00:08 <midfavila> hmm

00:09 <midfavila> for my little hobby distro using `pm` i might separate docs, bins, and headers...

00:09 <midfavila> so like, user and admin docs go with bins, but then specs and header details and such go with headers

00:10 <midfavila> or maybe a dedicated doc package idk

00:13 <midfavila> oh huh

00:13 <midfavila> apparently fuchsia uses sbase

00:13 <riteo> oh that's interesting

00:13 <riteo> re separating packages: if the package system allows it, I'd go for them

00:14 <midfavila> yeah no reason it wouldn't. `pm` packs are really simple

00:14 <riteo> tbf I've been wondering of a pretty way of handling them in my dream distro

00:14 <midfavila> also lets me put a lot of gnu implementations of tools into extra packs

00:14 <midfavila> replace the core ones with simpler alternatives

00:14 <midfavila> like qm4 instead of gm4

00:20 <riteo> headsup, liburing's sources don't work anymore

00:20 <riteo> like, cgit complains that tar.gz's are not supported???

00:20 <riteo> so I had to fork and switch to native git sources

00:20 <riteo> as in, git+whatever

00:22 <midfavila> rip

00:22 <midfavila> ngl im probably gonna pivot away from using git to manage repos

00:22 <midfavila> at least on the user side

00:44 <midfavila> anyone here know if suckless' tar is still busted on large tarchives?

00:54 <midfavila> reminds me to try and patch pm(1) to support compress(1)...

10:58 <vova> midfavila: what you will switch to, to manage repos ?

10:59 <vova> honestly quite sad to admit this but, if the kiss package manager was written in bash it'd have been cleaner (`local` variables)

13:39 <sad_plan> vova: his own. but he has to make it first though. pm doesnt have any repos, besides z3bras, which uses mk. they also havent been updated in a really long time now, so theyd probably need some package bumps.

13:51 <vova> hmm

13:51 <vova> why does busybox from kiss doesn't include udhcpd ?

13:52 <vova> also what do you use for configuring interfaces ?

13:52 <vova> (I know jack shit about networking) I'm used to /etc/network/interfaces on alpine

14:14 <vova> I guess I can create a file /etc/rc.d/interfaces.boot and put something like `ip link set eth0 up && dhcpcd eth0` in it

14:20 <ukky> vova: if you use dhcpcd, then you don't need `ip link set eth0 up`. My /etc/runit/sv/run has this: exec /sbin/dhcpcd -B -4 -t 0 -M

14:21 <ukky> You might need to adjust /etc/dhcpcd/dhcpcd.conf

14:27 <vova> Thanks !

14:27 <ukky> you are welcome

15:37 <sewn> vova: bash? really?

15:37 <sewn> just say busybox ash (has local)

15:38 <sewn> vova: https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/kisslinux/2023-10-26#35128896

15:38 <sewn> alternatively: sdhcp (rejected from upstream because dhcpcd)

15:38 <vova> I know but

15:38 <vova> idk

16:25 <vova> anyone successfully compiled river for kiss ?

16:25 <vova> I get a segfault...

16:25 <vova> sewn: I know you tried to do it back in the days, any success ?

16:53 <sewn> when i was using kiss i was a dwl fan

16:53 <sewn> segfault.. any logs..

18:23 <vova> Sad

18:23 <vova> everything is working perfectly except river...

18:23 <vova> I guess I'll just take the bin from alpine for it

19:02 <sewn> vova: remember, you still didnt send any logs

19:02 <sewn> or make any bug report

19:02 <sewn> just "oh no its broken"

19:02 <vova> I did 2 years ago

19:03 <vova> https://github.com/ziglang/zig/issues/13052

19:03 <vova> but at that time I did a dirty switch from musl to glibc so I thought that was the issue

19:03 <vova> turns out it was not

19:04 <vova> guess I'll just make a new issue tomorrow

19:08 <sewn> i dont remember having this issue

19:08 <sewn> but i did have this issue: https://github.com/ziglang/zig-bootstrap/issues/154

19:09 <sewn> which i abruptly closed cuz i was tired of zig

19:09 <sewn> definitely will be a problem again if i do get back into kiss

19:09 <sewn> lmk how it goes

19:23 <vova> also

19:23 <vova> wasn't zig in the community repo back in the days ?

19:23 <vova> now there's only zig-bin

19:23 <vova> why