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branon>
why was /home created by tmpfiles.d is the real question
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branon>
isn't useradd supposed to do that
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branon>
> At least on the Debian side of things, /home is shipped in base-files
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branon>
so which distros let systemd create /home via systemd-tmpfiles is the real question
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branon>
this seems like a distro misusing a systemd tool
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branon>
oh he's on debian unstable, maybe i am misunderstanding something
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branon>
shipping tmpfiles.d/home.conf seems like a wrong decision by the distro
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buZz>
branon: remember the 'useradd' drama re: systemd? :D
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buZz>
TLDR useradd follows posix, so lets you add usernames that start with numbers
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buZz>
systemd isnt compatible with posix, any username starting with '0' will be root to systemd :D
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buZz>
(because lennard only tests with redhats adduser)
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branon>
i do remember :X if you create a user with a number as the first character, you still get warnings on current systemd distros
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branon>
disappointing
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buZz>
with useradd?
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buZz>
it never beats the 'rm -rf' issue with systemd :D
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buZz>
where lennard was suprised that 'rm -rf /directory' -doesnt- also recursively delete the '..' directory in there :D
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branon>
actually it's the `adduser` wrapper that warns
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branon>
adduser: Please enter a username matching the regular expression configured
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branon>
via the NAME_REGEX configuration variable. Use the `--force-badname'
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buZz>
sometimes i feel like he's developing on windows
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branon>
option to relax this check or reconfigure NAME_REGEX.
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branon>
`useradd` will do it without complaint
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branon>
i never understood the difference
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buZz>
branon: right, useradd follows posix
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buZz>
adduser follows whatever redhat wants
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kiva>
Vivaldi Browser works with Pinephone Keyboard with Leste!!
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kiva>
although not easy install..needs some debencies first and first "welcome" start hang, but second start works!
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kiva>
have to start from terminal (does not install icon) it gives some error messages to terminal, but works.
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kiva>
the deb package was that arm64 package in Vivaldi web page..btw there is also arm package..so if somebody wants test it also with droid or N900
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kiva>
actually it install nice icon to debian folder.
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kiva the icon install is something we did as a generic solution I think
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buZz: heh it really would not suprise me that mutch if lennard announced that he swiched his delopment platform to wsl
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uvos>
still systemd is over all an improvment over sysv or openrc
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kiva>
Wizzup: That generic solution works well.
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* sicelo
opens the article
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sicelo>
meantime ... openrc itself is on life support, it seems
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unic0rn>
re systemd, it's usually convenience vs security
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unic0rn>
I'm on chromeos, linux container inside is a regular debian, but natively afaik chromeos is based on arch and uses upstart
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unic0rn>
so there can be a balance
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unic0rn>
systemd is a joke
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branon>
chromeos uses upstart? that's awesome, i always liked upstart
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branon>
one of the few canonical projects i wish they had kept going with
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branon>
also partial to runit as used in void linux, though it is quite bare bones with plenty of sharp edges
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sicelo>
fremantle used upstart too
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branon>
08:10:47 <branon>shipping tmpfiles.d/home.conf seems like a wrong decision by the distro
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branon>
i don't see how this can be refuted tbh
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branon>
systemd didn't force anyone to create /home with a utility called **tmp**files
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Technically, if you think about it, aren't all files temporary in the end?
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dsc_>
that depends on if you use seagate barracuda HDDs or not
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branon>
for me it's WD blues
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