<midfavila>
dilyn theyre remote hiring for helpdesk
<midfavila>
specific job title is "linux desktop support engineer"
<midfavila>
if they demand a bach for that theyre idiots
<midfavila>
a bach doesnt teach you desktop support or similar skills
<midfavila>
riteo: yes you too can get a job editing systemd configuration files with your CE degree
<midfavila>
god knows you would need a PhD for an actual job in any moderately advanced career these days
<midfavila>
man ive run into so many people who are seniors at their companies now who will do the whole bootstrap yourself with a firm handshake and a want-to-work attitude thing
<midfavila>
and then you look at an entry or junior position at said corp and they want a bach pref for masters with five years experience, knowledge of ten languages, graphic design, rocket physics, mandarin, cree, a full portfolio, ten references, a credit score over 800, 24/7/365 on-call, 5km proximity to the office yet still demand a car and licence, you have to provide all your own equipment but let them
<midfavila>
install spyware
<midfavila>
and then they offer 15$ an hour with no benefits snd put you on probation for a year
* midfavila
takes a long, slow, deep breath
<midfavila>
but no, nobody wants to work any more
<midfavila>
if you want more than minimum wage when youre forced to live in a city where rent is 110% the median income youre just entitled and need to work harder
<midfavila>
like they did, when they got in by showing off a five line patch and maybe a two year programme >.>
<midfavila>
maybe canada's housing bubble bursting will be a good thing after all, if this is what the economy expects
<riteo>
oof that "nobody wants to work" thing hit hard
<riteo>
in italy we have an extremely strong stage culture
<riteo>
stage as in under(or not at all)-paid jobs needed "for experience"
<midfavila>
you should come here
<midfavila>
NA has been nobody wants to work any more'ing since it was new france
<midfavila>
it gets worse every year
<riteo>
new france?
<midfavila>
before the british arrived, after the norse did
<riteo>
oof
<riteo>
also, at least you got minimum wage lol
<midfavila>
its to the point where a lot of young people are just accepting theyll be burger flippers for the rest of their life
<riteo>
fun fact, italy doesn't have one
<riteo>
re burger flippers that's quite fucked up :(
<midfavila>
riteo, in most of canada you need to earn 2-3x full time minwage just to eat and rent
<midfavila>
like when i was in fredericton, a historically very poor region,
<riteo>
although the burger flipper thing is what this economical model *requires*
<riteo>
it's just slavery with extra steps
<riteo>
literally social classes as in ancient societies
<midfavila>
there were times i worked over ninety hours a week
<midfavila>
and the company cut my hours before paying me more
<midfavila>
so no matter how hard i worked i still had to take on more and more debt just to buy bread
<riteo>
da3
<riteo>
sorry my laptop was falling
<riteo>
smashed the keyboard
<midfavila>
i was earning maybe 1700cad and rent alone was ~1100, very basic food was ~400
<riteo>
was saying, ye this economic system working very nice
<midfavila>
basic internet and cell, around 90
<midfavila>
so now youre about 100$ above water
<riteo>
oof
<riteo>
feels bad
<midfavila>
better hope you dont get hurt or sick or have a life energency or want to go take an exam for any sort of cert or anything
<riteo>
what job was that
<riteo>
like, was it a "normal" job or something fancier
<midfavila>
i was a clerk at a convenience store
<riteo>
I see
<midfavila>
just retail
<midfavila>
i worked in a couple kitchens prior to that
<riteo>
it's funny that ironically most of those underpaid jobs are actually the backbone of the biggest companies
<riteo>
and of the entire consume economy pretty much
<midfavila>
would get like one sixteen hour shift a week with one 15min break
<riteo>
consumer*
<riteo>
I mean funny in a bad way
<midfavila>
and then be expected to work in 60-70C kitchens the rest of the time
<midfavila>
yeah ik
<riteo>
I'm really sad for what you had to endure
<midfavila>
at this point im just screaming into the void
<riteo>
I don't remember sorry, did you find a good job now?
<riteo>
I hope so
<midfavila>
it pays the bills and its easy
<midfavila>
so ye
<riteo>
yay!
