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<sicelo>
unic0rn: yup. i also found old N900 charger (1A) works better than a modern Samsung charger (2A or greater)
<sicelo>
but also charging depleted device from a computer's USB port doesn't really work, because you can't mess with the data pins then
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<uvos__>
"<Wizzup> it depends on whether kexecboot is installed as well" no it dose not, mbm dosent boot below 3.1 or so volts if the d+ d- arnt tied together like on a dumb charger, this is the case regardless of kexecboot
<uvos__>
Wizzup: good, but the image is ofc not that usefull yet untill the display works properly
<Wizzup>
yup, but I'm just trying to tackle anything I can now for the nlnet stuff
<Wizzup>
since the razr is really neat hw wise
<Wizzup>
I also have a xt910 image if you want to test it
<unic0rn>
before I'll forget, is a sim card needed for droid 4? I recall seeing such a note under power usage
<unic0rn>
how's the battery drain anyway?
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<dsc_>
if the battery is healthy its pretty good
<dsc_>
"pretty good" being my non scientific answer :P
<Wizzup>
so yeah, this really depends on the battery
<Wizzup>
I have a battery that freemangordon helped me make
<Wizzup>
based on a e960 battery, using parts of the droid battery
<Wizzup>
I get 2+ days idle
<Wizzup>
but this other droid4 I have with a stock weak battery gets like 17 hours
<Wizzup>
I basically don't worry about my d4 battery life during the day/night and usually charge it in the morning
<Wizzup>
it's been my trusty alarm for 1+ year now
<uvos__>
no sim power usage problem is sloved i think
<uvos__>
should be anyhow
<uvos__>
you need to cfun=0 the modem when there is no sim and i think the modem deamon fmg wrote dose this
<uvos__>
battey life is ok, i get 1 day usually, but it drops like a stone if you use the device
<arno11>
dsc_: btw ram usage is still stable after 48 hours on my device
<unic0rn>
thanks for all the info so far :) the battery should be more or less ok, dropped like 3% from 90% in 8-9h of idle time under android, airplane mode though
<dsc_>
arno11: thanks for testing :) got another commit coming later today
<dsc_>
arno11: whats your RAM usage?
<arno11>
dsc_: really cool (commit)
<arno11>
ram usage is around 100MB free/available (idle)
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<arno11>
when i use conversations, ofc ram usage is a bit heavy but still back to normal when i close it
<dsc_>
maybe after this commit its 70MB idle
<dsc_>
lets see
<arno11>
amazing
<arno11>
yep
<arno11>
it should help N900's a lot
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<uvos__>
unic0rn: android in idle + airplane mode uses about 10% of the power of leste
<arno11>
uvos__: btw what is D4 idle current draw actually ? (just to compare with n900)
<uvos__>
30ish mW in leste
<uvos__>
er mA
<uvos__>
30mA or there about
<arno11>
not bad
<uvos__>
i mean compared to android its still pretty terrible
<uvos__>
but yeah its not _that_ bad
<arno11>
yes indeed
<uvos__>
bionic dose a bit better for some reason
<uvos__>
25mA or so
<arno11>
ok (btw on N900, i got 39-43 modem OFF and 47-52 modem ON)
<arno11>
on bionic, the kernel config is different, or ?
<uvos__>
no its the same
<uvos__>
the hw just uses less power for whatever reason
<uvos__>
android also uses les
<arno11>
ah ok
<uvos__>
its a bit strange since they are so simmilar
<arno11>
yes indeed
<uvos__>
dunno where the 5ma are going on d4
<arno11>
maybe an additional sensor ?
<uvos__>
bionic has an addiitional sensor chip
<uvos__>
a seperate magnetometer chip
<uvos__>
so it has more mouths to feed not less :P
<arno11>
yep lol
<uvos__>
ah no its a gyro not a maenetometer
<uvos__>
both d4 and bionic have magn.
<uvos__>
but only bionic has a gyro on a seperate chip
<uvos__>
anyhow still bionic has more sensors
<arno11>
ok
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<arno11>
anyway i wonder if main blockers are similar (D4, N900, Bionic)
<arno11>
*RET / OFF blockers
<uvos__>
nothing actively blocks ret in idle on d4/bionic (ie it works)
<uvos__>
and the kernel dosent support off mode at all for omap4
<arno11>
ah ok
<uvos__>
the last bit is probubly the main culprit for androids better performance
<uvos__>
since it spends quite a bit of time in off
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<dsc_>
conversations has been c++20 since 3 weeks hehe
<Wizzup>
okay cool
<dsc_>
but this seems to save a lot of mem, like 50mb
<dsc_>
and then opening a chat window adds 10mb
<Wizzup>
interesting, so we still have some qml stuff in there, but the overview one was more memory heavy than the chat windows?
<dsc_>
on close, it actually releases that 10mb
<dsc_>
Wizzup: I am a bit puzzled yeah
<Wizzup>
yeah we don't close the main window in conversations right, we just hide it
<Wizzup>
so that could not be freed
<Wizzup>
unless you actually closed the window rather than hide
<dsc_>
no, I destroyed the QML engine on mainwindow hide
<Wizzup>
maybe I remember wrong
<Wizzup>
ok
<dsc_>
Wizzup: could you check if your overview looks ok and then maybe make a new tag?
<dsc_>
+ build
<dsc_>
brb
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<Wizzup>
ok
<Wizzup>
let me build on my d4
<d4dsc>
nvm got 2 small fixes still
<d4dsc>
but you can still test
<Wizzup>
ok, building atm
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<arno11>
Wizzup: vm and nr_request stuff seems to work fine, i've been able to download a PSX game from the web and unzip the img from the N900 with no troubles and in a couple of min ! ofc the device was slowing down but not much, still able to use it at the same time (with around 90MB of free ram)
<arno11>
with boost 720
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<arno11>
i used links2 to download
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<arno11>
and ofc the unzipped game works (758MB)
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<Wizzup>
arno11: sweet, would be nice to have the ps emulate packaged
<Wizzup>
uvos: I am going to modify the kexecboot mapphone config stuff to make /boot/boot if it doesn't exist
<arno11>
Wizzup: ah yes indeed, but the problem is that the emulator is only D4 and N900 friendly
<Wizzup>
what do you mean?
<Wizzup>
needs a physical keyboard?
<arno11>
yep
<Wizzup>
then just put that in the description :)
<Wizzup>
most of our users use the n900 or d4 anyway
<arno11>
yes indeed
<arno11>
there is picodrive and drnoksnes as well
<arno11>
drnoksnes needs additional repo from android-808 iirc
<arno11>
*pkg from repo
<arno11>
there are missing in Leste repos (but they build fine)
<arno11>
picodrive doesn't need any specific stuff iirc
<arno11>
anyway i'll doublecheck
<Wizzup>
just let me know, I can help this weekend
<arno11>
ah ok cool, ty
<dsc_>
Wizzup: can I force push to master for a small change or just a commit
<dsc_>
or should I do a commit*
<dsc_>
ill commit
<Wizzup>
pls commit
<Wizzup>
unless you need to wipe out a password or something