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<Wizzup> uvos: freemangordon, I am looking at the diff between devel and stable
<Wizzup> Packages in chimaera-devel that are newer than chimaera
<Wizzup> dsme 0.61.13+m7 (> 0.61.10+m7 )
<Wizzup> hildon-base 1.14+m7 (> 1.10+m7.1 )
<Wizzup> hildon-meta 2.4+m7 (> 2.3+m7 )
<Wizzup> maemo-system-services 0.6.10-0+m7 (> 0.6.9-0+m7.1 )
<Wizzup> mce 1.10.8+m7 (> 1.10.5+m7 )
<Wizzup> osso-af-startup 1.81.13+m7 (> 1.81.12+m7 )
<Wizzup> python-mafw 0.2+m7.1 (> 0.2+m7 )
<Wizzup> leste-config 1.96-1+m7 (> 1.88-1+m7.1 )
<Wizzup> xorg-server 2:1.20.11.4-1+m7 (> 2:1.20.11.2-1+m7.1 )
<Wizzup> I think we can move all of these over, agreed?
<Wizzup> btw if oyu're upgraded to latest devel the nyou can install openmediaplayer from ham
<Wizzup> it's only for internet radio atm
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<_uvos_> Wizzup: mce anf leste-config are fine
<_uvos_> im unsure what the others entail
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<Wizzup> uvos: I think it is still logind related stuff
<Wizzup> but I've been using it on all my devices
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<tmlind_> Wizzup: bionic was working on 3g with t-mobile prepaid sim.. not sure if they still have 3g running, probably not
<tmlind_> some tcmdrw commands were needed for 3g voice calls, i think i posted them here a while back in case you have some prepaid 3g sim still working..
<tmlind_> xt910 has the qmi over spi modem that likely will never work
<tmlind_> bionic is xt875 fyi
<Wizzup> tmlind_: yeah it works on 2g on other networks
<Wizzup> tmlind_: why do you mean it will likely never work?
<Wizzup> 'yeah it works' = bionic
<Wizzup> 'it will likely never work' = xt910
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<Wizzup> arno11: so just this:
<Wizzup> 19:58 < arno11> you need to use resample-method = trivial, alternate-sample-rate = 4000 and avoid-resampling = false in daemon.conf to get sip calls working both ways -and see the 3 PA daemons running-
<Wizzup> or is this on top of other changes
<arno11> hi. just this should be enough for sip
<arno11> (reboot needed)
<Wizzup> or service pulseaudio restart
<Wizzup> ?
<arno11> not enough
<Wizzup> and this is in system.pa yeah?
<Wizzup> wait no
<Wizzup> daemon.conf
<arno11> in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf, yep
<Wizzup> I'll do /etc/pulse/daemon.conf.d/00-leste.conf
<Wizzup> I also have:
<Wizzup> default-sample-rate = 48000
<Wizzup> remixing-consume-lfe = yes
<Wizzup> should those go?
<arno11> you need default-sample-rate = 44100
<Wizzup> and do you test with headphones or with speakers
<arno11> and no matter for lfe
<arno11> it works with both
<Wizzup> will setup twinkle acc and then reboot
<arno11> if you have last ucm
<arno11> ok
<Wizzup> if I pushed it to repos then I have it
<arno11> yep
<arno11> i just dicovered why there are few troubles with inbound sound during inbound calls
<arno11> PA sink daemon state is locked on 'disk sleep' (the sink is not starting properly)
<Wizzup> I think the first thing we have to fix is having multiple PAs
<Wizzup> I suspect there is something with the pa auto start and session
<Wizzup> in any case I think I'm ready to reboot, I have twinkle in cli mode starting now
<arno11> ok
<Wizzup> finishing some unrelated upgrade just in case
<tmlind_> Wizzup: yup you got it, xt910 is likely never going to work because of the qmi over spi modem, bionic xt875 does not have this problem. heh 2g is still better than 0g :)
<Wizzup> tmlind_: is this a kernel driver problem or just in general a lot of work that would have to be done for qmi?
<Wizzup> tmlind_: yeah it is better than 0g ;)
<tmlind_> unless you're an astronaut
<Wizzup> hehe
<Wizzup> well, still, xt910 and xt912 support, even without spi modem is still good
<Wizzup> btw, I don't know if others see this problem, but for me the leste devices still show usbnet on usb plug, but they don't seem to set an ip on their own interface
<tmlind_> no idea but fyi i'm still stuck with xyboard lcd.. drivers load, i can write back android values from userspace over i2c, no picture, just continuous dsi errors still
<tmlind_> dsi errors on the bridge side, the error count is constantly changing. i guess i should verify this is not happening on adroid
<Wizzup> mhm, that would make sense
<Wizzup> and the general setup (vals of regs) is the same as in android otherwise?
