn>
I dont really care
<sewn>
it is still a simple program
<kris_>
i just use rtorrent
<kris_>
which honestly isnt the most stable thing in the world but it's better than qbit overall
<midfavila>
i'm not gonna argue with you about whether something that suckless endorses is sufficiently suckless lmao
<midfavila>
it's too late for me to do that
<midfavila>
i'm getting old sewn
<sewn>
I'm not saying its not suckless
<sewn>
I'm saying its not worth being labeled it, suckless is shit
<sewn>
I might start using this
<midfavila>
suckless is mostly fine
<midfavila>
some of their stuff is garbo tho
<sewn>
I dont torrent anymore, what do you guys use it for - also no suckless is just a bunch of asshat hypocrites
<midfavila>
i agree by and large
<kris_>
ive just never found anything by them that i thought was particularly useful
<kris_>
i know a lot of people swear by dwm but i can't stand it for a multitude of reasons
<midfavila>
i don't like dwm either
<midfavila>
i mostly use like
<kris_>
st isnt the worst thing but foot is far better
<midfavila>
their coreutils and sdhcp and stuff
<midfavila>
i don't touch their gui stuff
<kris_>
i am curious about sinit tho
<midfavila>
i'll be fiddling with sinit in my custom distro
<midfavila>
likely just adapt kiss' baseinit to it at first
<midfavila>
go from there
<kris_>
runit is honestly the absolute peak of init to me
<sewn>
same
<sewn>
but since I moved to chimera I found dinit quite nice, its like a modern day supervision suite that doesn't sacrifice on convenience
<sewn>
*ahem* s6 *ahem*
<kris_>
i just don't want something like dinit because in the end i'm going to be using it to "bootstrap" shell scripts anyway because that's just how i wanna use my computer
<midfavila>
you would probably like sinit
<sewn>
also kris_ as ive contributed to great st patches and used it for 3 years, moving to foot was singlehandedly the best decision ive made
<midfavila>
afaik that's all it really does
<kris_>
but i do usually suggest that to systemd users who want to try something else but don't want to deal with running their system "manual mode"
<kris_>
yeah foot is literally *the* shit
<sewn>
its so much more modern and actually innovates
<kris_>
best terminal ive ever used by far
<midfavila>
mfw i just use xterm
<sewn>
it makes up terminal sequences for tui applications and participates in their standardization
<sewn>
works with other terminal emulators too to ensure stuff works
<sewn>
it doesn't even use Cairo!!! and its literally the fastest terminal emulator!!
<kris_>
its just the best balance of featured / fast to me
<kris_>
no bully but i tried out ghostty for a little bit
<kris_>
(couldn't fucking stand it)
<sewn>
i wouldn't even say its balanced I would say the author knows how to add shit without weighing the program down too much
<sewn>
yeah fuck ghostty
<sewn>
would rather use xterm
<kris_>
i like gnome-console, hot take
<kris_>
far better than gnomes old term
<kris_>
but i dont have gnome on any machines atm
<kris_>
only full DE i'm a fan of
<sewn>
wait how do you like that but not ghostty
<kris_>
it just seemed not necessary to me
<kris_>
i just didn't really love configuring it
<midfavila>
what about cde tho
<midfavila>
it's comfy
<kris_>
im also interested in their weird like imgui-esque debug menu
<kris_>
hell it might *be* imgui
<kris_>
takes me back to my days of working on cs:go cheats
<kris_>
i havent actually looked at the source to find that out though
<sewn>
midfavila is there a way I can try cde without suffering
<kris_>
midfavila nah gnome is the only DE that isn't unstable as hell and has wayland support
<kris_>
plus the workflow is peak as far as DEs go for me
<midfavila>
sewn netbsd packages it, could spin it up in qemu
<kris_>
pretty sure freebsd has good support for it as well
<sewn>
freebsd is a frankenstein
<kris_>
i havent tried netbsd before, might need to
<midfavila>
netbsd is fine
<midfavila>
it just werks
<sewn>
also I will try netbsd for that
<sewn>
the contributors are cute and aren't middle aged balding men
<kris_>
i just use void for everything i possibly can
<kris_>
albeit, openbsd for networking uses
<sewn>
void is old chimera is the good stuff :3c
<midfavila>
i should probably fiddle with bsd for networking stuff but i just use openwrt
<kris_>
ive been following chimeras development for a while
<kris_>
can't say i'm really all that into it
<kris_>
it's definitely interesting but not really my style
<kris_>
q66 is cool though, not sure about the rest of the community
<sewn>
once you try it you'll understand !!
