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<dilyn> you gotta get the return header when you do the upload
<sad_plan> so append the -i flag when uploading?
<sad_plan> s/append/use/
<dilyn> yessir
<dilyn> honestly we should provide something like a kiss-debug which allows users to upload build logs to 0x0 or something...
<sad_plan> I could see the usefullness of that for sure. people giving logs is an absolute mess at times
<sad_plan> would be pretty neat to just do kiss b foo | gimmiethelinkalready
<sad_plan> however, im pretty sure people would find a way to miss this regardless..
<dilyn> oh absolutely
<dilyn> does anyone have a counter on how many times someone has popped in to ask about busybox diff error messages when building a kernel lmfao
<sad_plan> not sure I would bother to count that high. especially anything related to kernel not booting. lol
<sad_plan> oh, I figured it out. it doesnt seem like Im able to get the token if the file already exists. wierd
<dilyn> it makes sense tho; there's no way of knowing if you're the person who made the original request
<dilyn> don't worry it'll only be up for like, a year lmfaooooo
<sad_plan> youre right. only identifier is probably the ip, which doesnt neccessarly have to be unique anyway so..
<sad_plan> lol, yeeah, luckily, it wasnt that bad
<sad_plan> hm, this is a new one. autotools generates a configure script with errors on tinyx now. love that things are subtly breaking at times
<jason123onirc> how do I know if I am using tinyx?
<sad_plan> how would you not know? if you havent installed tinyx, youre likely not running tinyx
<sad_plan> but a dead giveaway is wether or not you can bind anything to the superkey
<sad_plan> the performance difference is also pretty huge
<sad_plan> tinyx is a turd in comparisson
<jason123onirc> tinyx is faster?
<sad_plan> other way around
<sad_plan> tinyx doesnt have any acceleration, so its rather slow. it only runs on the framebuffer
<jason123onirc> oh I installed xorg
<sad_plan> figured as much. youd have to purposefully install tinyx.
<jason123onirc> oh makes sense
<sewn> dilyn: sad_plan: ooh I heard sff
<sewn> what's your case
<sad_plan> sewn: sl3m its called. its by custom_mod
<sewn> holy fuck that's tiny
<sad_plan> yep
<sewn> why is this more expensive than my 10.8L case????
<sad_plan> nfc-systems tries to brag about the smallest sff gaming computer. theirs is 3.39L. whereas sl3m is 2.97L to be precise
<sad_plan> wym? custom_mods cases is pretty affordable imo
<dilyn> it's expensive because it's (not a joke) small volume and harder to machine
<sad_plan> its also niche. its often less costly to procude something 10M times, as oposed to 1k
<sad_plan> however, I dont belive nfc systems s4t or custom_mods cases is particularly expensive. ive seens less niche cases with higher pricetags. custom_mod's cases is manually made, as is nfc's s4t
<sewn> sad_plan: my S400v2 was 72 dollars
<sad_plan> hm, wierd. sbase recently pushed some new commits, which altered their sort. this seems to break kiss' pkg_fix_deps() function. it runs sort -uk1,1 on the depends files, and seems to truncate the space if a dependency is set as makedep.
<sad_plan> but it doesnt always happen
<sad_plan> sewn: I see. thats not too shabby pricewise
<sewn> atleast I'm not forced to use an nvidia GPU hehehe
<sad_plan> neither am i. I could use dilyns gpu. it does fit. I know of a couple others aswell which should fit, but I havent doublechecked it
<sad_plan> but yes, ive for sure locked myself out of hellova lot of gpus :p
<sad_plan> if theres nothing funky about the dimensions ive found for the rtx a2000, it should fit aswell. altough this is also nvidia
<sewn> bweh
<dilyn> yeah my card would work, it's low profile
<dilyn> iirc doesn't even need pcie power lmfao
<sewn> what's the point of having a card like that tho
<dilyn> low power, low need
<dilyn> offloading specific workloads, simple graphics
<sewn> wouldn't the igpu suffice then
<ukky> igpu eats RAM
<sewn> just download more ram
<dilyn> kek
<dilyn> but yes ram is a big reason, also efficiency
<dilyn> can an igpu do opencl well?
