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<midfavila> okay i can officially recommend that anyone looking for boots in the future *not* purchase solovair's hi-shine or other corrected leathers
<midfavila> i got some new laces in the mail today and when i went to lace up my boots i found that there was a break in the leather near my toes. haven't even had these for a year
<midfavila> deffo complaining
<midfavila> maybe it's just a manufacturing defect but for ~300$ after currency conversion i expected at least a few years out of them
<midfavila> my shitty half-rate doc martens have lasted over ten years
<kris_> ive heard good things about docs
<kris_> i just couldnt find any i thought looked nice when i was shopping around
<midfavila> docs used to be good because they used to be made by solovair
<midfavila> that's why i had high hopes
<midfavila> i have a post-acquisition pair of docs
<midfavila> made in thailand is how you can tell, instead of britain
<midfavila> not to criticise thailand, the company that bought docs just cheaped out on labour and materiel
<midfavila> honestly it's partly my fault for getting corrected leather, i should have gotten full grain, but yeah
<midfavila> aside from the corrected leather being crummy the boots are great
<kris_> tbh dunno anything about it
<kris_> my timbs are nubuck and i've already scuffed them up when kicking snow off of my shoes which sucks
<midfavila> my next pair is just going to be full grain.
<midfavila> i don't care if they get scuffed, that's why you polish them
<midfavila> i've heard good things about red wing fwiw
<kris_> dunno, i'm pretty picky about shoes due to deformed ankles
<kris_> timbs are comfortable enough to enable me to walk for a little while so i went with those
<kris_> oddly enough, converse are also fine
<midfavila> that's fair
<kris_> converse being fine is such a buff because they're the most gorgeous shoes ever made imo
* midfavila shrugs
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<riteo> new ultrakill update dropped
<riteo> I gotta CONSOOM
<riteo> yes yes yes y es yes yes yes yesy sey sey sye yse ys ysey sey sey esyey sy eyyes ye
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<midfavila> ultrakill all the barriers holding you back in life
<riteo> holy moly they cooked _hard_
<riteo> "yes don't worry the coders are busy redoing everything but in the meantime we redid some graphics stuff"
<riteo> *casually remaster the whole game*
<riteo> with two huge extra levels thrown in too
<riteo> I enjoyed
<kris_> ive been itching to play dayz recently
<kris_> its hard to find people to play dayz with
<kris_> okay ultrakill looks wild, this is the first time i've heard of this agme
<riteo> yes ultrakill is very good if you are into chaining game mechanics and getting absolutely overwhelmed by a shitload of monsters
<riteo> I mean that's extremely reductive but it's 6:28 here so this is the best my brain will be able to produce
<riteo> I might have not been able to wait the night to play this game
<kris_> no worries, found some gameplay anyway
<riteo> kris_: if you plan to get it remember that they just dropped this huge remaster
<riteo> it feels like a different game almost, they even redid some level geometry
<riteo> really polished it up, although as one might expect it's a bit... glitchy, at least with me using the "psx style" option
<kris_> good multiplayer?
<riteo> I really think they did not care about it, wonder if they'll deprecate it eventually. Style was way different then
<riteo> no multiplayer, by design
<kris_> probably not something ill pick up then
<kris_> i only have fun with multiplayer games for whatever reason
<riteo> there are mods but you're an extremely powerful robot with quasi-auto-aim weapons
<riteo> it's not balanceable apparently
<riteo> re multiplayer: fair
<kris_> dayz is my jam but i've been unsuccessful with getting friends to play it
<kris_> they always decide it's too difficult to be fun within an hour or two and don't play anymore
<riteo> oof
<riteo> the pain is real
<kris_> truly
<kris_> finding good games these days is kinda hard
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<sad_plan> kris_: midfavila check out whites if you want really good boots. never tried them myself, but theyre supposedly really good. iirc, you can even create custom ones aswell
<midfavila> sad_plan phew
<midfavila> those aren't cheap
<midfavila> they do look pretty robust at first glance though
<midfavila> i'll probably still get a pair of full-grain from solovair if i can work something out with their customer service team since i'm saving but if i have the money in the future they look like they'd last a really long time
<midfavila> doesn't look like they have many ten-inch boots though
<sad_plan> midfavila: look at it as an investment. but yeah, theyre not cheap :p
<midfavila> oh no absolutely
<midfavila> one of the few things i don't mind spending a chunk of change on is boots
<midfavila> brb
<midfavila> but yeah i need taller boots for ankle support since i have to do a fair amount of heavy lifting at work
<midfavila> despite theoretically being the tech dweeb i also have to run triple duty as shipping and receiving, and retail, and that means hauling a bunch of construction crap around
<sad_plan> I think its a buy once, cry once type of thing really. atleat if you take care of them. them boots could last you 20 years if you take properly care of them. maybe
<sad_plan> never really got the deal with using boots, appart from maybe being in the woods, or for work. but outside of that, I dunno man. is this a NA thing?