<kris_>
i imagine given she's in charge it's pretty chill
<sewn>
the rest of the community are cute
<kris_>
sewn i have tried it
<sewn>
when I tried chimera initially I didnt like it
<kris_>
i don't like dinit and i feel weird about the whole microsofting my malloc shit
<sewn>
I gave it a second chance and tried to study the components
<kris_>
i get that it's objectively superior to mallocng but that just hits me the wrong way
<sewn>
yeah well what can you do about mimalloc lol
<kris_>
one thing i am closely following though is turnstile
<sewn>
not like there's a better option
<kris_>
i just run mallocng on my musl build
<sewn>
yes turnstile is an important component
<sewn>
kris_: you can switch out mimalloc for mallocng
<sewn>
in chimera
<kris_>
actually "my musl build" isnt anything special at all, it's just vanilla musl
<kris_>
because void is still on 1.1.24 i just updated it myself for my systems
<kris_>
sewn imagine a world where chimera uses runit
<sewn>
I actually can't imagine
<sewn>
runit is simple but it isn't for the modern desktop
<sewn>
imo
<sewn>
you can make it work but it will lack certain handy features
<kris_>
honestly i haven't found anything it's missing for me personally
<kris_>
which is kinda the thing with that, i don't want an init system to do more than this
<sewn>
but for most people runit is good
<sewn>
its enough
<kris_>
i could definitely make just stringing together some shell scripts work
<sewn>
for people who want refined service control with dependency management they use runit
<sewn>
kiss and void have some service files that just not start if a dependency isn't met
<sewn>
essentially a hack
<kris_>
yeah, it just retries on a loop until it succeeds
<kris_>
that's the one "issue" with it but i don't really think it's a real problem
<sewn>
you should give a look at the dinit man page
<sewn>
just for ffun
<kris_>
i may
<kris_>
i looked through the github page
<sewn>
I might look into making an xbps from-source (ironic I know) distro
<sewn>
apk is great but xbps has features apk doesn't have lol
<kris_>
nah i dont think that's ironic
<kris_>
xbps-src is fucking peak
<sewn>
nnnooo
<sewn>
I said xbps
<sewn>
xbps-src is not that notable to me
<sewn>
its just a collection of bash scripts and more bash that make xbps packages
<kris_>
oh i misread what you said
<kris_>
my b it's 2am
<sewn>
that or I make a rewrite of kiss in either zig or go or hare
<sewn>
but I'm just dreaming for now
* kris_
loves golang
<sewn>
I recently fixed my baby computer and I might get back into it
<sewn>
I love go too but I would not use it for an important system component
<sewn>
I feel like it doesn't fit
<kris_>
kiss is completely valid for me as it already is, i just need to finish packaging some stuff
<kris_>
elogind kicked my ass, i still dont have it working
<sewn>
use turnstile :3
<kris_>
albeit i intend on forking the package manager to have it build in isolation
<kris_>
sewn honestly weirdest thing but i couldnt get my xbox one controller working when i was using only seatd
<kris_>
idk how this part of the system works like at all though so
<sewn>
its because no permissions for that controller kris
<sewn>
you don't have udev setup properly
<kris_>
...nah, i did
<sewn>
or udevd or mdev or whatever
<sewn>
false information
<kris_>
i just swapped over to elogind and it kicked alive though :c
<kris_>
(on void)
<sewn>
no way I call cap
<sewn>
it worked fine for me on kiss
<kris_>
see what i mean by weird
<sewn>
bluez and wired
<kris_>
it was probably just a brain moment to be fair this has been like 4 years
<sewn>
4 years bruh
<kris_>
3*
<kris_>
yeah i havent explored it since
<sewn>
that's longer than ive used kiss I think
<kris_>
which is why i mentioned watching turnstile closely
<sewn>
(ive been on chimera ever since my PC broke and was on chimera anyway because PC PSU was a bomb)
<kris_>
ive been pretty much void only for 3 years now
<sewn>
you should probabbtl go to sleep
<kris_>