<midfavila>
im the IT dept for a tiny construction logistics firm
<riteo>
let's look it positively, you escaped the vicious cycle
<midfavila>
lmao no
<midfavila>
no bach degree
<midfavila>
i could have ten years experience and still get spit on here
<riteo>
:(
<riteo>
is bachelor the 3 year thing or the "specialization"
<riteo>
no idea how much this stuff translates over the ocean
<riteo>
it's the 3 year thing allright
<midfavila>
i would have loved to go to uni but unfortunately i made the choice of being born into a shitty family with no money, then ending up homeless for eight years through no fault of my own and no gvt supports because tories, and then made the mistake of living through a global pandemic while in hs under a gvt that thought it was just a flu and closed the dept of education for a year and a fucking half
<riteo>
you were WHAT for eight years
<riteo>
I had no idea
<midfavila>
and so because i literally couldnt take the electives i wanted because no fucking school
<midfavila>
and i foolishly took CS110/120 and compsec instead of fucking biology
<midfavila>
they only accepted phys/bio/chem as the credit for CS
<riteo>
I'm terribly sorry for what you've went through
<midfavila>
and even if i had taken physics i still wouldnt qualify because electives
<riteo>
stay strong fella, you can do it and you're making it I might argue
<midfavila>
its whatever
<midfavila>
we live in a society
<riteo>
even though everything seems against you you're still going forward
<riteo>
that's not something to be scoffed at
<riteo>
or to scoff at
<riteo>
is that even the right verb
<midfavila>
yes
<riteo>
m. worldwide
<midfavila>
but also riteo kids these days are just eating too much advocado toast
<riteo>
smhfs head
<midfavila>
if they ate the 2.50$ per unit apples instead of the 5$ avo they would be able to get a decrepit crack shack for 5mil in a mere twenty three lifetimes
<midfavila>
h o n e s t l y kids are so entitled
<riteo>
they clearly don't have the multi-freaky-llionare grindset
<midfavila>
thinking they deserve such luxuries as
<midfavila>
food
<midfavila>
and
<midfavila>
shelter
<riteo>
smh my head
* midfavila
dies
<riteo>
NOOOO DONT DIE MID
<midfavila>
canada should have stayed with britain
<midfavila>
the constitution act was a mistake
<riteo>
I mean isn't it _kinda_ it?
<riteo>
like very tangentially
<riteo>
just enough to be annoying
<midfavila>
~40 years of independence and we're already drowning
<midfavila>
and no
<midfavila>
no we arent
<riteo>
uh
<riteo>
am I getting confused with australia
<riteo>
perhaps I suck at geo
<midfavila>
basically all canada legally shares with the UK is the same head of state, same legal system, and some regalia
<midfavila>
AU is in the same spot
<riteo>
I see
<riteo>
so they just have the UK skin
<midfavila>
theres about a dozen countries who are
<midfavila>
the so called commonwealth realms
<midfavila>
then theres like 80 total commonwealth members
<midfavila>
the commonwealth is like the EU but lame and useless and not at all like the EU actually
<riteo>
I see
<midfavila>
we get our own olympics that nobody watches and
<midfavila>
honestly i think thats it for the regular person
<riteo>
wait why olypmics
<riteo>
what's the point
<midfavila>
some bullshit about common identity i think
<midfavila>
in theory the king is supposed to embody the v i b e s of the realms
<riteo>
that's... really... uhh... yeah I got no better words for it; useless
<midfavila>
and act as a check against the executive branch
<riteo>
midfavila: vibes-driven development
<riteo>
gotta try that one
<midfavila>
in practice the king just collects money from starving peasants to spend on inaugurations
<riteo>
that's very monarch-y
<midfavila>
but the uk website is very clear that even though canadians and aussies and kiwis etc all pay taxes to the monarch, its not to the english monarch
<midfavila>
but to their own monarchs
<midfavila>
whose crowns all happen to be held by the english monarch
<riteo>
lmao
<midfavila>
so we still pay tax to the king, he just only gets to use it as the king of canada
<midfavila>
which, whoop dee fucking do
<riteo>
this stuff is so round-about-y and legacy that it's almost fascinating
<riteo>
and like... nobody cares?
