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<midfavila> what'd i miss
<midfavila> ?
<midfavila> also hi riteo
<midfavila> :3333333333333
<midfavila> have any of you ever looked at the Y window system?
<midfavila> old and experimental but honestly looks nice
<midfavila> i might try to knead it into working on a modern system if need be
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<asimovc> riteo: your .config from kernel don't changed anything
<asimovc> i just don't know anymore
<asimovc> can you send me your mdev stuff?
<asimovc> maybe it
<asimovc> or something else
<asimovc> i don't know why is just me getting this if is the same build
<midfavila> hi asimovc :3
<asimovc> hi midfavila
<asimovc> are you using kiss?
<midfavila> :33333333
<midfavila> no
<midfavila> atm my x86 machine is running slackware
<asimovc> oh
<midfavila> uconsole is still on ubuntu
<asimovc> i forget
<midfavila> im going to be using kiss again once i get my workstation shipped
<midfavila> at least until i'm content with my custom linux
<asimovc> riteo: can you tell me how are you exec pipewire? maybe something related to this
<midfavila> at that point i'll probably stop using kiss on my personal machines
<asimovc> are you creating your own distro?
<midfavila> ye
<asimovc> awesome
<asimovc> you have it on a repo or a link?
<midfavila> not yet
<midfavila> i'm still getting all the sources pulled
<asimovc> understood
<midfavila> basically its just my normal set of kiss packages but using pm(1) instead of kiss lel
<asimovc> and waht are the specs? core utils, libc, etc
<midfavila> coreutils i'm still deciding on
<midfavila> if i can use the suckless tools i will
<midfavila> if i have to include a pile of other supplements i'll likely go with busybox
<midfavila> the big question atm is suckless tar
<midfavila> if theyve fixed the issues with it i'll be able to drop libarchive
<midfavila> but yeah rn it's looking like suckless
<midfavila> with bearssl, my apport tool instead of wget, loksh for the shell, etc
<asimovc> loksh
<asimovc> never heard about
<midfavila> afaik it's closer to upstream than oksh
<midfavila> it's what's used in debian et al
<midfavila> just oksh with minimal changes to get it to build on linux
<midfavila> libc is musl ofc
<midfavila> display is tinyx with xaw and motif
<midfavila> going to be rewriting my old FVWM config for it
<midfavila> i'm also thinking of releasing the system using an iso
<midfavila> have a slackware-style setup script that installs the core plus other packagesets the user requests onto a CramFS root
<midfavila> really depends on how CramFS affects the usability of the system and whether or not preconfiguring software can get around that
<midfavila> i've never experimented with it but i like the idea of a super-tiny compressed root filesystem that just gets read into RAM on boot
<midfavila> wait no squashfs. cram was obsoleted
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<midfavila> wew alright time to refresh my fvwm knowledge
<midfavila> haven't touched it in like four years...
<sad_plan> probably about time then :p
<midfavila> until i become a gigachad C programmer
<midfavila> until then fvwm is more than sufficient :3
<midfavila> i've not found a better way to imitate QNX Photon
<midfavila> then again i might just modify taviso's config for now
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<riteo> welp isn't the italian timezone great
<riteo> at least I'm sleeping somewhat enough lately lol
<riteo> asimovc I have literally `exec pipewire` in my sway config
<riteo> as in, sway runs it for me
<riteo> perhaps you could try sway and see if anything changes at all but otherwise I think we're really out of (realistic) options here
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<sewn> midfavila: what's wrong with pax
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<asimovc> riteo: the problem is not the window manager
<asimovc> i tried dwl in alpine and works
<asimovc> also tried sway in kiss and not worked too
<asimovc> and are you sure that is just run exec pipewire? because i just did this in my sway config and pipewire pulse not worked
<asimovc> i need to exec both pipewire and pipewire-pulse so or your configs are too different in build of the packages or something or you just are not giving me the exact information
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<sewn> lol
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<asimovc> sewn: are you still on alpine?
<sewn> yep
<sewn> i JUST setup bluetooth
<sewn> installed it, enabled pipewire, and shit just fucking works and i like it
<asimovc> can you check for me if alpine just works with runing pipewire?
<sewn> yes
<asimovc> i remember i have to run a script pipewire-launcher
<sewn> i am using it right now
<sewn> asimovc: on alpine yes that script just runs pipewire and wireplumber
<sewn> but you can replace that with a single pipewire config file that i made to auto enable pulseaudio and run wireplumber
<sewn> so just 'pipewire' no distro-specific script needed
<asimovc> can you send me that config?
<sewn> on KISS i believe wireplumber is running
<asimovc> yeah kinda
<sewn> what is the issue again
<asimovc> i can't get screencast on kiss from a flatpak application
<asimovc> just audio stuf
<sewn> audio?
<asimovc> if i use the same script that alpine uses
<asimovc> not working
<sewn> no
<sewn> it wont be any differnce
<sewn> audio not working im not suprised, it shouldnt work
<asimovc> no
<asimovc> audio works
<sewn> no i mean screencast audio
<sewn> what app are you using to try to screencast audio
<asimovc> screencast is audio stuff? i getting confused
<sewn> you said your issue is you cant screencast right
<asimovc> yeap
<asimovc> no screensharing
<sewn> ok i try futile help attempt in pm
<asimovc> okay
<asimovc> so
<asimovc> i'm using kiss-dbus stuff to get screensharing
<asimovc> i did what the repo said and still nothing
<asimovc> i using ungoogled chromium from flatpak
<asimovc> i can get audio working
<sewn> check pm!!
<asimovc> okay
<asimovc> what is pm?
<asimovc> i don't have that command
<sewn> you should see my name with a red marker on the left of your client
<sewn> or something similar like that
<asimovc> oh
<asimovc> i see
<asimovc> i'm using kirc
<asimovc> just a sec
<sewn> smh not using senpai
<asimovc> can we talk at discord?
<asimovc> this pm shit will get more time
<sewn> lol
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<riteo> asimovc: pipewire-launcher is an alpine thing
<riteo> I just exec pipewire and pipewire-pulse
<riteo> in the sway config
<riteo> as with sewn stuff just works™ so I have really no idea about wtf is going on sadly
<riteo> good luck folks at debugging this issue
<asimovc> riteo: now i get this from portal-wlr
<asimovc> [ERROR] - pipewire: fatal error event from core
<riteo> oof
<riteo> I think this means that pipewire is shitting itself
<riteo> and if the logs don't say anything new (I don't think they will) I think we're back to square one
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