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<jjuran> I drink your ipv6 going down
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<zid> I blame jjuran.
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<gog> i steal your ipv6
<gog> i drink it up
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<heat_> ipv6 fanum tax
<gog> bro really made that joke before ipv6
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<childlikempress> if ipv6 is so good how come there isn't ipv7
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<heat_> if how come there isnt
<kof673> these are the 2 serpents...i take your eyes [puts cloth of darkness over sun and moon serpents]........it'd be too long to make a proper joke :D
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<cloudowind> does kof king of figters
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<Matt|home> as utterly loathe as i am to admit it, at least microsoft seems to do a better job at introductory tutorials than anyone else i've ever seen
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<cloudowind> has anyone dynamically compiled and built e2fsprogs utils-linux core-utils and systemd? for some reason when i do so and create an initramfs i do get like 95mb wondering if its nomral
<kof673> modern stuff likely needs "make install-strip" or equivalent, just a wild guess
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<cloudowind> hmm
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<cloudowind> thanks kof that saved me 20mb so far , butr havent booted with the new initramfs hope stripping didnt break anything
<cloudowind> but instead of make strip i d did find /rootfs/bin rootfs/sbin -type f -exec strip --strip-unneeded {} + , and 95mb reduced to 75ishes
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<sortie> CFLAGS='-Os -s' generally helps if you wanna keep things small, can't speak to these packages in particular, only compiled e2fsprogs for other uses
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<cloudowind> thank you sortie i will keep that somewhere and try next time while compiling
<sortie> Setting that environment variable when running configure is usually respected
<cloudowind> ok:/cheers
<cloudowind> so it sells optimization level 1 with 0 and strip all symbols with -s
<cloudowind> *tells
<sortie> -Os optimizes for small size
<cloudowind> thank you both heaps , time to rest night here
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<netbsduser`> i need to learn the secret of STREAMS
<netbsduser`> it will be a perfect complement to my existing async i/o scheme (which is designed more for filesystems and disks)
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<sortie> netbsduser`: Good luck :) I never looked at it because it seems that nobody uses it and it's obsolescent IIRC
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<netbsduser`> sortie: cheers, i just love the idea of it, the elegance
<netbsduser`> i want to assemble my ttys by pushing the line discipline module onto the STREAMS stack
<heat_> yo that's crazy i just woke up in 1998 haha
<netbsduser`> you're off by 10 years
<heat_> in 98 STREAMS was still PEAK TECHNOLOGY
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<heat_> i think
<heat_> solaris moved their network stack off of it like 10 years after 98
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<netbsduser`> what i want to figure out (if i can) is how to mesh it with mod cons
<netbsduser`> like cpu-affinitised tcp connections
<heat_> do you have softirqs?
<heat_> or whatever the BSD variant of it is?
<netbsduser`> yes, i couldn't live without them
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<heat_> how do you deal with them starving other threads?
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<netbsduser`> i have no solution to this yet other than if it's a lot of work then maybe post it to a worker thread instead
<heat_> yeah i'm experiencing some nasty slowdowns with softirq (and irq) storms i think
<heat_> having a single cpu handling all irqs is also not optimal i've heard
<netbsduser`> i should think that could be a big problem
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<netbsduser`> with modern peripherals (nvme, virtio, modern NICs) i want to move to the "one queue per cpu with an msix targeted to that cpu" model
<heat_> i'm also tracking down a weird problem where i can't max out bandwidth when doing IO against a raw disk vs a file
<heat_> with the page cache in front, ofc
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<Ermine> RTW kinda lags on intel. Maybe I should give dxvk another try
<zid> really.. tiny.. warcraft
<Ermine> rome: total war
<zid> dang, getting that to lag is impressive
<zid> (also, rome: total war is basically really tiny warcraft)
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<Ermine> or am I thinking too much of integrated graphics
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<cloudowind> goodays people
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