<midfavila>
nobody here even knows how government works
<riteo>
like, maybe I just got accustomed to the weird things of my country but this stuff you're saying to me sounds extremely fucked up
<midfavila>
we havent talked about the house of commons or the senate or how each province has a legislative assenbly and its own crown and doesnt take orders from the federal government
<riteo>
I'll have to reiterate: the fact that you're still going and finding better jobs and LIVING is amazing
<midfavila>
or about how the territories do take orders but only sometimes
<midfavila>
etc
<midfavila>
also the king doesnt even like, come here
<midfavila>
ibthink charles has visited a half dozen or so times
<midfavila>
we just have iirc the PM unofficially officially appoint a governor-general to aft on the monarchs behalf
<riteo>
so lemme get that clear
<riteo>
canada got no real meaningful connection to UK except for taxes
<midfavila>
and really all that means is they sprinkle the royal pixie dust on bills passed hy the commons and senate
<midfavila>
but the GG doesnt pass bills in the provinces
<midfavila>
because the GG acts on behalf of the king of canada
<midfavila>
and each province has its own monarch who also happens to be the same as the monarch of canada
<midfavila>
and si each province needs its own governor to sprinkle the dust on bills in each provinces assembly
<midfavila>
which remember has almost no influence from the fed, directly
<midfavila>
but only on certain issues
<midfavila>
also no
<midfavila>
we dont pay tax to the uk
<midfavila>
we pay tax to the monarch of canada who merely by coincidence happens to be the same person as the monarch of the uk
<midfavila>
h o n e s t l y
<riteo>
what a funny coincidence
<riteo>
I'm sure nobody noticed
<midfavila>
but yeah nobody here cares because most people cant even be bothered to keep track of government
<midfavila>
this is a problem because it leads to people blaming the fed for healthcare and housing,
<riteo>
sorry what's a fed
<riteo>
like isn't it the government
<midfavila>
when neither are the fed's responsibility or even under their authority
<midfavila>
yes
<midfavila>
but the government of canada isnt the gvt of manitoba or ontario or quebec etc
<midfavila>
and has only marginal control over those governments
<riteo>
I see
<midfavila>
and cant do much to fix their isdues aside from offer incentives, unless the cobstitution is overruled
<midfavila>
constitution
<midfavila>
which sets a dangerous precedent
<midfavila>
in theory the king exists to act as final judge to protect against edge cases
<midfavila>
in practice the governors and king dont do shit
<riteo>
so what happense
<riteo>
like when a edge case shows up
<midfavila>
which is a problem because the likely next pm has explicitly and repeatedly stated his intent to overturn the constitution in order to influct cruel and unusual punishments
<midfavila>
riteo the governor sprinkles the pixie dust same as always
<midfavila>
meaning theres basically no final check
<midfavila>
the fed has a senate to check the commons
<midfavila>
but most everyday issues are handled by provinces/territories and their municipalities
<midfavila>
and they only have legislative assemblies/councils
<midfavila>
no second chamber
<riteo>
so whatever they say is cool
<midfavila>
if they form majority government, yep
<midfavila>
even if its unconstitutional
<midfavila>
:D
<riteo>
wtf
<midfavila>
even if the government itself judges the law to be unconsritutional, it doesnt matter
<midfavila>
because fuck you
<riteo>
that makes sense
<midfavila>
notwithstanding clause baybeeeeee
<midfavila>
thats what i call freedom brother
<midfavila>
brotherrrr
<riteo>
raaaaah
<midfavila>
freedoom whoooooooooo
<midfavila>
HELL yeah
<riteo>
land of the brave
* midfavila
high-fives riteo
<midfavila>
true north strong and free!
<riteo>
wohooo
<midfavila>
ca-na-da!!! ca-na-da!!! ca-na-da!!!