* Wizzup hoping :)
<tmlind_> yeah i can set whatever reg values, this with the patched up tc358775 driver to also support tc358765
<tmlind_> the registers are the same, clock speeds are a bit different, tc358775 has an extra pin for standby mode while tc358765 does not have it
<Wizzup> hmm
<tmlind_> afaik the dsi1 lines are not muxable so no idea why the dsi signals would be all messed up
<tmlind_> i guess i should just clean up and push out some non-functional hacks branch to github soonish
<tmlind_> might be several days before i get around to it again though
<Wizzup> *nod*
<Wizzup> yeah that would be useful
<Wizzup> arno11: ok booted :p
<arno11> cool
<Wizzup> so I just call some other sip number?
<arno11> yes it should work
<Wizzup> ok
<Wizzup> let me see if I can get another one up :)
<tmlind_> Wizzup: if you happen to need 3g voice on bionic xt875, grep the irc logs for tcmdrw, i posted two writes for that to work
<Wizzup> tmlind_: check, I think it might even be on the wiki somewhere
<arno11> Wizzup: should be really interesting to call your d4 with your n900 (and check differencies in htop)
<Wizzup> I am going to use fremantle first
<Wizzup> but you're right that is a good idea too..
<Wizzup> I could do that
<arno11> to compare PA daemons and states
<arno11> ;)
<tmlind_> hmm strange, uptime now over 38 days on d4 with the same old patched up 6.1.0-rc6 kernel. no idea what i might be doing different now compared to earlier..
<Wizzup> arno11: hm it says contact offline on fremantle, maybe I am not using the command line twinke correctly
<Wizzup> tmlind_: heh
<tmlind_> no spi errors to be seen, or whatever ends up causing the reboot eventually
<Wizzup> arno11: trying presence -b online
<arno11> and check if you are using tcp or udp
<arno11> prefer tcp on both devices
<Wizzup> where do I check this?
<Wizzup> ok, twinkle to twinke worked
<Wizzup> now to check audio routing
<Wizzup> still just one pulse...
<arno11> just one pulse in fremantle or d4 ?
<arno11> or both lol
<Wizzup> n900
<Wizzup> but I don't think I get any audio at all yet
<arno11> ok so that's normal
<Wizzup> when you say that you see multiple pulseaudios, do you check htop or something else
<arno11> just htop
<Wizzup> ok, so that mystery is solved
<Wizzup> you're just seeing threads
<Wizzup> not different processes
<arno11> when audio sync is ok
<sicelo> why tcp?
<Wizzup> 20:19 < arno11> ok so that's normal
<Wizzup> what do I do to get that to work?
<arno11> sicelo: it only works with tcp, no idea why
<Wizzup> arno11: btw for input devices on n900 it says 'internal speaker', should this be named differently?
<Wizzup> in pavucontrol
<Wizzup> maybe internal microphone?
<arno11> Wizzup: no it's ok thx to ucm
<Wizzup> I just mean the name is weird
<Wizzup> 'speaker' for 'microphone'
<Wizzup> but nevermind that for now
<arno11> just 1 min
<Wizzup> sure
<Wizzup> btw when I am doing a sip call, cpu usage is 100%, but it's all pa and twinkle, not Xog
<Wizzup> (and I'm not overclocked like you are I think)
<arno11> indeed it's weird in pavucontrol but when call is starting microphone appears in 'recording'
<arno11> yes i forgot overclock
<arno11> anyway to see PA weird stuff, audio sink/source must be synchronised
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<Wizzup> can you clarify a bit on what I need to do to get there?
<Wizzup> should I OC first?
<arno11> it should work with no overclock
<Wizzup> ok
<Wizzup> so how do I get these synchronised, and how do I check if they are synchronised?
<Wizzup> and what is the exact weird stuff?
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<Wizzup> but, maybe you could clarify that for you, when you do 'ps xua | grep pulse'
<Wizzup> that you only see one process, not three
<arno11> ok let me try
<Wizzup> wiki*
<arno11> Wizzup: i see 2 process, one pulse (the system one) and another one (user)
<Wizzup> I don't see that
<Wizzup> how do you run twinkle?
<arno11> twinkle-console but anyway that's the same with cmtspeech for example
<Wizzup> do you login over ssh, or?
<arno11> nope
<Wizzup> and does the user pa exist always, or just during call?