<midfavila> it's an NA thing
<midfavila> there's like
<midfavila> people who wear boots because they're on their feet a lot or need the support or w/e
<midfavila> and then there's the pickup truck guy
<midfavila> and it's mostly the latter
<midfavila> in recent years people have started really jerking off the whole rough and tough muh working class AeStHeTiC
<sad_plan> right.. I get that if you need the support boots give, which shoes would not provide, using boots makes sense. but I rearly see people with boots here, except in the winter, or perhaps in the woods
<midfavila> yeah that's fair.
<sad_plan> maybe for work, but even that I dont see all to often
<midfavila> it's definitely a canada/us thing
<midfavila> idk about the rest of NA
<midfavila> (i'm trying to stop using north america as a synonym for can-us...)
<midfavila> i also tend to wear the same pair of footwear year round
<midfavila> so i need something that works in all conditions
<midfavila> that might be part of it for some people. shoes are expensive and it's better to buy one good pair than multiple shitty pairs
<midfavila> at most i'll have like, my regular boots, my dress shoes, a pair of runners, and then if i'm replacing an old pair i'll keep them around as like, crappy wearing-around-the-house shoes for chores or w/e
<sad_plan> if you wear the same shoes/boots year round, dont you get terribly cold feet, or vice versa in the oposite season?
<midfavila> not usually
<midfavila> in the winter i just wear a pair of wool socks and in the warmer seasons i have thinner hemp ones
<sad_plan> I used to wear vans year round, but as Ive greown older, I now appreciate having warm feet instead of wearing terrible shoes all year
<sad_plan> figured as much
<midfavila> :p
<midfavila> if it's really cold i'll wear multiple pairs
<midfavila> recently we had a few days below -50
<midfavila> of course then yesterday it was like +5
<sad_plan> not that I dont like vans shoes, theyre just the oposite of warm
<sad_plan> thats wild. we rearly have -20c something
<midfavila> yeah canada sucks
<sad_plan> it doesnt suck, its just wild
<midfavila> personally i would kill for not getting below -20 ish
<midfavila> -50 plus wind chill is brutal
<midfavila> i unironically wear a cloak when it gets that cold because even a parka isn't enough
<midfavila> fortunately it's only that cold in january
<midfavila> usually winter is like -20 to -30
<midfavila> brb
<midfavila> back (again)
<midfavila> boss has me running a bunch of errands
<sad_plan> I think even -20 is rather brutal. and even more so -30, and -50 just sounds absurdly cold
<midfavila> yeah it's not great
<midfavila> i can deal with -20 pretty easily but once you start getting past -40 that's too cold for me to be out for long
<sad_plan> I wanna visit canada, but Im not sure I want when its -50. damn. I dont have clothes for that
<midfavila> lol the only parts that get that cold are the parts you wouldn't want to visit
<midfavila> aka the midwest
<sad_plan> I cant fit that in a 22L backpack. or a 36L for that matter
<midfavila> it's actually warmer in the northern territories for a good chunk of the year because at least they get a ton of sun
<midfavila> the coastal regions get warm fronts off the water
<midfavila> and ON and QC most people live in cities so you get a bunch of waste heat
<sad_plan> I wish we had more sun here. so one can use solarpower, and it actually be worth it
<midfavila> AB/SK/MB are plains and only have smaller towns and cities with fewer windbreaks
<midfavila> honestly SK could lead in solar if they weren't run by idiots
<midfavila> it's insanely bright here
<midfavila> like it's so fucking sunny outside of a few months in winter
<midfavila> it's wild
<midfavila> like it's hurt-your-eyes bright
<sad_plan> sounds awefull
<midfavila> yeah there's not many people in SK for a reason :D
<sad_plan> although I can relate, when snowboarding, and its sunny
<sad_plan> right
<midfavila> -50 in the winter, +50 in the summer
<midfavila> the government has historically had a lot of issues getting people to move to the prairie provinces excepting manitoba
<sad_plan> ateast the seasons are really appart. here its summer, and then fall all the way to spring so to speak. we do get some snow, but not a whole lot. usually. anyway. last year we did get a lot of snow though
<midfavila> i wish we just got a long fall instead of half a year of winter qwq
<midfavila> we get maybe a month of fall
<midfavila> sometimes a little longer
<sad_plan> I see
<sad_plan> I like proper seasons. not like this sad winter we got. not to speak of our somewhat sad summers aswell, where it rains and is cloudy a large amount of days
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<kris_> snow == happy
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<sad_plan> kris_: if only the snow actually stayed, I would agree. we could have 20cm of snow in a day, and the next day, it all melts away
<kris_> during winter where i live the snow kinda just stays long term
<kris_> but it's only pretty for a day or two until it becomes all fucked up by cars and pushed into piles by snow plows
<sad_plan> right. here we're lucky if it stays a few weeks
<midfavila> yeah wait until you guys get a metre or more of snow in a single night
<midfavila> that's very much not happy lol
<midfavila> a lot of cities here have to have special trucks to haul snow to a dump site because we get so much of it that it can't even be cleared properly
<sad_plan> I dont see that happening any time soon. I live next to the sea, so we dont get that much snow at all really. I think we got 0.5M last year, at tops. havent seen that for years now really
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