<midfavila>
man we are so fucked
<midfavila>
lmao
<midfavila>
ffffuckin
<midfavila>
no work
<midfavila>
no housing
<midfavila>
no doctors
<midfavila>
bread is five bucks a loaf
<midfavila>
cant walk anywhere without getting run over by someone drunk off their ass or getting TB or bearspray'd
<riteo>
what's tb
<midfavila>
gonna have our public funds drained by 2030 because of the boomers fucking the economy and retiring before fixing it
<midfavila>
tuberculosis
<riteo>
oh
<midfavila>
you would think the french half would kickstart a revolution but the most we do is shout insults at officials with no real power about isdues their level of government cant control and then piss our pants when we get caught
* midfavila
rubs their temples, sighs
<riteo>
yeah was kinda wondering about revolution but I remember reading 1984 and even that... what is it... 70? Years old book realized that it's not gonna happen
<midfavila>
mmrh
<midfavila>
as thatcher said, we're at the so called end of historu
<midfavila>
history
<midfavila>
that seems to hold true, at leadt in NA
<midfavila>
least
<midfavila>
mfw phoneposting
<riteo>
you on mobile rn?
<midfavila>
yub
<riteo>
cool
<riteo>
still better than telegram :P
<riteo>
I hate telegram
<riteo>
I hate whatsapp
<riteo>
I don't really go crazy for matrix (hey at least it's open source)
<riteo>
can't try XMPP
<midfavila>
yub
<midfavila>
xmpp is blech anyway
<riteo>
there's this simplex thing but 90% it's not gonna work
<midfavila>
i have it
<riteo>
what's left
<midfavila>
i prefer irc
<midfavila>
or something like delta chat
<riteo>
also funnyly enough we have always-on constantly-connected dataloggers yet we still depend on relay servers
<riteo>
when P2P
<midfavila>
which is actually just a sophisticated email client that looks and acts like telegram but uses email as a transport
<riteo>
ooooooooooooooooooooh
<riteo>
that... doesn't sound very stable
<midfavila>
its fine tbh
<riteo>
also encryption????????
<riteo>
and metadata?????
<midfavila>
pgp
<midfavila>
s/mime
<riteo>
no like
<riteo>
that's not encrypted is it
<midfavila>
it can be afaik
<midfavila>
its literally just normal email
<midfavila>
under the hood
<riteo>
so you, three letter agency, can still know that mid wrote sewn at 3:00 AM to share dirty KISS Linux rice pics
<riteo>
or at least not that last part
<riteo>
more like, 3:00 AM
<riteo>
not sure why I put that last part of the sentence
<midfavila>
sewn wouldnt like my rices
<riteo>
still, that's the thing
<riteo>
common complaint with whatsapp, which is e2e, matrix, and so on
<riteo>
telegram is not even encrypted lol
<riteo>
everything floats through their infrastructure like it's nothing
<riteo>
simplex presumably moves the metadata at the "connections", like, they can only know who you talk to but not much else presumably
<riteo>
it's a bit like TOR so it has similar pitfalls
<riteo>
as in you need lots of servers to mix packets so that you can't do correlation attacks
<riteo>
it's complicated
<riteo>
you know what is not
<riteo>
irc
<midfavila>
tbf everything has got like twenty hardware backdoors and everything is too reliant on insanely complex hardware so you just have to kind of die
<riteo>
yeah but still at least _trying_ would help with the majority of attackers
<midfavila>
also even if there isnt a backdoor theres probably critical hardware flaws
<riteo>
obv you're not escaping from multi-trillion dollar states or smth
<riteo>
but at least data must be encrypted and not encrypting metadata means data mining
<riteo>
as in, facebook makes big moneys with when you chat to who
<midfavila>
so if you dont have some guy stealing your CC number your CPU might spontaneously melt if it boosts
<midfavila>
thanks intel
<midfavila>
obama
<midfavila>
obamtel
<riteo>
obama?
<midfavila>
intama
<riteo>
what did obama do
<riteo>
with intel
<midfavila>
oh its like
<midfavila>
just a meme
<midfavila>
people just blame obama for everything ig
<riteo>
oh
<midfavila>
"eggs went bad? thanks obama"
<riteo>
I see
<midfavila>
"cold coffee? thanks obama"
<riteo>
wasn't obama in presidency like more than 8 years ago
<midfavila>
etc
<midfavila>
yes
<midfavila>
thats the joke
<midfavila>
:p
<riteo>
I see
<riteo>
I mean it must have surely come from some serious fella
<midfavila>
honestly i kind of just want to throw all my computers away some days
<riteo>
USA politics are like, a minefield, only that when somebody touches a mine 500000000 kms from you you still get some shrapnel
<riteo>
yeah mid I think everybody goes through that
<midfavila>
its all so complex and interconnected and impossible to tweak or understand
<riteo>
it's just part of the experience
<midfavila>
cant get a job in it any more
<riteo>
just... do not think too hard about it, I think
<midfavila>
not even fun to tinker with
<riteo>
I mean
<riteo>
not fun with commercial stuff
<riteo>
it's MEANT to be boring
<riteo>
but we're here on #kisslinux!