<Wizzup> ok, I logged in as root over ssh, and then did 'su - user', and then ran twinkle there
<Wizzup> and you also stull have this, right:
<Wizzup> autospawn=yes
<Wizzup> # cat /run/pulseaudio-enable-autospawn
<Wizzup> (even though we probably don't want that.)
<Wizzup> (I also have that still here)
<arno11> no still autospawn=no
<Wizzup> ok, so you edited /etc/init.d/pulseaudio-enable-autospawn ?
<arno11> yes iirc
<Wizzup> ok
<arno11> or maybe in client.conf but anyway autospawn is locked
<Wizzup> and the uesr PA, it runs only during the call?
<arno11> wait
<arno11> let me compare to htop
<Wizzup> if you press 'H' while having htop open, it won't show you threads anymore
<Wizzup> PA uses very little cpu on the droid4, btw, compared to on the n900
<Wizzup> I guess for my SIP audio not working I probably need to set up a STUN server
<Wizzup> arno11: so you set sip_transport to tcp?
<arno11> sorry man, too much questions at the same time lol
<tmlind_> Wizzup: ok thanks
<arno11> so yes for tcp, yes for stun server
<arno11> and for PA process, it still unclear.
<arno11> btw it is not normal you have 100% cpu with no sound
<arno11> usually it's arround 20 in this case
<Wizzup> ok
<Wizzup> I need to hop on a work call atm, but I will be back a bit later
<Wizzup> arno11: I wonder if we should make sure our setup/config is the same
<arno11> i have to go (kids) back in one hour i think too
<arno11> yes we have to check config to avoid bias
<Wizzup> ok
<Wizzup> I can flash a new image to a new microsd that I have here
<arno11> ok
<Wizzup> can you do the same, or?
<Wizzup> don't override your existing stuff
<arno11> i think i can't do that lol
<arno11> i've to go
<Wizzup> ok
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<arno11> back. ok so (reading your messages again) i think the problem to get audio is your twinkle config in N900 (otherwise if you are up to date the only diff with my config could be only daemon.conf)
<arno11> twinkle config file must be in /home/user/.twinkle/twinkle.cfg
<arno11> check your outbound proxy and sip_transport=tcp
<arno11> Wizzup: maybe stun server is necessary but really depending of provider and isp. (for me it works with or without)
<arno11> maybe you can test messages between the 2 devices first ?
<Wizzup> back
<Wizzup> arno11: so I think it's best to ensure that we really have the same config
<Wizzup> because I don't see this second PA server that you mentioned
<Wizzup> I am not sure how to best do this though
<Wizzup> other than flash a new microsd and work from there
<arno11> ok makes sense
<Wizzup> but I agree it's cumbersome to do that :D
<arno11> yep but pragmatically, no other choice
<arno11> i need to find my only empty sdcard
<arno11> back in a bit
<Wizzup> just don't overwrite anything important :D
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<arno11> lol indeed. sdcard found and last img downloaded
<arno11> burning img now
<Wizzup> link to img? I'll do the same then
<Wizzup> just to make sure we both have the same/latest
<arno11> ok i used the last one from 06/18
<arno11> hope it is not broken
<Wizzup> :)
<arno11> need to switch irc device, back in a bit
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<arno11> back
<Wizzup> ohi
<arno11> yes
<maxwelld> switched back to 16gb adata card.
<maxwelld> apparently adata works much faster and much more reliable than this supposed to be sandisk.
* maxwelld need to eventually package songrec.
* maxwelld also needs to update lagrange package.
<arno11> Wizzup: trying to boot
<arno11> ok seems to work
<arno11> ok be careful, no swap on first boot
<Wizzup> ok, let's try to keep a log of changes made
<Wizzup> I guess the first thing to do is to add -devel
<Wizzup> and upgrade
<Wizzup> brb
<arno11> need to activate swap first to avoid OOM during update
<Wizzup> ok
<arno11> ok swapon /dev/mmcblk1p3 works on the fly lol
<Wizzup> yeah
<arno11> woo the new img seems to work really well no troubles during first boot
<Wizzup> btw
<Wizzup> -devel has the change to add swap
<Wizzup> and I am syning it now
<Wizzup> so next image will have swap
<arno11> ok nice
<Wizzup> please keep a log of changes made btw :)
<arno11> no probs
<arno11> -devel added
<arno11> arghh automatic apt-worker is to much for n900
<arno11> if you can disable it in next img...should be useful
<Wizzup> hm, isn't this a maemo thing?
<arno11> oh maybe
<arno11> dist-upgrading
<arno11> (i will edit daemon.conf before rebooting)
<arno11> really good work guys, the last img is really impressive for me
<arno11> and with auto swap in the next one, no probs for users i think
<Wizzup> please share the exact changes here, better to just be verbose :D
<arno11> the daemon.conf ones ?
