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<phoebos>
ayyy good stuff mid
<midfavila>
i'm still having some trouble establishing consistent connections with wpa_supplicant
<midfavila>
i would use eiwd but i don't have access to the kernel source and it doesn't include crypto modules it needs
<midfavila>
and networkmanager is networkmanager
<midfavila>
connecting using a psk sends the supplicant into a connect-disconnect loop citing reason 3 and using a text key gets me a very stern warning from the kernel on dmesg
<midfavila>
at least, when i try to connect to my phone's hotspot it does that
<midfavila>
i've had issues with wpa_sup in the past so i'm liable to blame it more than anything else :x
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<midfavila>
i really need to get myself an openwrt one
<midfavila>
i am fucking determined to make the uconsole useful
<midfavila>
i need to compile wiringpi at some point for the uconsole as well
<midfavila>
for some god forsaken reason they decided to put the PCI bus on their GPIO pins
<midfavila>
along with, according to people who have looked at the schematics everything fucking else
* midfavila
squints
<midfavila>
doesn't bother me much 'cause i wasn't intending to use the gpio but still
<midfavila>
wtf
<midfavila>
also on the topic i have to say that i hate how looking up anything ends with staring at ten pages of results specifically for Pi stuff >.>
<midfavila>
this is going away for tonight
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<sewn>
finally pc built
<sewn>
I'm dissapointed by what mid said
<sewn>
it can't be true kiss packages are like this
<midfavila>
re: some unusual choices wrt: formatting?
<sewn>
also {foo,bar} isnt POSIX in shell so listing out individual paths is forced
<midfavila>
is it not? fair enough then
<sewn>
as for the /use/lib and /usr/share/man
<sewn>
some packages install libs to /usr/lib64
<sewn>
as for man I have no clue
<midfavila>
okay i got wpa supplicant to at least connect briefly again but then it dies with an error 3 and starts over...
<midfavila>
(i lied i can't actually stop myself from working on this paperweight at this point)
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<sewn>
looks like someones happy
<midfavila>
moreso i just want this to be over and done with already
<midfavila>
ive been working on this on and off for about a month now
<midfavila>
aaaaaaaaaaaa im gonna rip my hair out
<midfavila>
i saw some stuff online suggesting it might be due to dhcp so i tried a few different clients and no dice
<midfavila>
the worst part is that it'll get on there for a few seconds and then just die
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<kmf>
Hello, did anybody get blender working on kisslinux? it compiled succesfully for me, but it crashes while exiting, says that my graphics driver is not supported and shows it as Unkown, it is also worth mentioning that neofetch doesn't output the GPU line, even though it does with the same kernel on a differenet os (void), and vulkaninfo shows my card correctly.
<kmf>
I have an intel hd graphics 4000 that uses i915 by the way, and it uses the crocus mesa driver, but for whatever reason it doesn't seem to be shown in neofetch or inxi, don't know if that means anything or no
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<midfavila>
got it!
<midfavila>
it was definitely a buggy release
<midfavila>
rolling back has a stable connection
* midfavila
lets out a huge sigh of relief
<midfavila>
next thing is for tomorrow, and is gonna be getting wiringpi and mbim wan back up...
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<sewn>
where ehawkvu
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<sewn>
is testuser here
<sewn>
what the hell is spirv llvm translator
<sewn>
do people here like just adding new dependencies without questioning it now
<sewn>
yeah that's not needed for most people
<sewn>
I wish there was more care towards mesa because it is a mess when trying to add ALL the drivers
<midfavila>
where sewn
<midfavila>
where he at
<midfavila>
what he doin
<sewn>
hello I am here
<midfavila>
how he be
<midfavila>
hello
<midfavila>
:3
<sewn>
I am installing kiss
<sewn>
I am in my room
<sewn>
I am contemplating uninstalling
<midfavila>
t y p i c a l k i s s u s e r
<midfavila>
always sitting in their rooms playing with computers
<midfavila>
you'll never uninstall though
<midfavila>
:3c
<sewn>
I've used alpine for months before kiss
<midfavila>
alpine is okay i guess
<sewn>
I will uninstall if this doesn't work lol
<midfavila>
im not a fan of it for desktop use
<midfavila>
i dont mind kiss either but i think pm is more my speed these days
<midfavila>
i do still like it though.