<midfavila>
its all commercial
<midfavila>
thats the problem with open source
<riteo>
I mean it might be me who finds pretty mundane stuff extremely interesting
asimov has joined #kisslinux
<riteo>
and the fact that I have an extremely narrow sets of interests might further justify why I do only that
<riteo>
oh hi asimov
<riteo>
but I dunno mid, you seem happy to tinker too
<riteo>
just not the "mainstream" stuff, and that's fine
<asimov>
hi
<midfavila>
i would find it more interesting if it wasnt all a monumental pain in the ass
<asimov>
whats up?
<riteo>
talking about pain
<riteo>
and existential crises, both inside and outside of a cpu
<asimov>
what kinda pain?
<midfavila>
im having an autismophrenic meltdown again
<midfavila>
so just another friday
<midfavila>
lmao
<riteo>
ye I mean chat's active, nobody else's chatting ANYWHERE because holidays
<asimov>
gosh is friday
<asimov>
i only see it now
<riteo>
and I don't mind
<riteo>
jeez we've been doing this for years thinking about it
<asimov>
kinda
<asimov>
sometimes i go away
<asimov>
but return here again everytime
<midfavila>
ive been here since 2021ish i think
<riteo>
yeah same asimov
<riteo>
midfavila: I mean we could look at the logs
<asimov>
i think i got kiss in 2022
<riteo>
but probably same, 2021ish
<riteo>
as I had my laptop around that time and I had the BRILLIANT idea of installing kiss linux as my first and only OS there
<riteo>
fun times
<riteo>
"uhhh I can't screen share sorry I don't have the software for that"
<riteo>
"games? One sec lemme recompile this thing"
<riteo>
"yes mpaint is fine I do not need anything else" (lying)
<midfavila>
"let me spin up my VM to run firefox so i can watch netflix babe"
<riteo>
lmao
<asimov>
lol
<midfavila>
>qenu segfaults
<riteo>
askdghaiojadfiohff
<riteo>
that hit me really deep
<asimov>
gosh i literally did that lmao
<midfavila>
>panick.xpm
<riteo>
it still does :cry:
<riteo>
ipv6 for some reason explodes
<riteo>
one day I had a chance to get in a cybersecurity (I know) e-sport kinda team or something
<riteo>
and I had to run kali on qemu
<asimov>
"Babe just wait a second for me to solve this sound issue for the HDMI port" (forget to compile codec)"
<riteo>
shit exploded
<riteo>
10 times
<riteo>
The folk just gave me their laptop and I failed terribly (I suck at compsec)
<midfavila>
asimov: that literally happened to me
<asimov>
all girls that i dated have watching something in kiss lol
<midfavila>
not figuratively
<asimov>
yeah me too
<asimov>
literally
<asimov>
the girl was wait for me to solve it lol
<midfavila>
my SO visited this summer and i had to redo my laptops initramfs to properly set up the imx8mq's HDMI out
<riteo>
oh talking about initramfs
<riteo>
that shit's so simple actually
<riteo>
like, linux got simple, standard, working interfaces?!?!?
<riteo>
why is everyone using weird lock-in libraries
<riteo>
I have an hand-made initramfs and it's tiiiiiny
<midfavila>
"no babe i cant play videogames with you because tjose are x86-64 glibc binaries and this is an aarch64 musl system"
<midfavila>
"also im 64 bit clean and steam is 32 bit"
<riteo>
yeah I had a portable ssd with a flimsy usb A 3.0 connection to game at first
<asimov>
lololol
<riteo>
a slight movement and instant crash
<asimov>
i meant
<midfavila>
the linux experience riteo
<riteo>
flatpak really saved me fellas
<asimov>
i really explained this to my girlfriends and friends
<riteo>
holy moly I forgot that I didn't even have telegram-desktop
<riteo>
I used...