<Wizzup> I mean maybe just everything, so:
<Wizzup> - new image dd
<Wizzup> - enable swap
<Wizzup> - add -devel to sources.list
<Wizzup> - apt dist-upgrade
<Wizzup> - change daemon.conf (add foo, bar)
<Wizzup> - reboot
<Wizzup> like that or something :)
<arno11> ah ok
<Wizzup> the goal is to have the exact same setup, otherwise it'll be in vain :D
<arno11> ok :)
<arno11> so after after the first boot, run /etc/expandcard.sh first
<arno11> then activate swap with swapon /dev/mmcblk1p3
<arno11> then add -devel in /etc/apt/sources.list
<arno11> then adjust the clock lol
<arno11> apt update
<arno11> apt dist-upgrade
<arno11> before rebooting, we need to modify /etc/pulse/daemon.conf
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<Wizzup> ok
<arno11> iirc: resampling-method = trivial, alternate-sample-rate = 4000
<arno11> i think it's enough for voip/sip calls
<Wizzup> ok
<Wizzup> do we need to set the resampling method?
<Wizzup> like, what is the default?
<arno11> the default is speex-float-1 but it is too much for sip
<arno11> (for the n900)
<arno11> trivial is a bit bad but works
<Wizzup> too much as in the cpu can't handle it?
<arno11> yes kind of
<Wizzup> because with default settings on d4 PA uses 'only' 5%
<Wizzup> granted I didn't actually hear audio but I think it was doing something
<arno11> yes but with 2 cores
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<arno11> don't forget that when call is starting and then sink/source are synchronised (working sound in both ways) cpu cons increase a lot
<arno11> (dist-upgrade is a bit long, not sure i will have time to test twinkle this night)
<Wizzup> mhm
<Wizzup> I will do the same steps on the other sd card, and then focus on the news post
<arno11> ok
<arno11> ah upgrade almost done
<Wizzup> btw, with latest -devel openmediaplayer should work with radio streams :p
<arno11> yes cool :)
<Wizzup> (internet radio)
<arno11> otherwise it works with audacious btw
<Wizzup> :)
<Wizzup> I think maybe one of the next blog posts we could have some users describe how they use M-L
<Wizzup> we seem to all have different ways/programs
<arno11> yes indeed
<arno11> depending of our different linux xp
<arno11> and preferences
<arno11> arghhh i know why upgrade is so long, i use a slow class 1 sdcard...)
<Wizzup> I've been searching for my usb microsd adapter, but can't find it, so I will use my laptop internal slot
<arno11> i did the same
<arno11> rebooting
<arno11> ok so just one more step: installing and configuring twinkle
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<arno11> note: twinkle config file must be /home/user/.twinkle/twinkle.cfg (if the name is different it doesn't work)
<Wizzup> I think you can do twinkle -c -f myname and then it loads /home/user/.twinkle/myname.cfg
<Wizzup> right?
<arno11> yes but must be rename
<arno11> to twinkle.cfg
<Wizzup> oh?
<arno11> yes
<Wizzup> not sure I follow, but ok
<Wizzup> as in I think it worked for me
<arno11> ok not for me lol
<arno11> so to be sure better using twinkle.cfg i think
<arno11> in cfg file, auth_aka_op and auth_aka_amf must be empty
<arno11> outbound proxy must be set
<arno11> sip_transport=tcp
<arno11> stun_server (depending of provider and isp)
<arno11> enable_nat_keepalive=yes (for me, not sure for you)
<arno11> that's all
<arno11> connection ok for me
<arno11> trying message
<Wizzup> I am not sure if I set outbound proxy, didn't know that was necessary
<arno11> you can try without
<arno11> messages works
<arno11> trying call (but not easy with familly arround...)
<arno11> working very well !!!
<arno11> even inbound calls
<Wizzup> is the cpu usage and pa processes as you expect?
<arno11> yes 3 PA and 95% CPU
<arno11> no disk sleep
<Wizzup> 3 threads, yeah?
<arno11> yes
<Wizzup> so no PA that runs as 'uesr'
<Wizzup> 'user' *
<arno11> but 2 processes
<Wizzup> argh :D how
<arno11> one pulse and one user
<arno11> don't know
<arno11> anyway sip is working very well and that's the most important thing :)
<Wizzup> that's super sweet
<arno11> both messages and calls with very few tweaks
<arno11> i have to go man, time to sleep
<Wizzup> good night
<Wizzup> I will try to reproduce this
<arno11> ok :) good night
<arno11> oups not for you lol
<Wizzup> :D
<Wizzup> not yet anyway
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