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<mwnaylor> Specifying the location on the command line works. I'll search around for a better fix. Maybe a wrapper script in my
<mwnaylor> ~/bin directory will do the trick. Main concern is getting emacs slime to start the process and communicate with it.
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<mwnaylor> Sorta works, get a weird polling message in the mini-buffer. Ran `slime-abort-connection'. Message went away, but was still able to interact with the repl.
<mwnaylor> With some ddg search, I'll /probably/ get the right solution. For now, I've got something I can work with.
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<bike> mwnaylor: slime lets you specify arguments to the inferior lisp, if you need em
<bike> you really shouldn't though. i think sbcl's default core location is set on install
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<mwnaylor> I got the solution on the ##slackware channel. I started a bash shell with --login; sbcl worked as it should. Now I can undo my hack and proceed normally. One nice thing about the sbcl install is documentation. I've get the info pages for it. Easily nagivated in emacs.
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<hayley> There's a pattern of getting an ID for an object, and either printing a cycle marker if the ID was seen before (i.e. the object was printed before) or printing the object. Looks like only the latter is different in each use of the pattern.
<hayley> Reminds me of PPRINT-LOGICAL-BLOCK.
<gilberth> Even the ugly printer does that.
<hayley> Who let gilberth out of #lispcafe?
<beach> rainthree: Feel free to submit a pull request when you find a reasonable solution.
<beach> I wrote Clobber mostly as an item of protest against existing solutions for persistence. But it seems it is now used seriously.
<rainthree> beach: Ok. I have done some additions to it already, will push them after more testing. Now I am experimenting to find a solution for the code duplication thing https://paste.rs/8eYzn
<beach> Sounds good.
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<ixelp> diff1 - Diffchecker
<beach> I'm sure it's fine. Can you turn that into a pull request? That way, all I need to do is click.
<rainthree> sure. After I add some tests and some more stuff, maybe separate the serialize methods into a different file
<beach> Sure.
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<Guest39> hello everyone i was wondering if there was something similar to "prophet" (i.e., a library to work with time series) in common lisp...
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<beach> It might be better if you explain the functionality you are after.
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<Guest39> well something that allows me to run wilconson cox test, plot the seasonality/trend and so on... stuff like that
<Guest39> maybe for these kinds of libraries people resort to "py4cl" ?
<Guest39> or what are the use cases for those libraries?
<Guest39> beach even fitting data with a model as it happens in prophet, give a look here https://facebook.github.io/prophet/docs/quick_start.html
<ixelp> Quick Start | Prophet
<Guest39> doing forecast and so on
<Guest39> plotting the components
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<Nilby> Guest39: I don't suppose you mean the Wilcoxon signed rank test?
<Guest39> Nilby sorry ignore that test and focus on the rest of the things i mentioned
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<Shinmera> In case anyone ever wanted a complete listing of all my projects: https://shinmera.com/projects
<ixelp> Projects | Shinmera - Yukari Hafner
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* jackdaniel is split between saying 'very wow' and 'these are rookie numbers, you need to pump these up'; that said even if we only take a mere count of these it's certainly impressive
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<Shinmera> I wish I could retire :v
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<ixelp> Reorganized the code by rainthree · Pull Request #10 · robert-strandh/Clobber · GitHub
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<beach> Merged! Thank you!
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<beach> rainthree: I'll be happy to have you take over the maintenance of Clobber. It is a small system, so it shouldn't be too hard.
<beach> I guess s/take over/take on/ since I haven't been maintaining it. :)
<beach> But I guess you already did. So never mind.
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<rainthree> haha
<rainthree> okay
<beach> Great!
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<subhuman> I'd appreciate comments on this https://0x0.st/XT2G.txt
<subhuman> I barely use CL so I want to know if what I'm doing is silly, also want to know how I'd incorporate best practices into this macro
<rainthree> looks cool
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<rainthree> should the server name be a gensym ? Do you ever need to shut it down?
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<subhuman> rainthree: I think the server defun isn't what you need to shut down the server
<subhuman> You just need the socket var
<rainthree> right
<rainthree> and it's not returned or saved anywhere, #:|server499| also can't be called from the repl, if that is intended
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<subhuman> I actually don't need the defun
<subhuman> I'll just reduce it to (lambda (env) ... (lambda (responder)))
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<rainthree> what are you building
<rainthree> what kind of special weapon
<subhuman> Some silly remote execution stuff
<subhuman> It's not meant to be malicious though
<subhuman> I also want to get good at CL while trying to build this
<rainthree> very cool
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<subhuman> Optimally I'd use usocket though, websocket-driver is just overhead IMO
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<rainthree> subhuman: the first time I encountered some Common Lisp code was on the vx heavens ("virus heavens", the famous Ukrainian site). It was a virus, written in Common Lisp. I remember how strange the code looked to me, it was really really short. "How can this short code, be a virus??"
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<bike> that sounds, uh, exotic.
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<subhuman> rainthree: That's interesting
<subhuman> I'd like to discuss more but I have to go into monitor mode now to DoS some asshole's wifi
<subhuman> Bye
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<subhuman> I need help and advice (https://0x0.st/XT9A.txt), sorry if it's kinda long..
<thuna`> subhuman: Not sure about any canonical way to do something like this but I would probably add a SERVER key argument to the macro which when non-nil would go into the LET where (MAKE-SERVER ENV) is.
<thuna`> Changing the expansion based on whether VAR is bound or not seems like a very error-prone way to go about it
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<paulapatience> Or two macros?
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<ixelp> Yukari Hafner: "Sometimes I remember that I can extend DESCRIBE a…" - TyNET
<thuna`> Shinmera: woah this *is* cool
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<dbotton> if anyone interested tries today Microsoft's new arm PCs, sbcl for intel worked well on it and of course wsl ran native arm versions well
<dbotton> tried
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<ixelp> Lights in the Night --- Flash and the Pan - YouTube
<younder> Sorry..
<younder> That was meant for lispcafe.
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<Shinmera> Last week I was asked to give a very brief (max 10 minutes) talk at my coworking space about my game engine (among many other talks about other engines) to an audience of non-lispers. The unedited recording of the talk is now on youtube: https://youtu.be/C1KWiNYgn6Q?si=hhwvAGCOfJGL1yXv&t=295
<ixelp> 2024 06 13 part 1 - YouTube
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<Fade> Nice. thanks for the link, Shinmera
<Shinmera> Sure.
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<fitzsim> Shinmera: great presentation, thanks for sharing it!
<Shinmera> thanks
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<Fade> agree
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