they're the only people i trust to not do something stupid that prompts me to bail
<kris_>
every time i try another distro i just get burnt so it's either void or do it myself
<kris_>
imo anyway
<kris_>
i had a brief few month long stint with alpine and hated my life
<sewn>
what
<sewn>
no way
<sewn>
alpine is great
<sewn>
what wenr weong
<kris_>
mostly i just can't tolerate openrc
<kris_>
and bluntly it doesn't really seem that well tested, i came across quite a few broken packages, and no i can't name any specifically other than when 3.21 shipped with a broken gummiboot-efistub
<kris_>
which isnt really their fault but it was never tested
<kris_>
had i updated my machines would have stopped booting right then
<kris_>
it took weeks for them to fix this unfortunately
<sewn>
yeah I wouldn't use gummiboot
<sewn>
also yeah some packages just stop working but they put out blogs and I guess thats cool
<sewn>
also goodnight midfavila and kris i
<kris_>
nah gummiboot-efistub is specifically the stub you roll into UKIs
<kris_>
i don't use bootloaders
<kris_>
replaced by systemds efistub, which i did successfully package for kiss
<kris_>
but gn
<midfavila>
see you sewn
<sewn>
:'3 !!!!!!
<midfavila>
bruh it's 0115 and my neighbour decided now of all times is great to break out the drill
<kris_>
im just kind of awake because family were yelling at eachother so
<kris_>
i guess im just not going to go to bed
<kris_>
midfavila are you a speaker, headphone, or earbud type
<midfavila>
headphone
<midfavila>
earbuds are shit in terms of audio quality and mucho uncomfy
<midfavila>
speakers would get me evicted
<midfavila>
lol
<kris_>
oh earbuds are absolutely not shit if you get some like 25 usd IEMs
<kris_>
just gotta get specifically chifi IEMs
<midfavila>
earbuds are absolutely shit
<kris_>
nuh uh
<midfavila>
they never stay in my ears
<midfavila>
they're uncomfortable
<kris_>
yeah me neither except for a few very specific ones
<midfavila>
most of them now require bluetooth
<kris_>
ofc everyones ears are different so i cant recommend you anything though
<kris_>
nah fuck bluetooth
<kris_>
top 10 worst ideas
<midfavila>
a good pair of headphones will always beat out earbuds
<kris_>
rn i'm using the 7hz x crinacle zero:2
<midfavila>
i have some old mdr 7506 headphones around here somewhere
<kris_>
and *imo* they SHIT on my sennheiser hd598sr, sennheiser hd58x, beyerdynamic amiron home / dt 770 / dt 1770 pro
<midfavila>
i need to get a dremel and drill and stuff and do surgery to fix the cable
<kris_>
for >25 usd
<kris_>
they're just more detailed
<kris_>
less soundstage though
<kris_>
obviously
<midfavila>
for what it's worth i also don't super care about maximum audio quality
<midfavila>
like i don't bother with flac or external audio setps
<kris_>
neither do i,
<midfavila>
setups
* kris_
likes big slapping bass
<kris_>
which is also why i looove IEMs
<midfavila>
i just use mp3s and my xonar stx
<midfavila>
they're fine
<kris_>
speakers make me tweak out though
<kris_>
i can't handle it, it's too stimulating
<kris_>
it's like a toned down version of me hiding and covering my ears on the 4th of july because people start shooting off fireworks like crazy
<kris_>
can't explain why it's just too much
<kris_>
and yeah i only store flacs because they're small and theres no point in archiving lower quality music
<midfavila>
most of what i have i just rip from youtube using invidious so
<midfavila>
flacs aren't really an option
<kris_>
there are services out there with practically no drm like deezer and qobuz
<midfavila>
i doubt what i want would be on there and i'm too poor to pay for that shit lmao
<midfavila>
i don't have 1-2$ for every song i want to listen to
<kris_>
oh i don't uh
<kris_>
i haven't paid for media of any kind in a very long time
<midfavila>
also why would i use those
<midfavila>
legitimate question
<kris_>
genuinely just if you want flacs
<midfavila>
fair
<kris_>
i can abx test flac vs 320kbps mp3 on $25 IEMs
<kris_>
and it is something i actively notice
<kris_>