<sewn>
what's pm
<midfavila>
z3bra's "pack manager"
<midfavila>
basically just takes a tarball, tracks what files it contains, and dumps its contents on the filesystem
<midfavila>
just unpacks a tarball and installs its contents. you can check a manifest, uninstall, and upgrade/reinstall in place, and that's it
<midfavila>
its like a few hundred lines of C
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<midfavila>
holy shit its sadplan
<midfavila>
:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
<midfavila>
you should be happyplan
<sadplan>
yep. i mustve killed tmux last time i sshd into the server for some reason. the config was also all borked, so I couldnt do much of anything :p
<sadplan>
ive heard that one before :p
<midfavila>
then clearly the people have spoken
* midfavila
yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawns
<midfavila>
christ i need tea
<midfavila>
brb
<midfavila>
goal for today is getting wiringpi or equivalent up on the uconsole and testing tinymbim
<sadplan>
and I dont intend to listen :p
<sewn>
midfavila: ermm
<sewn>
I mean if anything it'd just a tarball manager
<sewn>
where do the tarballs come from
<sewn>
how do you build
<midfavila>
doesn't matter to pm. i'll probably end up doing something similar to what slackware does with slackbuilds
<midfavila>
ive always liked how slackbuilds work
<sadplan>
sewn: youd have to write a script for that stuff manually. which is kinda why I dont like pm. although it might make it more versatile, as users are more free to conjure up w/e solution they like themselfes
<sewn>
that doesn't answer my questionss
<sewn>
if your ystm is managed by pm
<sewn>
where do you get your 'packs' from
<sadplan>
youd have to create them yourself
sadplan is now known as sad_plan
<sad_plan>
build package -> create tarball -> use pm to install
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<midfavila>
^
<midfavila>
or get them from wherever assuming someone else made one
<midfavila>
you could build by hand or using a script or w/e
<sad_plan>
correct. kiss-bin could be an alternative, but I suppose every other binary distro would work technically
<midfavila>
yeah but pm is in c and even smol-er
<midfavila>
:3c
<sad_plan>
so ironically, you could create your own ubuntu fork, but without apt
<sad_plan>
kiss-bin isnt a command, but a repo. but its dead in the water afaik :p
<sad_plan>
but yes, pm is in C, for better of for worse I suppose
<sad_plan>
s/of/or/
<sewn>
how would fetching, building, making a tar (sometimes by hand) and installing it via pm any better than kiss b pkg
<midfavila>
it satisfies my fussiness better than kiss does
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<sad_plan>
its also worth noting that is 1k less LOC, however, I dont like that fact that it depends ond libarchive
<sad_plan>
midfavila: could you be more specific? or do you just.. like it more? give you that fuzzy feeling or something like that
<midfavila>
sad_plan i'm going to try and patch it so that it can use ncompress
<midfavila>
i include ncompress on all my systems and ncompress is freestanding and quite small
<midfavila>
but yeah no i basically just like pm
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<midfavila>
like i said the process reminds me a lot of slackware
<midfavila>
and i've always liked slackware's method, just never what it ships with
<midfavila>
as oxymoronic as it sounds, if i could get a minimal slackware, i would be super chuffed
<midfavila>
super minimal slackware-style machine, 64-bit clean, zero blobs, only C in the base system...
<midfavila>
alternatively i bet i could patch pm to use zlib
<midfavila>
controlling a coffee roaster using a uconsole
<sad_plan>
I can relate. theres lots of cool projects around, but because it uses *something* as opposed to *something else*, all of a sudden, it doesnt fit the bill correctly
<midfavila>
that's my entire existence
<midfavila>
it's pain
<midfavila>
the uconsole is really close but mannnnn
<midfavila>
it's still not perfect
<midfavila>
the gpio situation is a mess
<sad_plan>
I can relate. I see so much cool shit, which would be soo close to be truly awesome, but no. they somehow ruined it by making some choice down the road..
