#commonlisp on 2023-05-06 — irc logs at libera.irclog.whitequark.org

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15:36 <knusbaum> Hey, anyone know how to explicitly make a bignum in sbcl?

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15:37 <knusbaum> I've declaimed type bignum on a variable and now it complains that I can't set the value to 0 because it's not of type bignum.

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15:38 <knusbaum> I tried coerce, but no luck.

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15:46 <beach> 0 is never a bignum in SBCL.

15:46 <beach> Try (1+ most-positive-fixnum)

15:47 <beach> Put differently, you don't have a choice between fixnums and bignums. The value of the number determines what it is.

15:48 <beach> But why would you proclaim a variable to be of type bignum?

15:55 <knusbaum> Just experimenting with performance stuff. I wouldn't ever want to do it in the real world.

15:55 <knusbaum> Wondering if it can avoid the generic '*' dispatching to the correct function.

15:55 <knusbaum> Thanks for the info.

15:56 <beach> Pleasure.

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16:13 <knusbaum> trying to think of some interesting projects to do to get back into CL.

16:13 <knusbaum> Specifically around CLOS and maybe MOP.

16:14 <beach> A lot of modern Common Lisp code uses CLOS. Not necessarily the MOP though.

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16:15 <beach> Here are some suggestions: http://metamodular.com/Common-Lisp/suggested-projects.html

16:15 <ixelp> Suggested programming projects

16:15 <beach> But maybe you have seen that page already.

16:15 <knusbaum> Yes, MOP seems like one of those tools that's rarely useful, but when it is, it's *really* useful.

16:15 <knusbaum> I think I have, but I forgot about it. Thanks!

16:15 <beach> Sure.

16:15 <knusbaum> It's been a long time I've been away.

16:15 <beach> Welcome back!

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16:17 <beach> What kind of things are you interested in working on?

16:19 <knusbaum> It depends. I've done a lot of work in other languages ranging from OS kernels to network protocols and distributed systems to GUIs.

16:19 <beach> Impressive!

16:19 <knusbaum> Thanks! This is probably my largest and most useful CL project: https://github.com/knusbaum/clim-gopher

16:19 <ixelp> GitHub - knusbaum/clim-gopher: A gopher browser written in Common Lisp, using the McCLIM UI library.

16:20 <beach> Nice!

16:20 <knusbaum> I think I got a lot of advice from you and a few others here while I was doing that.

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16:20 <beach> Sounds plausible, but I don't remember any of it.

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16:21 <knusbaum> It was at least 5 years ago, so makes sense.

16:21 <beach> It makes sense with my suboptimal memory. :)

16:22 <knusbaum> You know what? I know what I'll do. I had an idea for a document management system that I partially implemented in Go a while ago. I'll try that in CL now that I've discovered a lot of the pitfalls.

16:22 <beach> Sounds good.

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16:23 <knusbaum> tag-based non-hierarchical document database, basically, that you can replicate to various storage backends.

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16:24 <knusbaum> bbl

16:24 * knusbaum waves

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16:46 <contrapunctus> beach: I'd suggest sharing https://codeberg.org/closos/projects/issues instead (and make a Codeberg account so you can interact with this and the McCLIM repository)

16:46 <ixelp> Issues - projects - Codeberg.org

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17:42 <beach> contrapunctus: I'll try to remember all that. Now I am off for today.

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