but that doesn't apply to the majority of music, most of it is too poorly made to matter bluntly
<kris_>
i only have 218GiB of music right now though
<kris_>
i used to have like 3x this amount of all flac but i deleted all of it during my last OCD episode
<midfavila>
rip
<midfavila>
sorry i'm focusing on getting some stuff for my distro done
<kris_>
oh totally fine dw about it
<kris_>
i probably should do the same
* midfavila
nod-nods
<kris_>
i have such a cute name for my package manager that it's somehow a driving force behind wanting to finish it
<midfavila>
at this point i've given up on getting a full port of kiss on the uconsole so
<midfavila>
i'm just working on my own setup
<kris_>
yeah im probably going to do a from scratch type of deal
<kris_>
heavily inspired by kiss but rather different
<midfavila>
i've spent literaly months on just trying to get gcc to build and i'm not gonna bang my head against the wall any more lol
<midfavila>
getting it to build natively on riscv is a nightmare
<kris_>
yeah i bet
<midfavila>
okay it's 0200 and i have to get up at 0730 for work
<midfavila>
time for beb
<midfavila>
nini
<kris_>
nini
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<sewn>
kris_: I can't hear a diff between mp3 and flac on all of my iems
<kris_>
welcome back sewn
<kris_>
and yeah, it just depends on the specific music in my exp
<sewn>
oh no i was always here I just assumed you two were sleeping
<kris_>
pink floyds dsotm is an obvious example for me
<kris_>
rumors by fleetwood mac too
<sewn>
ive tried on 40$ iems
<sewn>
and two 30$ ones
<kris_>
the ones i abx tested on were the tangzu wan'er
<sewn>
yeah I had that as well
<kris_>
it's shockingly less blatant on my truthear novas but still audible
<sewn>
before it broke
<kris_>
my 7hz x crinacle zero:2 just brokie :c
<sewn>
oh what
<sewn>
ok well how is it
<sewn>
and how did it break
<kris_>
usually these cheapo iems dont last very long for me
<kris_>
driver came loose in the shell, ill try to fix it later
<sewn>
I had that with my waner :0
<kris_>
my wan'er still work they're just irritating to me sound wise
<sewn>
ive tried the cadenza, waner, hola, ew200, and now the vivace I got yesterday
<kris_>
not enough :b:ass
<kris_>
and they don't respond well to eq
<kris_>
albeit nothing does really
<sewn>
for me the waner was good but the ew200 is just fatiguing
<kris_>
my truthear novas just hurt my ears
<sewn>
which thankfully helps me rule out ALOT of iems
<kris_>
i have smol ears
<kris_>
almost all iems hurt
<sewn>
oh wow the nova is expensive
<kris_>
they're usable for like 3 hours max before i have to swap to something else
<sewn>
for me most iems are too small
<kris_>
yeah its the closest harman iem you can buy if you use the foam tips
<sewn>
I'd rather pay less
<kris_>
i do not though because doesnt fit
<sewn>
I might return my vicace
<kris_>
tbh havent heard of those
<sewn>
its good but its not that much of a difference over my previous truthear holas
<sewn>
vivace*
<kris_>
if i were to buy a set of iems rn itd be the new crinacle blue:2
<kris_>
big bass with that impedance adapter
<sewn>
you just said you got it
<kris_>
nah i have the zero:2
<sewn>
ohhh
<sewn>
oh yeah no those are bad
<sewn>
lol
<sewn>
hm
<sewn>
the vivace fits SO GOOS
<kris_>
the zero:2 sound perfect to me outside of like slightly lacking subbass
<sewn>
but the sound isn't all that difference
<sewn>
I might return it for a kefine klean
<kris_>
the midbass is flawless to me and the midrange/treble should be exactly how it is on the zero:2 imo
<sewn>
or spend more to get a zero:red or a zero:2
<kris_>
reds are cool, i have a few friends who own those and like them
<sewn>
crinacle recently said the 7hz g1 is basically best budget option rn but its actually close to ew200 in sound but still has more bass
<kris_>
i've considered picking up a pair
<sewn>
not sure about it
<kris_>
his most recent release is the most appealing to me
<sewn>
before that was the vivace by tripowin and 0xdb (korean ytber)