<inky> now for some reason maemo doesnt show both tor buttun and brightness applet...
<Wizzup> this happens if status area crashes, then it does not load 'unsafe' plugins
<Wizzup> try to restart status area
<inky> Mmm... How?
<inky> Minute
<inky> I think i know
<inky> I have this script
<inky> 75hildon-status-menu
<inky> I moved it to 75 becasue someone, i guess arno11 suggested, and it solved the issue with tor button not shwoing up.
<inky> So inside i see...
<inky> ddsmetool -t /usr/bin/hildon-status-menu
<inky> should i run it as root or as user?
<inky> running as root didnt help
<inky> Ok i'll try to reboot once again
<inky> Doesnt help even if i run it as user
<inky> Reboots didnt help, update and reboot too..
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<inky> The only thing i could get out of it was strace... https://bpa.st/YTCA
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<dsc_> trying to update kexecboot, whats the process?
<dsc_> $ sudo fastboot flash bpsw droid4-kexecboot.img
<dsc_> fastboot: error: cannot load 'droid4-kexecboot.img': No such file or directory
<dsc_> (Yes im noob)
<dsc_> ah, from tmlind
<dsc_> so kexecboot 0.6 is latest?
<Wizzup> you just take the one from the 'current' map yes
<Wizzup> inky: gdb should allow you to attach too
<dsc_> Wizzup: whats this GPS GUI app called?
<Wizzup> the one I mentioned the other day?
<dsc_> kk
<Wizzup> some distros did a lot of de-vendoring https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/issues/395
<dsc_> i can untangle the vendored stuff but then keeping up with upstream will be annoying
<dsc_> suppose keeping up with upstream with will annoying regardless since there's also GUI & UX changes needed
<dsc_> will be*
<Wizzup> well it is probably worth seeing what o thers did first
<Wizzup> IMO, vendoring is a complete pain and distro-averse
<Wizzup> so yes it will be a pain to keep up with upstream, but that is what happens if one vendors everything
<dsc_> yes
<dsc_> its just nice to have a good working GPS map thing on Leste, regardless if the version may be outdated
<Wizzup> fwiw it might also be that we need a newer debian for it to work, and then we just suspect for now I suppose
<Wizzup> yeah so I have a amd64 package/build on my vm
<Wizzup> but without a debian pkg/deb I think
<Wizzup> it might also be worth looking at or trying the flatpak wrt vendoring
<Wizzup> it has no armhf available, but it has aarch64 available
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<dsc_> git clone --recursive = 6gb
<dsc_> 31 vendored libs
<dsc_> 40k commits
<dsc_> just to show some maps :D
<Wizzup> yeah 30GB space needed for build
<Wizzup> like I said, it's quite big
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<inky> was someone able to look at my strace?
<Wizzup> I don't know what to do with it, please install the debug symbols and use gdb
<Wizzup> does 'pkill status' bright it back, btw?
<dsc_> Wizzup: simple app using QtLocation: https://plak.infrapuin.nl/selif/5temmy1z.jpeg
<dsc_> 30fps smooth
<dsc_> so maybe worth to spend a day or two on this just so we have something?
<dsc_> its already working, just need directions/route calc
<dsc_> touch/dragging also works quite well
<dsc_> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<Wizzup> we already have map applications than can show things
<Wizzup> but the routing is really complicated and organicmaps is quite advanced
<dsc_> ah ok
<Wizzup> there are maep, cloudgps and one more that I forget
<Wizzup> but they won't let you search for places and do routing
<Wizzup> which organicmaps does
<Wizzup> also just navigating to a street address so to say
<dsc_> latest organicmaps is qt6 btw
<Wizzup> hm, when I last compiled it, it was still qt5
<Wizzup> btw, I was thinking we should include our manual on the device
<Wizzup> either as pdf or html page
<inky> Wizzup, thaaaank you, pkill status solved the issue!
<Wizzup> so it was what I mentioned then, it crashes on startup and then starts the fail safe version.
<Wizzup> freemangordon: any ideas how we should do dtmf?
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<Wizzup> I'm looking to switch away from fremantle imminently, and the only things I really need is DTMF in rare cases
<bencoh> ofono has no dtmf support?
