<freemangordon>
uvos: keep in mind smplayer uses its own stylesheet
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<freemangordon>
if you choose maemo5 style from options it looks ok to me
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<uvos__>
freemangordon: right @smplayer i tripped over that, its fine
<Wizzup>
where is this option?
<uvos__>
Wizzup: options->settings->interface
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<freemangordon>
we have an issue with filechooser, it is not native. I am on it
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<norayr>
freemangordon: i tried, but i got no vibration on notifications. i am updating again.
<norayr>
to try.
<norayr>
btw i did something with my terminal and it now shows very smaaaallll letters.
<norayr>
i think i was able to increase decrease fonts but now i cannot figure out how i did that in past.
<Wizzup>
volume butons?
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<uvos__>
norayr: device?
<uvos__>
what sceanrio dose it not vibrate? you have vibration enabeld in the profile right?
<norayr>
uvos__: d4
<norayr>
yes, it vibrates when i receive mails.
<norayr>
i was asking fmg to make it vibrate when i get notifications from dino.
<norayr>
because i miss what my friends write me when i walk.
<norayr>
even when i look at the phone every 10 minutes.
<norayr>
though it is very exhausting i try to do that.
<norayr>
but then it happens that i looked not every ten minutes, but every 20-30
<norayr>
and i miss what they write. that is a big problem for me.
<norayr>
and since dino already sends notifs via libnotify, and maemo shows those.
<norayr>
i asked fmg if he can do something about it, so that other programs, that send notifs via libnotify
<norayr>
would vibrate.
<norayr>
very short. he said in the beginning that it doesn't correspond to freedesktop.org spec, but well, i need to get notifs from regular linux apps.
<norayr>
so he said to test it after some time, but i tested and dino doesn't cause vibration again.
<norayr>
uvos__: i have something to tell you. i discovered an Xfree function that
<norayr>
adds a key to the current layout.
<uvos__>
i know of this function
<norayr>
that can solve our keyboard problem, maybe with just one function call.
<uvos__>
but thank you
<norayr>
oh you read what i wrote?
<norayr>
do you think it can help? when the key is pressed, the function would add that key to the current layout?
<uvos__>
no i mean this function was not news to me, but thank you anyhow.
<norayr>
i found it from svkbd source.
<uvos__>
this corrispondes to the solution of generateing a keymap on the fly
<norayr>
yes, instead of doing setxkbmap every time.
<uvos__>
sure
<uvos__>
but you still cause a lot of wakeups
<uvos__>
because all of the applications need to get the new sybol translation table
<uvos__>
so you dont want to do this all the tie
<uvos__>
*time
<uvos__>
svkbd is a good hint
<uvos__>
ill look at what they do, essentally you would have to have some region reserved for him
<uvos__>
and then place the next x chars you need there
<norayr>
well if that solven a kbd issue, i want. because currently our keyboard without english is only useful with maemo apps or if one knows they need to do setxkbmap by hand.
<uvos__>
and then send the codes and change it to the next x keys
<uvos__>
to avoid wakeing up all x clients on eatch key input
<norayr>
but even that is a problem because when i do setxkbmap by hand, some symbols from armenian keyboard layout, let's say the hyphen don't work.
<uvos__>
so anyhow, yeah you can do this
<uvos__>
but it needs some tought
<norayr>
before i discovered the func i was thinking to create a map - maemo layout - xkbmap
<uvos__>
that imo also makes sense
<norayr>
and do setxkb by program when the layout is switched.
<norayr>
but
<uvos__>
since its the best solution power wise
<uvos__>
updateing the syboml table is very expensive
<uvos__>
*symbol
<norayr>
then as i say, if i do setxkbmap, symbols from latin, that i use in armenian layout, don't show.
<norayr>
so i need to do setxkbmap us.
<norayr>
so svkbd's approach i really like.
<norayr>
i discovered it because when i created armenian layout for svkbd, which i use on sxmo/pinephone
<uvos__>
well you could have a layout for each supported langugage x eatch device with hwkbd + ibm pc layout
<uvos__>
you have 251 keycodes available
<norayr>
it had a problem, and i looked in to sources, and found that function, and i have another patch which i need to send them, maybe today i will send.
<uvos__>
this is sufficant for 2 languages
<uvos__>
this is the "best" soluton
<uvos__>
but requires one to create a bunch of maps
<uvos__>
(you can automate this ofc=
<uvos__>
)
<norayr>
hmmmm...
<norayr>
okay, i might do that.
<norayr>
so i found that func in svkbd, they do it, and it works. and i thought that might be best solution.
<uvos__>
it works
<norayr>
but if u really think the best is to have maps i may try to generate maps.
<uvos__>
its realitvely low effort
<norayr>
yes.
<uvos__>
idk if its the best way
<uvos__>
this is why i say it needs some tought
<norayr>
but for now it would solve the problem.
<norayr>
and later we can think of replacing that.
<norayr>
just it is a torture to write in any non-english layout currently. and most of the users don't even know they need to do setxkbmap.
<norayr>
plus if one don't have hw kbd, it is harder to do setxkbmap. with hwkbd u always have latin to type the command.