<sewn> I see
<sewn> what about an soc
<dilyn> SoCs tend to be heavily optimized
<dilyn> for instance they'll embed an NPU to do task offloading, or a RT core for RT compute
<dilyn> like the new jetson boards are great for CUDA stuff but piss for general compute imho
<dilyn> ofc depends on the SoC; cheaper boards are less optimized and also bad at generic compute
<sewn> I see
<sewn> Bummer
<dilyn> a SoC could do KISS stuff relatively well, for instance my sipeed licheerv can run a web browser; it's laggy, but it can run it. that's 512MB ram, 1GHz cpu (single core??) -- the hard part is getting the software (binary distributions shine here)
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<sewn> what is it about kiss that gives me stutters in my driving game wtf
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<midfavila> skill issue
<midfavila> :3c
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<sewn> very helpful
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<ukky> sewn: What is your timer frequency? zcat /proc/config.gz | grep 'CONFIG_HZ_'
<sewn> same kernel
<sewn> different userland causes the issue
<sewn> I was using kiss kernel to boot chimera
<sewn> anyway its 1000
<ukky> and what is the preemption model? zcat /proc/config.gz | grep 'CONFIG_.*PREEMPT'
<sewn> voluntary
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<ukky> There is one more responsive preemtion mode to try: CONFIG_PREEMPT
<sewn> changing the wlroots renderer to vulkan removed the stuttering
<sewn> I'll try that tho
<sewn> yes it makes no sense
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<sewn> nope it didn't help
<sewn> anyway I'm removing kiss
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<ilt> i see stuttering too on sway/wlroots. looks like a regression. vulkan and no atomic params fixed it for me
<ilt> playing terraria just fine
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<phinxy> Is full preemtive kernel possible with i915 gpu driver? Linux would not compile for me with that option. A (old) mailing list message said its not possible.
<sewn> aw man I'm already on chimera
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<sad_plan> I have an update on the gpu though. I put things back together to see what works and not, and the desktop boots just fine, and hw seems to be detected properly. I also tested the gpu, and it does atleast give me video output
<sad_plan> I also snapped a photo of the board, where one can see the damage
<midfavila> the loonix shitbox experience:tm:
<midfavila> just tape it together :3c
<sad_plan> if you follow the edge, you can see that theres 5 of those (w/e theyre called) has been ripped off
<sad_plan> lol
<sad_plan> I suppose of it works, it works
<sad_plan> s/of/if/
<midfavila> you can't tell me that this isn't 95% of the people in here
<sad_plan> fortunatly, my setup is less messy than that. but sure, I suppose youre right :p
<dilyn> if you can find em maybe you can resolder them hehe
<midfavila> dilyn when r u gonna become a farmer like dylan
<sad_plan> I dont belive I found all of them, not sure. but I ended up throwing them into the trash afterwards when I was tiding up
<midfavila> compile ur food from source
<sad_plan> I also can solder for shit
<midfavila> dude it could be a co-op holy shit
<dilyn> you can take my computer from my cold dead hands mid
<midfavila> you can't convince me dylan doesn't have a million homebrew computers on his farm
<midfavila> i would never take that away from someone
<midfavila> :c
<midfavila> computers are like children
<sad_plan> he probably made shell scripts do all the farming for him
<midfavila> unironically
<sad_plan> POSIX farming
<midfavila> once the bombs fall that's what i'm going to do
<sad_plan> lol
<midfavila> lol yourself, i'm serious >:c
<midfavila> need to buy tools at some oint tho
<midfavila> point*
<midfavila> i can write them off on my taxes i think
<sad_plan> fr? because you can justify its work related or something?
<midfavila> yeah
<sad_plan> hm, nice
<midfavila> up to 1.2k iirc as long as you have either a trades designation or company letter saying it's necessary for employment
<sad_plan> what tools do you intend on buying?
<midfavila> i want to get one of those ifixit kits
<sad_plan> I see
<midfavila> plus a pinecil etc
<sad_plan> aah, some of those kits are really nice
<midfavila> yob
<sad_plan> Ive been curious about buying a pincil too, but I dont really have a need for it
<sad_plan> nor the ifixit kits
<midfavila> i might be able to argue for my laptop too since i mostly use it for work stuff... >.>
<sad_plan> I have lots of other tools which should mostly cover w/e
<sad_plan> perhaps
<midfavila> that's fair
<midfavila> the boss has been making me do a bunch of stuff. my job title might as well be tech monkay
<midfavila> monkey
<midfavila> fuck
<midfavila> gdi
<midfavila> i'm glad i have more coffee on the way
<midfavila> xwx
<midfavila> but yeah the shop i work at doesn't have any tools i would need because like, it's a woodshop
<midfavila> they dont need precision screwdrivers or antistatic work surfaces etc
<sad_plan> good luck using a saw to fix computers :p
<midfavila> tbf ive used knives before
<sad_plan> ive used less than ideal tools to fix shit too, but Id prefer to have the right tool for the job