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<beach>
The dictionary entry for INVALID-METHOD-ERROR says "Whether INVALID-METHOD-ERROR returns to its caller or exists via throw is implementation-dependent". Does that mean that it could "signal an error of type ERROR" using some function other than ERROR?
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<Shinmera>
beach: I'm not sure but it sounds to me like the error could be signalled elsewhere, and invalid-method-error may either signal it itself, or THROW to a tag within the method that then signals the error.
<Shinmera>
or within the call site
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<mi6x3m>
hey friends, how can I say for a symbol which package it was exported from?
<mi6x3m>
something is overshadowing my (iter ...
<mi6x3m>
but (iterate:iter works
<mi6x3m>
so I wanna find out the cause
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<metsomedog>
mi6x3m: does (inspect 'iter) work perhaps?
<mi6x3m>
let me see
<mi6x3m>
it says it's an unbound slot
<mi6x3m>
but executing (iter (for entry in factors) nil))) gives an error "variable entry is unbound"
<mi6x3m>
which is indeed quite confusing
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<mi6x3m>
ok got it metsomedog
<mi6x3m>
inspect is awesome :)
<metsomedog>
yes at least in sbcl it's very detailed :)
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<beach>
Shinmera: Hmm, yes, I think I see. Thanks.
<mi6x3m>
Shinmera, I needed the other way around, who exports symbol
<mi6x3m>
but actually SBCL tells you that, it was just this time the error was weird
<Shinmera>
it'll tell you that, too.
<mi6x3m>
ah cool, let me snippet it, thanks
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<jackdaniel>
assuming that *standard-input* and *standard-output* are bound to something else than *query-io*, which stream should be used by the REPL?
<yitzi>
Y-OR-N-P's default is *query-io*
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<metsomedog>
jackdaniel: hype!
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<beach>
jackdaniel: Not sure what I am looking at. But I have to vanish now. I'll read up tomorrow.
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<mi6x3m>
hey, any way to tell format to output the full list instead of putting ellipsis here and there at weird places?
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<mi6x3m>
this is for a print-object method
<jackdaniel>
beach: it is ECL running in the brower (compiled to web assembly) synchronously interacting with javascript
<jackdaniel>
i.e you can manipulate DOM elements from inside CL functions
<jackdaniel>
generally, without any installation, you could point anyone at the web address and they'll have running CL environment without any installation
<jackdaniel>
the video shows that I'm calling the function ED and it populates the editor written in Javascript with a file
<jackdaniel>
... contents
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<yitzi>
mi6x3m: Ellipsis are probably inserted due to *print-lines* or *print-length*. I suggest you read over the printer section in the spec. Specifically look at 22.1.1.1
<scymtym>
jackdaniel: gilberth mentioned that (a previous iteration of?) this approach had severe performance issues, like computing (fib 32) 1000 times slower than ccl on a very slow computer. have those issues been solved?
<jackdaniel>
scymtym: this perceived performance issue came from the fact that gilberth compiled his function directly in the browser -- hence ECL used bytcodes compiler that performs only a minimal compilation
<jackdaniel>
in other words there was no optimizations whatsoever (hence, the comparison was bad)
<jackdaniel>
if you compile your lisp code to wasm along with ecl, then it should be reasonably fast
<scymtym>
jackdaniel: i see. is there a way to properly compile newly defined functions in this environment?
<jackdaniel>
(so long story short - it is not addressed)
<gilberth>
It still was magnitudes slower than my CLISP WASM port. And I wondered why. Do we know? I mean, it must be something pathological.
<scymtym>
ok. so it works well for "finished" applications but possibly not so well as a fully interactive CL environment. thanks for the explanation
<jackdaniel>
you can compile functions directly in the browser, but that will use the bytecodes compiler
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<jackdaniel>
another interesting aspect of this particular approach is that ecl runs in the main thread (there is no spawned worker thread), so there is full dom access
<jackdaniel>
(and control is yielded to javascript, so it plays nice in the async/await model of js)
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<mrcom>
jackdaniel: (wecl demo) *Very* nice!
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