* riteo
gasps
<riteo>
telegram web
<asimov>
"sorry but i'm musl and steam is not capable to be run on only 64bit in linux"
<riteo>
I'm rofling as I never did before in my life
<asimov>
i think i just dont get caught or somethinf because i just turned to use linux after the high school
<midfavila>
principal and vices and the school pig all took it super seriously
<riteo>
am I the only one who got actually respected from teachers
<riteo>
like, I even had a web dev, but like the super mega chill networking fella that used linux unironically, as an high school professor
<midfavila>
my compsec class was sweet
<riteo>
literally saved me during my maturity exam because I formatted my usb drive with the wrong format
<midfavila>
the gvt paid me to evaluate it
<riteo>
randomly came and said "uh I can give my linux laptop" and loaded the slideshow from there
<riteo>
I feel extremely lucky rn
<midfavila>
the windows segments sucked bc it was just how to configure every windows from 2k onward
<midfavila>
including server
<riteo>
sadly that makes sense to teach
<riteo>
as people still use archaic versions of windows
<midfavila>
but there were lessons on basic crypto theory and the history of the internet andcmalware
<riteo>
and I mean soon win10 is gonna be archaic as it's not going to be updated later this year
<midfavila>
how computer law adapted over time
<riteo>
so a few years and people's PCs are going to explode in unison
<midfavila>
the unix stuff was sweet
<riteo>
oh wow mid that sounds sweet indeed
<midfavila>
taught blue and red team stuff
<riteo>
as in intel/amd?
<midfavila>
PAM policies, SELinux, networking theory etc
<riteo>
oh gosh PAM
<riteo>
PAM always sounded like pain
<riteo>
is it pain
<midfavila>
red team covered things like sniffing traffic, cracking APs and captured passwords,
<midfavila>
using metasploit
<midfavila>
social engineering
<riteo>
oh that makes more sense now
<riteo>
also btw mid no idea if that applies to you (or in general)
<midfavila>
pam is fine
<midfavila>
also what the lessons?
<riteo>
but like there was this fella who skipped uni but got filled to the brim with certifications and said that it was still capable of finding good jobs in compsec
<midfavila>
i already knew most of it
<riteo>
re lessons no sorry I was still writing
<midfavila>
hence being hired as an evaluator
<riteo>
like, I wanted to add timing
<midfavila>
aah
<midfavila>
ye
<midfavila>
i mean
<midfavila>
that was trye
<midfavila>
true
<midfavila>
now its just as hard as the rest
<riteo>
oh i see
<riteo>
rip
<midfavila>
plus you need money and time to sit the exam and buy materials and study
<midfavila>
etc
<midfavila>
i was supposed to apprentice at a laboratory for compsec research in NB
<midfavila>
but as per fucking usual life hates me
<riteo>
:(
<midfavila>
i met the lab director in dec 2019
<riteo>
oooooooooooof
<riteo>
holy moly
<midfavila>
and then coof happened
<midfavila>
and the gvt program funding his lab was also kill
<midfavila>
because it didnt provide immediate returns
<riteo>
no shit
<midfavila>
thanks blaine higgs former premiere of new brunswicj and executive at irving energy corporation
<riteo>
a fucking pandemic happenes
<riteo>
dumb government
<midfavila>
very Fiscally Responsible:tm: of you
<midfavila>
same guy who LITERALLY CLOSED THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION FOR A YEAR AND A HALF
<midfavila>
and then had his minister order that every student be passed ANYWAY
<riteo>
how does stuff like this even happen
<midfavila>
because
<midfavila>
fuckn
<midfavila>
canada
<midfavila>
g o d
<riteo>
btw asimov did you fix flatpak portals
<riteo>
and stuff
<asimov>
oh
<asimov>
i will see it now
<asimov>
i just installed kiss again to maybe solve it
<riteo>
nw
<asimov>
fineshed some stuff
<riteo>
take your time
<riteo>
also because im going sleep quite soon
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<asimovc>
riteo: i'am installing portals and flatpak now to see it
<riteo>
aight
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<riteo>
in the meantime I'll prepare for sleepy time
<riteo>
it's kinda late so we'll have to see this another time I fear
<asimov>
no worries
<asimov>
you cant help me with it
<riteo>
