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<norayr> i think on chimaera my live wallpaper (my?) behaves differently. something is broken on chimaera.
<norayr> the tram does not appear as often as it did before.
<norayr> sometimes it doesn't understand that it is an evening and it needs to change the wallpaper.
<norayr> hmmm.
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<Wizzup> btw, it looks like the upower history set to higher than 7 days makes it use a lot of ram
<Wizzup> like 6% on my d4
<Wizzup> I guess we'll have to drop it
<Wizzup> idk why upower needs to keep it all in memory though
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<bencoh> is that RSS or just file-backed mmap()?
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<Wizzup> bencoh: well it shows up as regular mem in htop, I'd have to check
<bencoh> it's probably real memory then
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<dsc_> becomes
<dsc_> the buttons and the combobox do not have borders, looks a bit strange
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<freemangordon> dsc_: thats' weird
<freemangordon> do you start that from ssh session?
<dsc_> oh, I might have, sec
<freemangordon> if yes, try to 'export DISPLAY=:0'
<freemangordon> no, I mean: how do you start that application?
<freemangordon> as it seems it cannot connect to sapwood server
<dsc_> ah
<dsc_> im trying via VNC ;))
<freemangordon> ah
<dsc_> because my QEMU is broken
<freemangordon> won't work :)
<dsc_> but thats probably the reason
<dsc_> alright
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<Wizzup> yeah the styling is done by another process (sapwood)
<dsc_> this explains all the sapwood related errors ;)
<dsc_> Wizzup: FYI with sapwood working the completer still does not sow up
<Wizzup> right
<dsc_> maybe feature request somewhere
<dsc_> what repo
<dsc_> ?
<Wizzup> on n900 fremantle this works by just showing the first text autocompleted / coloured differently
<Wizzup> I don't know how these dialogs are supposed to show
<dsc_> ah ok
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<uvos> theres a bug here tho
<uvos> or at least there was, sapwood fails to understand that :0 and :0.0 are the same xserver
<uvos> theaming fails if its not exactly the same string as sapwood itself was lauched with
<dsc_> my workflow is an IDE on host computer, then compile/debug/run on the remote (via the IDE)
<dsc_> this happens via SSH
<dsc_> so all the themeing stuff breaks
<dsc_> which comes down to
<dsc_> run the program normally once, dump its environment to a file
<dsc_> then reconstruct that exact environment on every run (via IDE+SSH)
<dsc_> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<freemangordon> uvos: the problem is that it names the socket after the $DISPLAY variable
<freemangordon> dsc_: you just need to export DISPLAY=:0
<freemangordon> uvos: so yeah, the bug is still there
<dsc_> freemangordon: IIRC I did try that initially but then its not just themeing, its also dbus that had issues
<dsc_> which is probably related to authentication/permissions, not sure
<freemangordon> you need to run it with run-standalone.sh
<freemangordon> and with user 'user'
<dsc_> thanks ill try it
<dsc_> not sure how `run-standalone.sh` integrates with the IDE's remote debugging functionality, i.e: not sure if there is something lke "run this script before, in the same shell, then run gdb <program>"
<dsc_> maybe I can invoke `run-standalone.sh` at runtime, before constructing Qt, then adopt its environment
<freemangordon> don't know, sorry
<freemangordon> but for debugging you don;t really need nice UI, no?
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<dsc_> C++ programmers like their applications breakpointable and steppable in their silly IDEs
<dsc_> this hack is suitable for now, all good
<freemangordon> dsc_: I am C *and* C++ programmer ;)
<freemangordon> so I like breakpoints in IDE
<dsc_> i am from the new generation and have never touched a terminal
<dsc_> :D
<freemangordon> the point was that application UI does not need to be nice while debugging
<dsc_> oh, you mean themeing, hmm
<dsc_> sure
<dsc_> but the dbus issue was problematic due to telepathy
<freemangordon> right
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<dsc_> freemangordon: how do you use breakpoints in IDE for leste?
<Wizzup> if you log in over ssh and have program showing in vm, shouldn't it just work?
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<freemangordon> dsc_: I don;t
<freemangordon> I use gdb
<freemangordon> through ssh
<Wizzup> IDEs can attach using gdb though, no?
