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<hexology> fwiw i don't think you need to dive in too deeply to the interactive/dynamic compilation stuff
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<MCSH> Hi, I have a noob question, if I have a variable x containing a list, is there a syntactic sugar to assign the car and cdr to two variables at the same time? I thought I saw it somewhere but I'm not sure what to search for.
<hayley> clhs destructuring-bind
<Catie> (destructuring-bind (first-arg second-arg) x ...)
<MCSH> thank you all.
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<nij-> rutils has a "with" macro which is super nice
<nij-> > MCSH
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<contrapunctus> AKA `bind`
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<z4kz> hi #commonlisp
<beach> Hello z4kz. What's up?
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<z4kz> hey
<z4kz> I've decided to get back into learning some common lisp
<beach> Good plan!
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<beach> z4kz: Do you have a plan for that. Like work on a project? Read a book? Do the exercises?
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<CodeBitCookie[m]> Good Morning Everyone!
<beach> Hello CodeBitCookie[m].
<CodeBitCookie[m]> I love Common Lisp
<CodeBitCookie[m]> However,
<jackdaniel> everything before the comma is not evaluated
<CodeBitCookie[m]> Lol. Sometimes I have to use a popular language. Which one should I choose.
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<CodeBitCookie[m]> How much beach loves modularity I think he would not like languages with manual memory management.
<jackdaniel> chose the one starting with C - you may pick between Common Lisp, Clojure, C, C#, C++, surely some more
<CodeBitCookie[m]> What about Rust?
<jackdaniel> it doesn't start with C
<CodeBitCookie[m]> Haha, but seriously.
<jackdaniel> seriously this is a topic for #lispcafe
<CodeBitCookie[m]> where is that?
<jackdaniel> it is an irc channel
<CodeBitCookie[m]> on librechat?
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<jackdaniel> yes
<Alfr> At least he didn't complain about encountering it outside of a backquote.
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<yitzi> jackdaniel: A better match for that topic would be #blublanguage
<jackdaniel> I want to add one more misplaced joke, but if there is a Rust-in-C implementation, then it could be called crust and that would start with C (so it would qualify)
<yitzi> Nice!
<jackdaniel> :)
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<CodeBitCookie[m]> jackdaniel: Hmmm, I can't seem to join it: Reason: IRC error on #lispcafe: err_needreggednick
<CodeBitCookie[m]> Weird.
<jackdaniel> you need to be identified apparently. many channels have +r flag to avoid spambots
<CodeBitCookie[m]> So what do I do to be identified?
<jackdaniel> these were very frequent when libera chat was created, so many channels did put up that flag
<jackdaniel> check out libera.chat FAQ entries; I'm sure that nick registration is covered somewhere in there
<Bike> /msg nickserv help
<CodeBitCookie[m]> Ah, thanks jackdaniel and Bike. However, bike, I am using Matrix.
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<bitblit> It's getting pretty complicated to do that with Matrix.
<bitblit> Can't we just talk about it here
<bitblit> noone is talking about anything else right now anyways.
<jackdaniel> no; channels have topics for a reason. it is not only about /not interrupting anyone/, but also about /not notifying [about new offtopic messages] people who don't care/
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<bitblit> Welp, okay then.
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<dbotton> Is there a way in asdf or quicklisp to list available systems in ~/common-lisp and every other registered directory for asdf systems not loaded?
<pjb> (com.informatimago.tools.quicklisp:quick-list-projects)
<pjb> well, not in ~/common-lisp, but in ~/quicklisp
<pjb> dbotton: I guess you'll have to read the documentation of quicklisp and of asdf, and to write some code.
<dbotton> Need to cover every dir used by asdf
<pjb> dbotton: the documentation, and the sources…
<dbotton> You saw something in documentation that indicated it?
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<dbotton> I recently wrote and extended asdf in the last day or so, wrote some code browsers, but didn't notice it
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<dbotton> pjb, looks like I found away without having to force. Thanks!
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<pjb> perhaps there's a function that returns all the directories that are configured?
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<dbotton> the only one being missed it seems is common-lisp and by adding it to ql:*local-project-directories* quicklisp picks it up
<dbotton> strange the he left it out, I wish knew why
<dbotton> but once in I can start from there to get the asd files
<dbotton> I want to build a "concept" of projects along side or part of asdf
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<dbotton> and want to browser for non-loaded "projects" too. I'll probably have to parse the asdf files to get the sub projects like clog/tools or load and unload them
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