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<hayley> beach: Yes, SSD storage seems to have become quite cheap. I'm pondering replacing my 2TB mechanical drive (which I use for /home) with an SSD now.
<hayley> ...and now the cheapest model of 2TB mechanical drive is on sale; if it wasn't, the cheapest SSD here (with roughly 10x the throughput) would be ,(format nil "~$ times" (/ 129 75)) more expensive than the cheapest mechanical drive.
<ixelp> (format nil "~$ times" (/ 129 75)) => "1.72 times"
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<hayley> minion: message for pve: I made the mistake of editing SLIME files rather than using another file, but I think this should be all of it <https://gist.github.com/no-defun-allowed/8036ea3b3d7e9bbfa3cf7b5742f76ef3>
<ixelp> SLIME arglist types · GitHub
<minion> message for pve I made the mistake of editing SLIME files rather than using another file, but I think this should be all of it <httpsgist.github.comno-defun-allowed8036ea3b3d7e9bbfa3cf7b5742f76ef3>: I can't be expected to work when CLiki doesn't respond to me, can I?
<hayley> Dangit.
<hayley> You know what, I'll probably be around when pve returns.
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<beach> hayley: Thanks. It is "memo for...:"
<beach> 1.7 or so is significant, but the overall cost is small compared to the total cost of a computer it seems.
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<johnsmith112> hi
<beach> Hello johnsmith112.
<beach> johnsmith112: Are you new here? I don't recognize your nick.
<johnsmith112> uhm how can I remove an element from a list, if said element is a list? I mean (remove 'a '(a b c d e)) works but (remove 'a '(a b c d e)) doesn't
<beach> Try supplying :test #'equal to REMOVE.
<johnsmith112> beach: well, I've been here before but I'm not a regular and I've probably been using various nicknames
<johnsmith112> thank you beach
<beach> By default, the test is #'eql, and usually two lists liks (a b c d e) are not EQL.
<johnsmith112> ah, got it
<beach> Pleasure.
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<beach> johnsmith112: You might also consider #clschool for questions like this.
<Nilby> (remove 'a '(a b c d e)) (remove 'a '(a b c d e)) those are the same picture
<beach> Oh, heh. I think I know what johnsmith112 meant, but didn't read it carefully.
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<johnsmith112> omg
<johnsmith112> correction: I mean (remove 'a '(a b c d e)) works but (remove '(a b) '((a b) c d e)) doesn't
<johnsmith112> copy&paste betrayed me, apparently
<johnsmith112> *meant
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<mi6x3m> hey, can someone help me find out why cl-ppcre:scan doesn't match "^ foo" to " foo"
<mi6x3m> but matches " foo" to " foo"
<mi6x3m> should I pass ^ in another manner?
<mi6x3m> this is in a multiline string
<mi6x3m> I got it, thanks, had to put (?m) at the beginning of the regex!
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<zest> how can we scale common lisp for a web app?
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<zest> most web apps built through js are scalable through like using a vercel function or whatever
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<zest> or, sorry, a service like vercel...
<zest> is there something similar but for common lisp
<zest> or is there a specific way to scale a common lisp web app..
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<edwlan[m]> Standard scale-out behind a load balancer should work just fine
<kathe> hi all. :)
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<jackdaniel> if there is anything that could be called a premature optimization, then it is preparing a web app for critical number of requests as if you were google or something
<edwlan[m]> And, typically, the scaling issue is the database or other systems that manage persistent state, not the web server
<jackdaniel> that kind of thinking works in a devastating way for web standards where big complication comes to cater to 0,01% of users
<edwlan[m]> Yeah, HTTP2 is like this
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<phantomics> zest: It always helps to cache generated HTML pages when possible, a lack of automatic caching is one of the big culprits behind poor scaling in common web technologies like PHP
<phantomics> If you can fulfill most requests with either a cached HTML page or data from a REST service in a format like JSON or XML, that's a good first step to scalability, and flat file access scales very well
<phantomics> The other thing to scale is the data services, and that task varies widely depending on what they do, and could involve database engineering
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