<dsc_> true
<dsc_> well, attaching an already spawned process via SSH is probably not possible
<dsc_> (from my IDE, that is :P)
<dsc_> text ok?
<buZz> cool, offline translations :)
<dsc_> buZz: doing machine-learning on a CPU from 2007 was .... a challenge :P
<buZz> with tensorlite or something?
<dsc_> the fine folks over at the university of edinburgh did the training of language models using https://marian-nmt.github.io/
<dsc_> getting it to run on droid4's Cortex-A9 was interesting
<buZz> cool :)
<buZz> i assume the models are txt only? no pronounciation?
<dsc_> yes, I did some testing with voice-to-text but it was quite slow
<dsc_> so txt only for now
<buZz> no i mean, text-to-voice
<dsc_> ah
<buZz> like 'how do i pronounce bla in japanese'
<dsc_> i think voice-to-text for just plain english will be hard performance-wiise, let alone pronouncing other languages
<Wizzup> dsc_: sounds good, maybe mention the data debian pkgs as well
<buZz> dsc_: no, text-to-voice :D
<bencoh> dsc_: actually attaching to an existing process over ssh should be do-able even from your IDE
<buZz> maybe just espeak would be plenty, i guess
<bencoh> you'll just have to help it (gdbserver + ssh tunnel)
<dsc_> buZz: sorry I meant text-to-voice, I was doing some experiments recently with tts but didnt try on maemo leste yet
<dsc_> using software I forgot the name of
<buZz> espeak supports >100 languages anyway, and is pretty understandable
<buZz> and pretty low on cpu requirements
<buZz> oh this all reminds me i should make a new SD card for the d4 , see if i get working gprs again :D
<dsc_> buZz: here's the thing I made few months ago: https://tts.kroket.io/
<dsc_> "I made" -> its software by some other people
<dsc_> but these speakers are english or american, getting translation models that work on e.g japanese will be hard
<dsc_> bencoh: dont think CLion supports this
<bencoh> dsc_: it if supports specifying a gdb port to connect to, then it should
<buZz> someone at nurdspace made a HASS voice model based on https://acapela-box.com/AcaBox/index.php (proprietary, dutch , femke) voice
<buZz> so we can run that voice locally now , faster and more private
<dsc_> buZz: why is there some background sound?
<buZz> because they dont want you to steal the voice :P
<buZz> its a 'free demo' site
<dsc_> :D
<buZz> the new model he made is for 'piper'
<dsc_> being able to make models is nice
<buZz> he has a rtx4070 , he also made a stablediffusion modelsomething that 'makes everything buzz' based on a couple photos of me
<buZz> or 4090? not sure
* buZz tries maemo-leste-1.0-armhf-droid4-20230430.img.xz
<dsc_> Wizzup: what kind of text would you like regarding the models? Just a listing of the available models?
<dsc_> or how to install new models?
<dsc_> how does one install new models anyway?
<dsc_> in the package manager?
<dsc_> ill add some default model to the runtime requirements in debian/control...
<Wizzup> dsc_: or just mention what packages people need to install
<dsc_> ill just use this text
<Wizzup> yeah
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<buZz> fresh leste SD fixed my gprs
<buZz> also regained ability to get a battery percentage :P
<buZz> buuut havent enabled -devel yet
<buZz> oh with the 1.0-armhf-droid4-20230430.img.xz , the 'ok button layer' of keyboard isnt working again
<buZz> but maybe i need a reboot
<dsc_> ok button layer?
<buZz> like 'ok' + p = |
<buZz> on droid4 , one of the keys is 'ok'
<buZz> its used for special keys
<dsc_> ah
<dsc_> never noticed :P
<buZz> not something you'd notice
<buZz> unless you tend to hit random buttons :)
<dsc_> it can dismiss popup modals?
<buZz> eh, likely?
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<buZz> was there a fix for 'scummvm isnt in center of screen' i could do on my new install?
<dsc_> xdotool move window? :P
<buZz> ^_^ its not a window but fullscreen
<buZz> i remember there was some libsdl mod to fix it, but dno why i wouldnt already have that with maemo-leste-1.0-armhf-droid4-20230430.img.xz
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