<norayr>
but on pinephone it is not the case.
<norayr>
thank you for discussing it.
<norayr>
sorry what was the way to increase font size in terminal?
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<norayr>
freemangordon: i just checked dino again, it receives the message, shows maemo notification, in separate window, but does not vibrate.
<norayr>
folks something happened. not latest version of photolightmeter is in repos.
<norayr>
it is 1.9.8-m7, but that is very old. it should be 2.0.0.1-leste1+2m7
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<norayr>
oh i did something wrong when i was making chimaera build.
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<buZz>
eh huh
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<buZz>
my d4 was on usb power all night
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<buZz>
yet, battery percentage is absent? :O
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<buZz>
prior i even saw '100% battery' in /sys , while battery voltage was 3.9V :/
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<buZz>
powercycling now to see if that fixes it
<norayr>
rebuilt photolightmeter with normal recent changes.
<norayr>
yes, terminal font is controlled by volume up/down keys.
<norayr>
so how is leste on n900? i have a dev friend, i have n900, i want to give him that n900 as a present, though the blood will pour from my heart. (:
<norayr>
in hope that he will contribute.
<norayr>
i had another n900, i gave it to other dev friend, and he looked so excited, but didn't do anything. :/ didn't even install leste. :/
<norayr>
so pity.
<norayr>
this friend doesn't have any enthusiasm about mobile linuxes or phones at all, and has no phone.
<norayr>
and he lives in other city and other country. i am thinking to send him other n900. :/
<norayr>
the HAM shows the new version
<norayr>
ok i hope the users will get the update.
<buZz>
norayr: ask the n900 back from the first user
<buZz>
:)
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<buZz>
weird, i dont believe my phone now ever gets to 'Fully Charged' :O
<buZz>
its charging at 10mA now
<Wizzup>
battery unhappy/dead?
<buZz>
battery seems totally fine
<buZz>
4.28V now down from 4.31 , while still charging
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<bencoh>
uh, voltage doing down while charging doesn't sound normal
<bencoh>
going*
<buZz>
bencoh: pretty normal while we dont switch to USB power
<buZz>
the phone isnt powered by USB while charging, or at least, not exclusively
<buZz>
while the hw -can- do that
<bencoh>
oh right
<buZz>
already back at 4.3v now , it keeps going up&down, but never reaching 'fully charged'
<buZz>
so no percentage displayed :(
<buZz>
i -thought- this was all happening in kernel?
<buZz>
so i dont really understand what/why this is happening
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<Wizzup>
what makes you tink it is not happening in kernel
<buZz>
Wizzup: i expect to get 'fully charged' and see a percentage in /sys/class/powersupply/battery/uevent
<buZz>
i mean, this works fine, there's just no percentage shown
<buZz>
its been on charger all night, and most of today, but never reached charged
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<freemangordon>
norayr: did you reboot after upgrade?
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<arno11>
Wizzup: n900 voice call news: now my patch is working with states at the right time with no external troubles. Only one bug remaining: if it takes too long to answer a call a weird latency happened during few seconds.
<arno11>
and i think it is because of the ringtone running at 44100hz.
<arno11>
to be sure i will test a 4000hz ringtone to avoid 2 different rates at the same time.
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<Wizzup>
arno11: great progress!
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<uvos>
why would voice and the rinnger ever be active at the same time?
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<arno11>
uvos: good question. in fact record and play are not starting exactly when you answer the call
<arno11>
and anyway 3 pulseaudio process are running at the same time
<arno11>
cmtspeech is really tricky...
<arno11>
per default record starts when the phone starts ringing
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<Wizzup>
arno11: 3 PA servers?
<arno11>
yes probably
<Wizzup>
that seems really wrong to me
<Wizzup>
you sure?
<arno11>
not 100 percent sure
<arno11>
but 80 lol
<arno11>
i just doublechecked: 3 server daemons
<Wizzup>
are they just threads of the same server?
<arno11>
probably one for general stuff. one for record/play. and one for buffer/dynamic latency ?
<arno11>
htop shows 3 different daemons
<Wizzup>
dinner time
<Wizzup>
I can check on my n900 in a bit
<arno11>
ok enjoy
<Wizzup>
how's latency looking?
<arno11>
latency is fine but tricky: PA constently try to balance I/O latency
<arno11>
for example if incoming and outgoing latency are both 200ms that's sound like zero ms
<arno11>
the diff is the real latency
<arno11>
so sometimes when local latency is 20ms and incoming is 40 the result is not better
<arno11>
so i think the most important thing is I/O latency stability
<arno11>
uvos: freemangordon: Wizzup: sicelo: for me the main concern is why Xorg burns 35-40% cpu during calls (and 5 without...)
<Wizzup>
yeah, that's weird for sure
<arno11>
yep
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<uvos>
is any non-obivous x client also using a lot of cpu in call?
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<norayr>
freemangordon: yes, today i did. and no result. :/
<norayr>
last time i also did.
<norayr>
buZz: yeah right?
<arno11>
uvos: apparently not
<buZz>
norayr: whats right?
<norayr>
right to ask him to return n900.
<norayr>
but it is very hard for me...
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