<Wizzup> I think it does/might, but we talk with telepathy-ring
<Wizzup> and I don't think ofono knows how to do dtfm to our modem
<Wizzup> since we have alsa(mixer) controls for it
<bencoh> ah
<Wizzup> right :)
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<buZz> i've used the alsamixer stuff to get through some menu a couple times
<buZz> it works, but kinda cumbersome
<sicelo> bencoh: ofono does have dtmf support, yes
<tmlind> 2da052747738 ("qmimodem: voicecall: Implement DTMF tones")
<Wizzup> tmlind: ah! :)
<Wizzup> I don't think we have this in our ofono yet
<Wizzup> ok, so I will add the dtmf code to the sphone vcm module
<Wizzup> uvos: got a preferred way for doing this interface wise?
<Wizzup> some handler when people press a number?
<Wizzup> sicelo: freemangordon: should we go to ofono 2.7 then?
<sicelo> i would like to say Yes, yes :-)
<sicelo> but i've never tried it on d4 ... at least fmg will Know how close things are or what's missing
<Wizzup> ok
<Wizzup> maybe I just need to patch in some fork+exec for amixer locally :P
<Wizzup> We can try 2.7 for experimental, but I'd like to wait for fmg, he's been very good with ofono
<Wizzup> I mean he took over the maintenance a bit I think
<Wizzup> (for us)
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<inky> btw adam piggz is the developer of amazfish.
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<tmlind> replied to the lost qmi modem events thred fyi: https://lore.kernel.org/ofono/2146730.9o76ZdvQCi@adam-laptop-hp/T/#u
<Wizzup> great
<Wizzup> sicelo: freemangordon: I plan to make the user-guide.desktop do this: Exec=x-www-browser /usr/share/path/to/maemo-user-guide
<Wizzup> of course the user guide will become a package
<Wizzup> any objections?
<sicelo> what about N900 :p
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<sicelo> but sure, sounds like fine idea to me
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<Wizzup> sicelo: x-www-browser could be dillo
<Wizzup> ?
<Wizzup> does anyone remember how to make a browser show up in update-alternatives? I seem to have forgotten
<Wizzup> I think maybe our packages don't do this yet
<Wizzup> update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/x-www-browser x-www-browser /usr/bin/jib 210
<Wizzup> yeah so we need to do some postinst / prerm stuff
<Wizzup> dsc_: I pushed to jib a commit that will make it the default browser
<Wizzup> sicelo: so what browser *should* we default to on n900
<arno11> Wizzup: the only usable one i know is links2 (graphical), all others i tried were unusable
<Wizzup> is this the one you use?
<arno11> yes
<Wizzup> what is the package name?
<arno11> links2
<arno11> there is a cli mode and a graphical mode
<Wizzup> ok
<Wizzup> so dillo didn't work well for you?
<arno11> i never tried it, let me few min to try :)
<Wizzup> I guess the downside is that if we use dillo from debian it won't show up in the main app menu but in the debian submenu :D
<arno11> yep
<arno11> wow seems to work fine
<Wizzup> ah dillo doesn't do touch screen though
<Wizzup> or maybe it does on n900
<arno11> touch woks
<arno11> *works
<Wizzup> I mean scrolling with a gesture
<arno11> ah indeed not
<Wizzup> but neither does links2
<Wizzup> we could build a simple ui around dillo for the n900, but I don't think I will do it :)
<arno11> :)
<arno11> well, dillo can't load too heavy websites unfortunately
<arno11> links2 does, most of the time
<Wizzup> links2 -g ?
<arno11> yep
<arno11> what is the weblink for the user guide btw ?
<arno11> ty
<Wizzup> but I was using file:/// on my droid4 with jib
<arno11> ok
<Wizzup> I think dillo does a better job of rendering it than links2 -g tbh
<Wizzup> we also had surf2 btw, but it might also be too slow for n900
<Wizzup> (it's also webkit)
<arno11> links2 needs some tweaks/settings btw and u must disable compo
<arno11> i just tried the user guide and it's not bad
<arno11> (yes surf2 is too slow)
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<arno11> image loading works better on links2 (compare to dillo)
<arno11> but dillo is far easier to use for basic stuff
<arno11> so imo it is the right browser for the user guide
<arno11> (dillo)
<arno11> dillo is a way faster with compo disable btw
<Wizzup> interesting, for me, on links2, the images do not load at all
<arno11> that's weird
<Wizzup> do you use links -g urlhere ?
<Wizzup> or something else?
<Wizzup> well, links2
<arno11> yep
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<arno11> (you can start links2 gui mode from hildon debian submenu btw)
<arno11> i just tried again and user guide images load fine
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<Wizzup> ok
<Wizzup> so I think there was some other stuff I had to check, the ringtones, and the leste-config changes / cssufeatures stuff?
<Wizzup> probably better tomorrow, but yea :)
<arno11> yes there is all that stuff to check, indeed better tomorrow :)
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