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* kof673 puts * on top of ascii tree
<vampiredamewood> What sort of build system does everyone use for their OSes?
<kof673> i'm not done with obscure jokes yet, hold on > The tree of the year and the boundary had typically blossomed anew at the time of the summer solstice. > The FIR-tree is pyramidal, named from the same root, and chosen for its shape as a Christmas tree, or a FIRE-tree > The Baal-fire then, it is repeated, belongs to Midsummer and the rising of Sothis, visible as the Dog in the tree # un chien and a lucina [may 1st]...hermes sli
<kof673> cing up argos/pavo
<kof673> shell script, but slowly writing a horrible "shell" language of sorts
<kof673> then i will write sort of "makefiles" in that
<Mutabah> vampiredamewood: make wrapping cargo for me :)
<Mutabah> (and `make` for when I was doing pure C)
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<vampiredamewood> I'm a little rusty on cargo.
<Mutabah> huehuehue
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<zid`> Security warning: It is possible, under certain conditions, to read some bits of information from a C++ error message, which in a low but non-negligible fraction of circumstances, could be theoretically be used by an attacker to figure out why the compile failed.
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<kof673> i have decided with very simple commands, and goto/labels...don't even have to parse anything really ...so it will have labels lol this will be horrible, but ease of implementation and parsing should be easy
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<kof673> in the meantime, very simple shell, no functions even (but i use eval) ...and try to keep external commands minimal. goal is just have minimal dependencies
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<kof673> a "target" just sets a bunch of variables basically, so little target-specific fragments just set variables mostly
<kof673> it does not do anything a true make does, but ....i am ok with that for now
<kof673> i wanted an expect-like thing, that just reads a line from a stream, sends a line to another stream....but that is not a large step to add a few more things and get a sort of "shell"...add variables, ability to invoke external commands, etc.
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<kof673> ints_eq? G G L; # G == name of integer variable, L == inline label name aka a literal label name if statements, never heard of them
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<the_oz> used to use a python script, but now I use a plain Makefile. Sometimes I get jenkins to invoke that Makefile.
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<kof673> > Three Star Programmer - C2 wiki wiki.c2.com › ThreeStarProgrammer A rating system for C-programmers. The more indirect your pointers are (i.e. the more "*" before your variables), the higher your reputation will be.
* kof673 reserves triplefireprogramming.org
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<kazinsal> a pile of bash, then a pile of make under that that's 80% bash by line count
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<vai> hi
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<dormito> Hmmm. the wiki's PCI page seems to have confusing info about PCI BARs. The text suggests the BAR points to physical RAM (and indeed says so). when it's actually a decode address (aka which addresses the device should respond to)
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<zid`> yea just very awkward wording
<zid`> it's a physical *address*, not physical memory
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<Ermine> Is anybody going to buy intel dGPUs that are going to be released this year?
<nikolar> is that a rhetorical question
<kof673> that's interesting, because AFAICT normally that was just called a video card (although perhaps other definitions before the kof-era)
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<kof673> lemme check my "online documentation" .........
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<Ermine> nikolar: no, I wonder if anybody is going to buy it and say whether it's good or not
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<cow> Ermine: if i have any money yes
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