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<kris_>
midfavila yeah i'll probably do that tomorrow
<kris_>
i expected to get an email from them but didn't
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<riteo>
guess who's back, for the... I lost count of how many times
<riteo>
hopefully this will be my last big bouncer shutdown, unless my parents kick me out of the house or something
<sad_plan>
lol. welcome back riteo
<kris_>
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<riteo>
ty folks
<riteo>
gm everyone
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<midfavila>
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<riteo>
hi mid!!!!!!11111 !! :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd
<midfavila>
1!!!1!!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!1!11111one
<riteo>
yes
<riteo>
how's life going mid
<midfavila>
well i saw another racist attack yesterday which was cool and fuckin normal
<midfavila>
now im watching EMTs drag people out of a wreck omw to work
<midfavila>
so, you know, same as always
<midfavila>
you?
<riteo>
oof
<riteo>
big things happening all close toghether
<riteo>
just came back from some gradudation parties, starting to distance myself from a certain tg group (no nazis or other things dw, just old friends)
<riteo>
now I'm doing a super crazy wayland protocol manipulation thing to implement a godot thing in the weirdest way possible
<riteo>
and I have an exam in like a month
<riteo>
also I came back sick :DDDDDDDDDD
<riteo>
(the tg thing is like an extreme simplification, it's way more complicated than it sounds)
<riteo>
I live in a pretty wealthy family actually so I paid like, full thing
<midfavila>
wow humblebrag :p
<riteo>
although halved for this year because maxed high school
<riteo>
double humble
<riteo>
:P
<midfavila>
but i'm glad you don't have to take out debt
<midfavila>
it's really rare for people here to be able to afford school, unfortunately
<riteo>
that's a bummer
<riteo>
wealth-dependent stuff is too socialist unfortunately
<riteo>
even fucking tiered taxes are controversial to some here
<riteo>
like, what is so hard to understand that rich people have a lot of excess money?
<riteo>
"ye but they spend more money" yes on super luxury cars and 300 empty houses
<riteo>
also why is trudeau doing public transport
<midfavila>
honestly i don't know
<midfavila>
but i'll take it
<midfavila>
trudeau has honestly been super based recently somehow
<midfavila>
it's wild
<midfavila>
he's on his cicero ark
<riteo>
maybe got a gut punch or something
<riteo>
maybe other people or the economy looking bad idk
<midfavila>
trump has somehow made a statesman out of trudeau
<riteo>
lmao
<midfavila>
tiered taxes are super controversial here too
<midfavila>
but like
<riteo>
trudeau realized that doing the same thing as trump was a bad idea
<midfavila>
if i can be completely honest i think that's because most canadians are just stupid?
<riteo>
could see it with his eyes
<midfavila>
not to huff my farts but like
<midfavila>
people legitimately
<midfavila>
*legitimately*
<midfavila>
cannot comprehend the arithmetic behind taxes
<midfavila>
not the laws
<midfavila>
the arithmetic
<riteo>
bruh
<midfavila>
they don't understand that you can't just add provincial and federal tax rates to sales tax to get adjusted income tax
<midfavila>
so you have people who are paying an adjusted income tax of 11% claiming they're paying almost 50% in taxes
<midfavila>
and it's just...
<midfavila>
fucking stop
<midfavila>
like first of all you have federal basic amounts to claim
<midfavila>
then you have provincial basic amounts
<midfavila>
then you get to write off certain expenses to reduce your taxable income
<midfavila>
and it's only once you have those deductions off that you can determine how much you owe
<midfavila>
also
<midfavila>
they don't grasp that most of what people spend money on isn't taxable
<midfavila>
like food and rent and shit
<midfavila>
of course when you try to explain this they just call you a liberal crony
<midfavila>
nvm the fact that i'm a fucking communist
<riteo>
lmao
<riteo>
communism is when taxes
<riteo>
no wait I think I did the meme wrong
<riteo>
shit
<midfavila>
no thats accurate for people here
<midfavila>
nvm the fact that if it wasnt for the ccf-ndp, literally a communist party in their early days, this province would be an absolute wasteland
<midfavila>
its so funny
<midfavila>
tommy douglas is considered the greatest canadian and the guy was literally a commie
<midfavila>
through and through
<riteo>
they'll hopefully realize with the america thing going on
<riteo>
as it's already happening I think with trudeau
<riteo>
I mean why else would he do a 180 all of a sudden
<midfavila>
and yet the same people who puff out their chest about how great medicare is as a national achievement and how incredible T.D. was will turn around and lose their fucking mind about even the most basic of socialist policies
<midfavila>
riteo i think it's moreso that for the past year and a half the tories have been shredding the liberals in terms of public perception
<riteo>
there's a level of cognitive dissonance is finally reaching a tipping point
<riteo>
but... but... socialism bad!!!
<riteo>
america told me!
<riteo>
wait
<riteo>
and so on
<midfavila>
nobody likes poillievre but they dislike trudeau more and so to have a candidate come out and start expressing frustration in a public fashion feels vindicating to a lot of people
<midfavila>
and i mean it's less "socialism bad vuvuzela 100 million dead iphone america freedom burger" and more "well actually it's just not practical"
<riteo>
I don't think that explains why people go out of their way to remove things already done
<riteo>
like, it's by definition practical if it has been done for 20 years
<midfavila>
it's because the ruling parties are both liberal
<midfavila>
small l
<midfavila>
we have the ndp in some small way but they usually don't have enough power to force policies through
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