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<midfavila> fwah
<midfavila> i have to read about microshit for the rest of the month
<midfavila> shoot me now
<midfavila> going to sit my second a+ exam later this month
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<kris_> midfavila you doing it at home or at a testing center of some sort?
<midfavila> testing centre
<midfavila> >implying their proctoring malware would run on my computers
<midfavila> >implying i own a microphone or camera
<midfavila> i already have my 1101 which i wasn't super concerned about since that's just hardware
<midfavila> the only thing i had major issues with was memorising the fifty bajillion variants of USB there are now, but i also just dont care about the specific bandiwdth of usb 4 2x1 gen 3.3 or whatever lol
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<midfavila> the real problem is the 1102 bc i haven't used windows in a major capacity since like tenth grade in high school
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<kris_> >>implying their proctoring malware would run on my computers
<kris_> that's why i'm asking, that stopped me from taking the A+
<midfavila> yeah fair
<kris_> it costs too much money for me to want to attempt to run it in a VM
<midfavila> i wanted to take it when i was in NB but there were no testing centres in my city
<midfavila> fortunately i am now approximately 600 metres from a testing centre
<kris_> i figure im going to just have to set up a dedicated garbage PC to run windows and proctoring software on and put it on a different network
<midfavila> altho considering my home internet connection is only 5/5 i doubt it would be sufficient for proctoring anyway
<kris_> i may be mildly insane but i dont trust windows enough to be on the same network as my actual machines, let alone that bullshit they make you install
<midfavila> kris_ yeah just subnet it and stick a firewall between it and the rest of things
<kris_> yerp
<midfavila> merp
<midfavila> :3c
<kris_> >:3
<midfavila> just computer autism things
<kris_> it's up to your imagination if that's an > or eyebrows
<midfavila> both
<midfavila> unibrow
<kris_> hexabrow
<midfavila> wack
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<midfavila> i should try and get a job admining plan 9
<midfavila> that would be so gomfy
<midfavila> i doubt anyone actually uses it any more tho
<midfavila> i know alcatel did for a while
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<kris_> there may be a strat there
<kris_> linux admins are aplenty, bsd admins less so, plan 9 admins don't exist
<midfavila> i wonder why
* midfavila thoinks
<kris_> ive been considering getting deeper into fortran and cobol
<kris_> ive seen multiple jobs that pay stupid amounts of money for fortran devs
<midfavila> honestly if you can do cobol go for it
<midfavila> infinite job security
<kris_> fortran was one of my first "real" languages
<midfavila> the only people who know cobol are sitting in like, old age homes these days
<kris_> toyed with it before C
<midfavila> i saw IBM was offering free lessons in cobol and fortran a while back
<midfavila> same with z/OS
<kris_> oh i dont know the first thing about cobol but it can be learned
<midfavila> ive honestly given up on getting a job programming
<midfavila> i have negative interest in the web and it's basically impossible for me to go to university at this point so
<midfavila> meh
<midfavila> brb
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<kris_> ive always been more of an admin type so never really wanted to do software dev as a job and yeah i have negative interest in the web as well
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<midfavila> honestly with the way dev has gone the past few years esp i definitely don't want to do it professionally
<midfavila> the whole "move fast break things" mindset makes me want to puke
<kris_> yeah, which is partially why i'm so picky about what distros i'll use
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<kris_> but software dev will probably be a dead profession at some point:tm: '
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<kris_> actual physical IT is safe for a while
<midfavila> honestly ive just accepted that in a few years we'll all be dirt farmers
<midfavila> drop the bombs already
<midfavila> get it over with
<kris_> dylan mighta been onto something then
<midfavila> dylan is basically computer jesus tbf
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<sad_plan> kris_: using any other dns would solve this in any case. luckiy my goverent doesnt really do anything about torrenting, so I dont strictly need a vpn for this
<sad_plan> midfavila: in a few years, only the rich would afford housing. the rest of us would be homeless and jobless, living in a ditch someplace fighting for scraps :p
<sad_plan> and computer jesus Dylan's farm would be raided eventually. even his POSIX sh famring scripts cant save him from the devestation
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<riteo> wassup kissers
<riteo> as you can tell this will be a rocky month
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<riteo> quite a few things to do and I'll need to power off my bouncer for a good amount of time
<riteo> also sorry kris_ for missing your "wby"
<riteo> sorry I meant "wbu"
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<kris_> sad_plan yeah its no big deal
<kris_> riteo all good
<sewn> install(1) is not posix compliant..
<sewn> i finally reached into an issue with a bsd user where i use install -t flag which is not present in freebsd install
<sewn> time to resort to regular cp/mv/rm ...
<sewn> ... or add a / to the end of the destination directory as an alternative to -t :3
<sad_plan> sewn: this is old news really. dylan complained about this long time ago aswell. so we have to use chmod cp/mv instead when installing
<sewn> so bad
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<sewn> also apparently the -t workaround doesnt work either
<sad_plan> just dont use install(1) and youre all good C:
<aosync> install(1) is a bit confusing
<sad_plan> aosync: theres nothing confusing about install(1), just dont use it :p
<sad_plan> hm, sewn sbase install mentions its a mix of gnu's and freebsd. curious
<sewn> I just ranted for half an hour about how terrible freebsd and POSIX make is
<sad_plan> funny :p
<kris_> ranting for half an hour over make is pretty based