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<asimovc> riteo: are you using pipewire with libudev-zero?
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<midfavila> man i kinda miss 2020/2021 when things were more active with kiss
<midfavila> cant believe i'm feeling nostalgic for 2020 of all years lmao
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<riteo> asimovc: sorry my bouncer certificate expired :skull:
<riteo> Why is TLS the only encryption available with senpai
<riteo> asimovc: you coul try running `xdg-desktop-portal -r -v` and see if it correctly selects all interfaces
<riteo> asimovc: yes I'm using libudev-zero
<asimovc> well
<asimovc> so is not udev management
<asimovc> you just builded pipewire from community? or you put some changes?
<riteo> plain pipewire
<riteo> only change is the configuration thing
<riteo> but that's audio dependent
<riteo> perhaps xdg-desktop-portal is complaining
<riteo> try the verbose mode and see what interfaces it detects
<riteo> because the main difference I can think of is that I configured it properly
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<asimovc> what my portal said
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<riteo> asimovc: it's finding that, so great ig
<asimovc> also
<asimovc> this is my pipewire log
<riteo> mhhh
<riteo> you sure dwl supports screen sharing?
<asimovc> well
<riteo> do you have wayland-info at hand?
<asimovc> i tested in alpines and fine
<asimovc> wayland-info?
<riteo> it's a tool to see what wayland extensions are avaialble
<asimovc> have you a build of it?
<riteo> I think I have a package def somewhere
<riteo> one sec
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<asimovc> can you send me the pipewire build?
<riteo> sure
<riteo> one sec
<asimovc> my wayinfo
<riteo> it looks like you have the wlr screencopy ext so you _should_ be capable of screen sharing
<riteo> also you could try doing `WAYLAND_DEBUG=1 /usr/lib/xdg-desktop-portal-wlr -r` and see what happens there
<riteo> the idea is that xdg-desktop-portal-wlr is a wayland client that uses this protocol to get frames I think
<asimovc> pipewire just get a fatal error
<asimovc> as i see is the same configs but jack is not enabled and bluez too
<riteo> yeah the issue seems pipewire for some reason
<asimovc> you build just enable jack and bluez
<riteo> yeah
<asimovc> your xdg-portals builds are from kiss-dbus too?
<riteo> nothing fancy
<riteo> yes IIRC
<asimovc> maybe your .profile?
<asimovc> init thing or i dont know
<asimovc> i just put pipewire and pipewire-pulse to exec
<riteo> wait you're running pipewire in the dbus-launch thing?
<riteo> although I'm not sure if that's needed
<asimovc> no
<asimovc> this is my main line in .profile
<asimovc> dbus-run-session dwl -s 'foot -s & pipewire & pipewire-pulse <&-'
<riteo> mh the last few chars are funky but I think thing's working
<asimovc> the last chars are from dwl
<riteo> oh ok
<asimovc> have you looked in my pipewire logs?
<riteo> yes it just randomly says "no file found"
<asimovc> okay
<asimovc> can you send me your mdev config?
<asimovc> maybe it
<riteo> I documented it in my repo
<riteo> nothing relevant
<asimovc> is just that all the mdev config?
<riteo> I documented the changes pretty much
<riteo> it's mostly related to hotplug
<riteo> completely unrelated to screensharing
<riteo> lemme take a look at pw code
<asimovc> can you build pipewire again?
<asimovc> and send me the options that it enablle
<asimovc> when it build
<riteo> let's see
<asimovc> maybe is building something more that is not default enable
<riteo> tbf feels a bit like an environment thing
<riteo> maybe kernel config
<riteo> you have these kernel opts?
<riteo> wait those are for sound
<asimovc> yes
<asimovc> is enabled
<riteo> I have no idea where the file is from
<riteo> wait I'll send you the pw log
<riteo> for buildilng
<asimovc> are you using rtkit?
<asimovc> or polkit
<riteo> nop
<asimovc> as i suspected
<asimovc> why is sdl2 needed?
<riteo> no idea
<riteo> shouldn't be needed
<riteo> not that I am aware of
<asimovc> my pipewire log with verbose
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<riteo> asimovc: it's still that weird error
<riteo> no idea what it's opening
<riteo> asimovc: perhaps you could try setting debug mode with pipewire
<riteo> and get all the debug logs
<asimovc> okay
<asimovc> will try
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<sewn> hallo
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<riteo> hi sewn
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<midfavila> does anyone here know of a text-mode browser that supports libtls?
<midfavila> i've looked at all the usual suspects and they all demand libre or open
<midfavila> at this point the only thing preventing me from replacing libre with bear is a browser...
<sad_plan> midfavila: netsurf? on oasis atleast, it doesnt even use libressl
<midfavila> yeah, i did see that, but doesn't netsurf only run on the framebuffer without a display server?
<midfavila> i'm hoping i can be a chooser and get something curses-like
<midfavila> since some of my devices don't have displays that match the orientation of their framebuffer
<sad_plan> netsurf can run on frambebuffer too, correct
<sad_plan> it can use gtk aswell afaik. not sure what else.
<sad_plan> oh, and wayland obviously, seeing as oasis uses wayland
<midfavila> yeah...
<midfavila> like i said, i'm looking for curses, ideally
<sad_plan> although I think thats somewhat from mcf's patches.
<sad_plan> I suspected as much
<midfavila> if i knew more about C i would just patch links to use libtls tbh
<midfavila> probably do some other stuff to links while i was at it >.>
<midfavila> >10 years ago
<midfavila> ;w;
<sad_plan> great. how about w3m? or just lynx
<midfavila> lynx is bleaaagh and w3m drags in boehm
<midfavila> i'm trying to avoid dragging in extra dependencies while keeping the system relatively small
<sad_plan> hm, doesnt links allow you to.. disable ssl altogether?
<midfavila> well, individual software relatively small, anyway
<midfavila> and yeah i think so but that kind of defeats the purpose
<sad_plan> thats great and all, but its not always realistic to do so :p
<sad_plan> lynx doesnt really require much, but still uses libressl though..
<sad_plan> I get that
<midfavila> youre talking to someone who unironically intends to replace a smartphone with a risc-v handheld with no upstream vendor support
<midfavila> realism is just another construct
* midfavila huff-huffs
<midfavila> but tbh if i don't find something off the shelf i probably will just try to patch links2
<sad_plan> lol. how about elinks?
<midfavila> unmaintained and clunky
<midfavila> i found a few really tiny web browsers that were put out in the mid '00s that were honestly pretty neat but they were also only half complete
<thomas_adam> Chawan looks good, but it's not using libtls. (I'm not sure why one would care...)
<midfavila> o
<midfavila> i'm just finnicky
<midfavila> no real technical reason
<sad_plan> see this one instead https://github.com/rkd77/elinks its maintained. although not sure how less clunky it is
<midfavila> oh huh
<midfavila> neat
<midfavila> i was under the impression it was long dead
<sad_plan> this guy resurected it some time ago iirc
<midfavila> nice
<sad_plan> thomas_adam: there you are. I asked you a question earlier, but you probably missed it. which of the tilde networks do you use? tilde.club?
<sad_plan> noticed couple of then mentions znc atleast
<sad_plan> tilde.club being one of them
<thomas_adam> sad_plan: Yes?
<sad_plan> which of the tilde networks do you use? for the bouncer. tilde.club? or do you just use ssh tunneling or w/e
<sad_plan> thomas_adam: ^
<thomas_adam> sad_plan: tilde.club, and I've used both ssh tunnelling and a bouncer.
<sad_plan> thomas_adam: thanks
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