at least you can take a laugh at naples' peepee they had until a few weeks ago
<riteo>
I could see it in person
<asimov>
you already tried last time
<midfavila>
no wonder benitos granddaughter or w/e is popular god
<riteo>
well I did not know about that you didn't set the activation environment
<midfavila>
macaroni lovers beware youre in for a scare
<riteo>
midfavila: that's another mess of its own
<riteo>
like
<asimov>
i still with the screencasting problem
<riteo>
the history of this peepee is kinda half a troll
<asimov>
same error
<riteo>
oh I see oof
<riteo>
this is actually an art exibit with cultural money dedicated solely to it spent
<riteo>
and the designer, gaetano PESCE (fish -> cock basically, coincidence??), died a few months ago
<riteo>
he was like famous apparently
<midfavila>
some things never change regardless of geography i suppose
<riteo>
and its heirs convinced the region to install it
<riteo>
because famous designer last wish
<riteo>
and so peepee
<midfavila>
my city spent hundteds of thousands of dollars to haul boulders in from out of town
<riteo>
it was meant to be pulcinella but its peepee
<midfavila>
they painted they with like hearts and rainbows and shit
<riteo>
also its title is "you're a big thing"
<midfavila>
then dumped them where homeless people had been camping
<riteo>
yeah I mean art stuff is more of a flex than anything
<riteo>
although damn that boulder thing is just cruel
<riteo>
also damn
<midfavila>
my city does all sorts of stuff like that
<riteo>
I should talk about ascanio someday
<riteo>
semi-obscure internet cultural icon
<riteo>
8th of january is an extremely important date for some people on the internet
<midfavila>
installing "wristwrests" that are too short to be usable on benches in areas with high honeless populations
<riteo>
I'll make it quick: misheard lyrics of a persian(?) song in italian
<riteo>
which says "let ascanio in on the 8th of january"
<midfavila>
installing slanted benches, spikes under bridges etc
<midfavila>
o
<riteo>
re city: classic anti-homeless shit
<midfavila>
yeah i hate saskatchewan
<riteo>
btw to close in on the ascanio stuff
<riteo>
here comes the crazy stuff
<riteo>
some fella randomly went to persia's got talent and sang the original song
<riteo>
IN ITALIAN FROM THE ORIGINAL LYRICS
<midfavila>
its like someone took everything shitty about NA and crammed it into one province
<midfavila>
o nice
<riteo>
as in, they took the mishreard funny lyrics and sang them live
<riteo>
in italian
<riteo>
so it looked like he had a bad accent but actually was saying "let ascanio in the 8th of january" and so on
<midfavila>
yub
<midfavila>
silly italy moment :3
<riteo>
national hero
<riteo>
btw isn't that anti-homeless stuff anti-constitutional
<riteo>
always wondered
<riteo>
like, you're literally hurting people
<midfavila>
its all in the name of public order you see
<riteo>
dumb :(
<midfavila>
i understand the winters last eight months and reach -60C but they just need to bootstrap themselves with a firm handshake like the rest of us
<midfavila>
frostbite is no excuse to be on welfare takin 600 a month in handouts >:CCCCC
<riteo>
we really live in a society
<midfavila>
hobestly the only reason they cant afford a 1300$ a month apartment with that is all the DRUGS theyre buyin
<midfavila>
etc
<midfavila>
typical NA brain
<riteo>
I hope you don't mind but I think that we'll have to close here our discussion
<riteo>
5:30 kinda late
<riteo>
brain hurty
<midfavila>
ye its late
<riteo>
eyes droopy
<midfavila>
go sleeb
<riteo>
indeed
<riteo>
night mid, it has been quite fun
<riteo>
and night asimov
<midfavila>
nini
<riteo>
cya
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<sewn>
midfavila who said I wouldnt
<midfavila>
ur mum
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<dilyn>
mid: help desk as in internal infra or public support?
<dilyn>
You might be able to get public support without a bach, doesn't hurt to apply
<dilyn>
Just gonna suck for you cus dear LORD is Ubuntu a culture shock after KISS lmfaoooo
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<sad_plan>
why on earth does some gcc components gets 2x+ sizewise if you bootstrap? wtf. even with flags which should reduce size