02:42 <sewn> kiss-dbus

04:17 <riteo> yea as sewn pointed out you gonna need that repo (for dbus and xdg-desktop-portal-*). I'm just gonna add that this only applies to wayland compositors IIRC and that you'll also need pipewire

15:18 <riteo> cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/cycle_count

15:18 <riteo> 1179

15:18 <riteo> chat is my battery cooked

15:31 <sad_plan> riteo: mines says 0 :') but no, I dont belive so. how old is the battery?

15:35 <riteo> it's 4 years old

15:36 <riteo> I can see it discharging in realtime even with "just" a 10 watt load

15:43 <sad_plan> hm. i know altleast car batteries has a expected lifetime of ish 5 years. mines ish 5 years now, and I can see it discharge on just using the terminal

15:43 <asimovc> with kiss-dbus i will get scrensharing in firefox or need to recompile firefox with other deps? Also are you guys using it or flatpak apps?

15:43 <sad_plan> ive always used the charger though. never really used it much without the charger

15:45 <riteo> asimovc: I think you have to recompile it with dbus flags or smht

15:45 <riteo> or use flatpak :P

15:45 <riteo> sad_plan: ooooh that might be why it says 0

15:46 <sad_plan> I was going to suggest the same about firefox :p

15:46 <sad_plan> yeah, im guessing that aswell. I do think ive drained it atleast once or twice, or atleast almost, but I guess not? :P

15:46 <riteo> A full cycle is supposed to be whatever combo that charged/discharges amounts to 100%

15:47 <riteo> I think

15:47 <riteo> oh well :P

15:47 <sad_plan> I guess not then :p

15:47 <sad_plan> can you get a hold of a new battery for you laptop though? if you require to use it using only the battery from time to time

15:48 <riteo> yeye I think I found a decent replacement

15:48 <sad_plan> nice

15:48 <riteo> local company, 2 day shipping

15:48 <sad_plan> awesome

15:48 <sad_plan> even better really. dont have to wait for china to ship the damn thing across the globe

15:51 <riteo> ye buying from china is quite annoying

15:51 <riteo> I tend to make huge lists of things I don't need rn and make one huge order

15:52 <riteo> also I would never buy a battery from china :P

15:52 <riteo> I barely trust this compatible stuff let alone something I can't easily refund

16:02 <sad_plan> are you afraid its backdoored? :p if something is from china? or is a quality thing? :P

16:06 <sewn> asimovc: yes you will need to compile with pipewire and dbus for the... dbus functionality..

16:06 <sewn> or just use flatpak ungoogled chromium :3

16:10 <sad_plan> sewn: or just fuck all that and use surf :3

16:10 <sad_plan> or luakit :D

16:10 <sewn> sir we live in a society

16:11 <sewn> luakit sure surf no its awful

16:11 <phinxy> Does firefox compile without dbus?

16:12 <sewn> yes

16:12 <sewn> you can even keep the notification functionality too

16:23 <vova> For everyone having a SEGFAULT when building a zig project linked to libc, there's a workaround now: https://github.com/ziglang/zig/issues/21963

16:32 <riteo> sad_plan: I am just afraid that the battery will suck :P

16:33 <riteo> I mean, the folks I'm buying it from are quite honest that it's 5 Wh less than a legit battery xD

16:33 <riteo> I can't find a single compatible battery even *claiming* to be equivalent and I'm quite curious why

16:43 <sewn> vova: what a dumb workaround

16:43 <sewn> riteo: whats ur laptop

16:51 <vova> sewn: yep but it works at least

16:57 <sad_plan> riteo: curious indeed :p

17:39 <riteo> sewn: ideapad 3 15ada05

17:39 <riteo> AMD Ryzen 5 3500U 8 gb of ram (of which 2 are vram)

18:08 <sad_plan> almost the same as me. I have r7 3600U :p

18:10 <sewn> me with my i5-3320m

18:43 <riteo> fun fact, the only os this laptop's ssd (outside of KISS) has ever seen was kiss linux

18:43 <riteo> before setting up flatpak I had an arch portable ssd but it was pretty unreliable due to the usb3 connection being extra loose™

18:44 <riteo> USB-A 3 connectors are awful :(

19:09 <riteo> the ssd was for gaming™

19:09 <riteo> I still have it around but I think I forgot the encryption key so its data is garbage now, which is a good thing

19:09 <riteo> SSDs are scary uhhhh

19:10 <sad_plan> ive never had any issues with ssd's tbh. I suppose ive been lucky with my stuff

19:11 <riteo> oh the ssd wasn't the issue per se

19:12 <riteo> it was super crappy but does fine

19:12 <riteo> I think it was the sata-to-usb adapter

19:12 <riteo> and my laptop's ports being kinda crappy

19:12 <riteo> like, the regular usb2-only port fails to enumerate a lot devices, for some bizzarre reason

19:13 <riteo> and they're all super loose

19:16 <riteo> uhhh i'm dumb

19:16 <riteo> in the fun fact I meant (outside of Windows)

19:17 <riteo> as in, I ever only had windows since it was preinstalled and once I made sure the thing worked I instantly put KISS on it

19:17 <riteo> so I used KISS ever since I got this laptop

19:20 <sad_plan> I see. ive had more than that on my laptop. windows, artix, fedora, oasis, kiss, and no oakiss :p

19:20 <sad_plan> ive tried openbsd aswell, but I struggled with some drivers iirc

19:22 <sad_plan> im also not sure i would be happy with obsd anyway. comes with too much stuff imo. although these sets is afaik, by design. removing everything you dont want/need is appearantly a linux things :p

19:27 <riteo> ye that's the main difference afaict

19:27 <riteo> embrace the chaos :P

19:28 <riteo> and if something doesn't end up in your favor just shim

19:28 <riteo> it's shims all the way down

19:28 <riteo> yes thank you I really need pipewire-pulse-alsa-snd-mesa-linux-mac-wine compatibility layer that's perfectly normal

19:34 <sad_plan> I suppose so :p

19:49 <sad_plan> I like the idea of building from the most minimal you can. only to add the fewest pieces possible, to have a complete system. I find it easier to start with zero, and work you way upwards with the smallest configs possible. when building, itll usually in some way or another tell you if youre missing something detrimental. openbsd doesnt really follow this idea, and I suppose thats fine :p

19:50 <riteo> yeah indeed

19:51 <riteo> also makes it easier to "enumerate" what your os depends on

19:52 <riteo> like, if you have an easy way of building stuff it's easier to say "so I need this piece for this and so on", so that you don't have mystery boxes that you have no idea what they are for

19:53 <sad_plan> exacly :D

22:38 <midfavila> kiss kernel when

22:39 <midfavila> riteo unfortunately ur a batterylet now. acquire reform, hook up 12v lead acid battery

22:39 <midfavila> live forever

22:40 <midfavila> also re: ssds not a fan of the new ones :x

22:40 <midfavila> going to have to stock up on SLC NOS models before theyre all gone

22:41 <riteo> midfavila: wait are 12v lead acid batteries actually suitable for computers

22:41 <riteo> also, what's going on with new ssds?

23:54 <midfavila> i mean im sure if you were really determined they could be :P

23:55 <midfavila> batteries are batteries are batteries afaik

23:55 <midfavila> new ssds are tlc or mlc-"3d nand"

23:55 <midfavila> cost reduction measure that also increases size by allowing multiple bits per cell

23:56 <midfavila> wears out individual cells much faster tho

23:56 <midfavila> at least afaik