<midfavila>
mmrh.
<sad_plan>
can you make calls with the uconsole btw? I was looking at some posts regarding linux phones, and theres not alot tbh
<midfavila>
yes
<midfavila>
i've made calls before
<midfavila>
albeit only in testing
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<midfavila>
you would need a headset or headphones with an inline mic
<midfavila>
but beyond that it's just a matter of echoing the relevant hayes commands into the modem
<midfavila>
with the cm4 you could use gnome software
<sad_plan>
awesome
<midfavila>
i've also gotten sms to work that way
<sad_plan>
I would be interested in a linux phone, but for those that ive know of, theyre rather awefull
<midfavila>
i'm working on getting librem's sms plugin for libpurple as well
<sad_plan>
cool
<midfavila>
yeb
<midfavila>
i'm hoping if i ever have time to learn hardware design i can modify the mainboard to be a little more...
<midfavila>
...practical
<midfavila>
tbf tho if you get a uconsole treat it like a pine64 device
<sad_plan>
I would be interested, but Im still not sure what I would use it for tbh
<midfavila>
it's a very niche device
<midfavila>
i got it because i've only used phones as portable linux machines with wwan
<sad_plan>
I get that. if I really need linux stuff on my handheld, I just use neotty, which is a wm using alpine. so I have a wm with x86_64 alpine. which is nice. I dont really use it for that much, but I like it
<sad_plan>
as opposed to termux, which is never updated, and also dont work outside the owner profile
<sad_plan>
which I dont use for regular stuff
<midfavila>
yeah termux sucks
<midfavila>
lmao
<midfavila>
ig the other thing for me too is that i want as much of my equipment to share parts as is possible
<midfavila>
with the reform and the uconsole that's pretty easy
<sad_plan>
I get that. would be awesome if you can swap parts between your handheld/desktop/laptop
<sad_plan>
youre already miles ahead of everyone else though, seeing as you can swap your cpu module across both of them
<midfavila>
well, not quite yet
<midfavila>
...not to mention my reform is still out of commission-
<midfavila>
but the hope is to be able to in the future
<sad_plan>
why was it out of commision again?
<sad_plan>
why arent they compatible yet? thought they were
<midfavila>
the mnt module socket is a different type, that's all
<midfavila>
as is the clockwork pi
<midfavila>
but both have cm4 adapters
<midfavila>
and i'm still waiting on a warranty claim for the power circuitry blowing on me.
<sad_plan>
so with an adopter, you could swap them?
<midfavila>
hardware-wise, yeah
<sad_plan>
I see
<midfavila>
in theory
<midfavila>
in practice you would need to swap out some device trees and make sure the two modules have equivalent I/O
<sad_plan>
hm
<midfavila>
hrm
<midfavila>
indeed
<midfavila>
i wonder how they got wiringpi to run on the r01
<midfavila>
probably just patched it. but it's annoying that wiringpi will abort if it determines it isnt on an rpi
<midfavila>
im all for supporting the pi foundation but bitching about people buying alternatives when the pi itself is a hot commodity and when other modules are contributing back to rpi is just dumb
<midfavila>
id just use sysfs but it seems like the pins aren't exposed...
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<midfavila>
ugh
<midfavila>
i need to email clockwork and ask them to get their shit together
<midfavila>
coming from mnt this has been a nightmare
<midfavila>
hey unrelated do you guys know of any crowdsourced search engines?
<midfavila>
something like wiby
<midfavila>
i feel like crowdsourced search engines for specific topics are going to be way more useful than google or etc at this point
<midfavila>
maybe this dates me a bit but i remember when i was younger it was super easy to find stuff online and now you can't go two links without getting slammed with ads and paywalls and adblocker-blockers and all this other crap