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<uvos__> so xorg cpu usage is probubly some x client makeing x do work rather than x doing something by itself
<uvos__> for instance if the volume applet where to constantly be getting pa events
<uvos__> this might cause it to constantly wake up and query some xatom or something like that
<uvos__> so it would make sense to xtrace all pa clients you have
<uvos__> se if someone is constantly calling xgetprop or something
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<arno11> uvos: thx
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<Wizzup> uvos__: yeah I was thinking also it could be volume applet
<Wizzup> uvos__: in any case if we have 4 PA servers we have other problems
<uvos__> idealy we should not use system pa at all
<uvos__> we now have elogind session
<uvos__> so session pa should work
<uvos__> should save some non trival amount of ram for n900 too, when no one is playing sound
<Wizzup> in any case I am not sure if this is the problem
<uvos__> no
<uvos__> you have other issues
<uvos__> but just going for the session pa setup might make sense
<uvos__> vs figureing out why system pa is being launched multiple times
<Wizzup> I don't think the system one is launched multiple times
<Wizzup> it seems to me like cmt_pulse or whatever it is just launches its own
<Wizzup> which probably just means the env is not correct?
<Wizzup> not sure, I would have to check
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<Wizzup> uvos__: do you know, how can we know if all regular modules are loaded
<Wizzup> maybe some udev trigger
<Wizzup> or some udev init script that finishes
<Wizzup> the idea being that we need to load nokia-modem as last module
<Wizzup> arno11: is pa still set to do this autospawn thing on your device?
<arno11> autospawn is deactivated
<arno11> no change with pa cpu if activated
<arno11> btw when i kill one of these weird pa daemons i get specific errors from cmtspeech
<arno11> like pa_get_latency error, sink error, so it seems cmtspeech is creating its own daemons for specific tasks
<Wizzup> do you know why it would do that? or where the code is that does this?
<arno11> i think it's because cmt_pulse has been split into 3 different progs and each ones are using different PA api commands
<arno11> my idea is to create a new prog with all code in the same file
<arno11> like it was before the split.
<Wizzup> hmmmm
<Wizzup> do you know where the code is that doe sit?
<Wizzup> also probably a good idea to ask pavel
<Wizzup> and it could indeed be the volume applet or some other maemo program that acts on the presence of other PA daemons that causes xorg cpu usage
<arno11> really not sure
<arno11> yes for Pavel
<arno11> at the beginning cmtspeech_ofono_test was the main app
<arno11> and then Pavel split it to different files
<arno11> to be ale to easely switch between alsa, dsp and pulse
<Wizzup> hmm
<arno11> *able
<arno11> according to gh cmtspeech history
<arno11> and if i understand correctly lol
<Wizzup> mhm
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<arno11> that's a lot of mhm, hmm and mmmhmmm :D
<bencoh> mhm!
<uvos__> as long as its not mhh
<Wizzup> arno11: heh
<Wizzup> arno11: well I think what I need to do is power up my n900 tonight and see if I can reproduce what you have
<Wizzup> and then see if I can see what's happening with all the pulse servers
<Wizzup> or maybe the x11 cpu usage first
<arno11> ok, should be easy to reproduce
<arno11> thx for your help
<arno11> if you just build calls-test-2 branch and set alternate-sample-rate to 4000 in daemon.conf, it should be enough to reproduce
<Wizzup> ok
<Wizzup> last time I didn't really know who to call :D
<arno11> lol not easy to test indeed
<bencoh> I usually call my "real" day-to-day cellphone
<Wizzup> yeah but for testing whether there is echo cancellation and not that's painful/difficult
<Wizzup> but I also have done that
<bencoh> oh, that. yeah
<Wizzup> I would also call my landline and pick up using sip, but at some point I worried the neighbours might hear it and get annoyed
<Wizzup> (since I forgot to disconnect the old actual phone)
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