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<freemangordon> Wizzup: Either driver issue or kernel (cache) issue
<freemangordon> in both cases not much I can do about it
<freemangordon> maybe send a mail to AD on pvr ML
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<Wizzup> freemangordon: mhm
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<arno11> Wizzup: i made a PR with new changes into libcmtspeechdata (in calls-test-2 branch because it is already quite similar to my config)
<Wizzup> ty!
<arno11> :)
<Wizzup> I see the email to pavel too
<arno11> ah ok
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<arno11> Wizzup: sicelo: i made some progress with PA cpu usage
<arno11> the cpu usage is still very high but sound desync decreases a lot if other apps are running
<arno11> the trick is to disable high priority and realtime-scheduling in daemon.conf
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<rafael2k> hey, is maemo-lest using the alsa-plugin maemo to talk to the DSP in the N900?
<rafael2k> I kind of need urgently write an alsa plugin, and bumped in the maemo plugin for alsa
<rafael2k> neat
<arno11> hi, dsp is not working iirc
<Wizzup> arno11: interesting that disabling it helps
<arno11> yes and the other interesting thing is that xorg burns 65% cpu when i use cmt_alsa for calls !
<arno11> instead of cmt_pulse
<arno11> and only with sound in one way
<Wizzup> I really don't understand what X has to do with sound at all
<arno11> mee too !
<arno11> i found nothing about that issue on internet
<arno11> just one thing: alsa looking for wrong sound card per default
<Wizzup> alsa_cmt or something else?
<arno11> sorry don't understand
<Wizzup> when you say alsa is looking at the wrong card per default, it's this dictated by ucm?
<arno11> sorry misunderstanding. i was talking about a possible reason found on the net
<Wizzup> reason for what, X usage?
<Wizzup> or one way sound?
<arno11> for high cpu usage for both PA and xorg
<Wizzup> hmm
<arno11> but seems not possible with leste i think because asound shows only one card
<arno11> 0 snd_soc_rx51
<arno11> and nothing else
<Wizzup> yeah
<Wizzup> no, that's not likely it. I would check the Xorg log files, or maybe figure out how we can profile it
<Wizzup> or attach with gdb, but eh...
<Wizzup> can I test this without actually calling?
<arno11> hm not sure
<arno11> maybe using pa_test
<arno11> let me check
<sicelo> maybe it just seems to be X, but could be dbus? wild shot, but who knows ...
<arno11> ah ok
<sicelo> it's just a guess ... don't take me too seriously on this one :-)
<sicelo> but i'll be 'happy' to be correct, heh
<arno11> ok lol
<Wizzup> sicelo: it might be some interaction for sure yes
<Wizzup> like something repeatedly trying to do some action
<arno11> so weird: no troubles using pa_test
<Wizzup> what does pa test do differently
<arno11> excepting dbus and ofono links, nothing
<arno11> ah sorry i think i'm wrong
<arno11> let me check in cmt
<Wizzup> it might be worth checking dbus-monitor and dbus-monitor --system
<Wizzup> see if it is super spammy
<Wizzup> or maybe strace Xorg, see if it tries to do some system calls repeatedly that fail with say permission error
<arno11> ok
<Wizzup> I can try to reproduce it on my n900, have to do some work first though
<arno11> ok. i found the huge difference between pa_test and cmt
<arno11> pa_test uses only one PA daemon instead of 3-4 for cmt_pulse or cmt_alsa
<Wizzup> I still can't believe we ever need more than one PA
<Wizzup> this is something I really don't get
<Wizzup> everything should go through one PA
<Wizzup> why are multiple servers started?
<arno11> because cmt_pulse is split in 4 different files/progs
<Wizzup> ok, but those can just be four separate pulse clients?
<Wizzup> talking to the same server, right?
<arno11> not sure, htop shows 4 different daemons. for me it is 4 different servers
<Wizzup> ok, that's very likely a problem regardless of X
<Wizzup> this might also be why you see that removing realtime helps
<Wizzup> if they all want to be realtime...
<arno11> makes sense
<Wizzup> but, if the server is running, another one should never be spawned
<Wizzup> is this some env difference or something
<Wizzup> I'm really confused :D
<arno11> me too
<sicelo> we may have to also look at cgroups ... at least fremantle used cgroups heavily for call handling
<arno11> maybe we can ask Pavel why he has split cmtspeech_ofono_test...
<arno11> because it was just one prog at the beginning
<arno11> iirc
<Wizzup> cgroups exist on fremantle?
<Wizzup> I didn't know it did back in 2009 / 2.6 era
<rafael2k> interesting to read
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<sicelo> yes cgroup support was already there in fremantle. see the bootlog here, https://wiki.maemo.org/N900_Hardware_Hacking/serial_dump
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