05:15 <maemish_> If some of you have knowledge: just managed to get to one guy unused N950 in perfect condition with 350€. He has flashed N9s a lot and guides other people and tried to make sure he does everything right when he upgrades the firmware but something went wrong and emmc seems dead. He first used official oneclickflasher and tried to upgrade to PR 1.2 but something went wrong. Then he tried manually, cold flash, etc. without

05:15 <maemish_> success, then PR 1.3 and now I think it is stuck on boot to Nokia logo. He head dreamed of the device and he took quite hard this. He has wrote to TMO about it, so don't write anything here. Just wanted people to know, if by chance someone would have special skills with emmc etc.

05:32 <sicelo> ah, you facilitated that :-)

05:39 <Wizzup> maemish_: oh, that is very cool

05:39 <Wizzup> we still lack them for our development too

07:26 <sicelo> Wizzup: regarding your email to pavel ... he had videos showcasing the calls. it was linux 4.12.0 at that time

07:26 <Wizzup> let's hope we have something more recent

07:27 <sicelo> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEXOuOfxjVc

08:11 <arno11> Wizzup: i just hava a look on emails: seems the problem is our setup because we have exactly the same issue -3 PA daemons- using a basic loopback arecord/aplay. So the problem is probably not cmtspeech

08:12 <Wizzup> ok

08:12 <arno11> and when i try a loopback on my ubuntu laptop, no issue

08:12 <arno11> in user mode

08:13 <Wizzup> ok

08:18 <arno11> and the high cpu usage seems directly linked to low latency because during a basic loopback the default latency is arround 2 sec and cpu usage is low.

08:19 <arno11> *1 sec

08:33 <Wizzup> ok, in that case I maybe need to let pavel know

15:01 <arno11> Wizzup: yes, probably better

15:07 <Wizzup> arno11: so how did you test this

15:07 <Wizzup> arno11: I think it might be worth checking it on the droid4 too, or the vm

15:09 <arno11> i did this using cat /proc/

15:10 <arno11> yes good idea to test on droid or vm

15:11 <arno11> * i used htop to find pulse PID's and cat /proc/ to get details

15:12 <arno11> during calls

15:16 <Wizzup> 17:09 < arno11> i did this using cat /proc/

15:16 <Wizzup> iirc you said some alsa loop

15:20 <arno11> yes i first did test with calls and then test with loopback

15:21 <arno11> to compare

15:27 <arno11> sorry maybe that's unclear

15:28 <arno11> i'll send you an email with the process

16:03 <arno11> Wizzup: email sent

16:04 <Wizzup> - start audacious with a basic mp3 files to check differencies. Result: still the main pulse PID + a new one.

16:04 <Wizzup> that already seems like a problem

16:05 <Wizzup> Okay, I'm really going to try to make some time tonight with my n900

16:14 <arno11> ok

16:17 <arno11> should be interesting to test on droid too

22:14 <Wizzup> arno11: sorry, will have to test another day